GREEDY COP UNION SUES CITY TO PREVENT...

GREEDY COP UNION SUES CITY TO PREVENT Last and Final Offer

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Greedy Cop Union

Vallejo, CA

#1 Oct 17, 2013
Once again VPOA is doing everything within its power to delay contract ratification with the hope that they can BUY enough City Council Members to get Binding Arbitration on the ballot again.

VPOA is suing the City to return to the bargaining table . They also want FREE Lifetime Health Insurance.

Here is a link

http://ibvallejo.com/index.php...
anon

Santa Clara, CA

#2 Oct 17, 2013
Thank God we got binding arbitration removed.
Greedy Cop Union

Vallejo, CA

#4 Oct 17, 2013
Cops 1 VIB 0 wrote:
Cops 1 VIB 0
Don't count you chickens yet. The Judge may not like your tactics and burn you alive.
Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#5 Oct 17, 2013
The End Of Human Public Safety Is Here Now !!!!!
http://www.bostondynamics.com/robot_petman.ht...

Time for City Council to pass a resolution to fire every VPOA person.
Reagan fired the pilots when they threatened the government.
like

Vallejo, CA

#6 Oct 17, 2013
Anonymous wrote:
The End Of Human Public Safety Is Here Now !!!!!
http://www.bostondynamics.com/robot_petman.ht...
Time for City Council to pass a resolution to fire every VPOA person.
Reagan fired the pilots when they threatened the government.
I'm also ready for us to outsource the Vallejo PD. Would it be possible?
jack of all trades

Vallejo, CA

#7 Oct 17, 2013
The new contract being "offered" is is sh!t.
An insult and the city can shove it up its azz.
Look Closer

Vallejo, CA

#8 Oct 17, 2013
This action seems like they are out to screw themselves by inciting public outrage at Jump Start. Or, is there something else being cooked up here? It's too good to be true for the Gomers, you know what they say about that.
up the shussel

Vallejo, CA

#9 Oct 17, 2013
Just another one of Garmans spins on things. Nothing to see here.
GEE

Alameda, CA

#10 Oct 17, 2013
VPOA asked the court for a declaration that VPOA members and retirees have a vested right to free lifetime medical care.

Normally the word "vested" is not a challenge to my limited English skills, but in this instance vested was combined with rights, so I consulted Merriam-Webster.

“VESTED RIGHT”,
a right belonging so absolutely, completely, and unconditionally to a person that it cannot be defeated by the act of any private person and that is entitled to governmental protection.

Hmmm, really? It is my understanding that anything can be overturned; if there is a will there is a way!

I understand that a union is representing its membership and will try to get as much from an employer as they can. But this employer, the local resident and taxpayer who has done without services of many kinds has been sucking stale air for years while the upper crust of employees, our very own public servants, have been farting in silk ...and left one hell of a stench behind as they hightailed it out of town.

I fully support CM Keen and his Team, most likely the first one in history of this town with a clear understanding that you can not squeeze blood from a turnip nor can we print money in the basement to satisfy the faulty understanding of our VPOA leadership that they have a "vested right" to anything.

Fiscal responsibility has to be on the forefront this time around and this CM has a clear understanding of that!
More power to you and your Team Mr. Keen!
VPOA Complaint summarized

Vallejo, CA

#11 Oct 17, 2013
Link to documents

http://ibvallejo.com/index.php...

What VPOA wants
1) to continue to accrue sick leave and be paid for accrued amount when leave/retiree ( up to 480 hours)
2)Free medical insurance
3) 100% free medical insurance when retired
4)get rid of Council member Gomes as she has a conflict of interest due to her husband being a former member of Camp ( Complaint filed around October 11)
CLAIM BEING ASKED TO GIVE UP $25,000

What City WANTS
1)5% pay reduction
2)get rid of Longevity pay
3) VPOA members pay an additional 3.4% to PERS retirement (like firefighters do)
4) Pay part of the cost of health insurance 25%?
5) instead
of free medical insurance when retire get $300 per month(like other employees)
6) void final payment of $333,333 that VPOA was to receive as part of agreement
(VPOA already received $666,666)
7) Captains will no longer get management incentive pay (5%) nor receive OT from 3rd party .
addl VPOA claims

Vallejo, CA

#12 Oct 17, 2013
VPOA Complaint summarized wrote:
Link to documents
http://ibvallejo.com/index.php...
What VPOA wants
1) to continue to accrue sick leave and be paid for accrued amount when leave/retiree ( up to 480 hours)
2)Free medical insurance
3) 100% free medical insurance when retired
4)get rid of Council member Gomes as she has a conflict of interest due to her husband being a former member of Camp ( Complaint filed around October 11)
CLAIM BEING ASKED TO GIVE UP $25,000
What City WANTS
1)5% pay reduction
2)get rid of Longevity pay
3) VPOA members pay an additional 3.4% to PERS retirement (like firefighters do)
4) Pay part of the cost of health insurance 25%?
5) instead
of free medical insurance when retire get $300 per month(like other employees)
6) void final payment of $333,333 that VPOA was to receive as part of agreement
(VPOA already received $666,666)
7) Captains will no longer get management incentive pay (5%) nor receive OT from 3rd party .
In their lawsuit, VPOA also claims that the city was "premature" in issuing a last and final offer, along with declaring an impasse in negotiations. "Premature" after being in negotiations for over a year, really?
Clearly VPOA has been stalling as long as they can, hoping to time out the city and get their contracts deferred to a new Council. Even the timing of their lawsuit is stalling, as the last & final offer was submitted Sept 20.
Keep Kreins, let him vet if there are any other keepers, & fire the rest I say.
drumk union goom

Vallejo, CA

#13 Oct 17, 2013
yeah, fir eus all!
Anon

Vallejo, CA

#14 Oct 17, 2013
Look Closer wrote:
This action seems like they are out to screw themselves by inciting public outrage at Jump Start. Or, is there something else being cooked up here? It's too good to be true for the Gomers, you know what they say about that.
What is ironic is that an arbitration award would go to the city. But, the COV will end up being drug through the court system for years instead of this being selled in 5 weeks by an arbiter.
drumk union goom

Vallejo, CA

#15 Oct 17, 2013
ya think?
Your so full of it

Vallejo, CA

#16 Oct 17, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
What is ironic is that an arbitration award would go to the city. But, the COV will end up being drug through the court system for years instead of this being selled in 5 weeks by an arbiter.
Then why are the unions spending over $100,000 to get Binding Arbitration back?. You really are full of it.
drumk union goom

Vallejo, CA

#17 Oct 17, 2013
we pay off arbiters too! i don't care who knows, we buy all kinds of people off. we have the money... yours!
mafioso tactics

Vallejo, CA

#18 Oct 17, 2013
Anon wrote:
<quoted text>
What is ironic is that an arbitration award would go to the city. But, the COV will end up being drug through the court system for years instead of this being selled in 5 weeks by an arbiter.
Great strategy the VPD has going -- delay, delay, lawsuit, hope to stall some more and then claim, voila -- we need binding arbitration to solve it!

Sorry, Vallejoans are done with mafioso pressure tactics, and we're really done with your binding arbitration gambit. You've lost that battle, move on.

The PD may have played the calendar right, but the City has cojones, and will vote to impose. Sure, VPD can play the victim, but we're talking the 5%-ers who STILL have gold-plated benefits, in a town where a lot of us don't have jobs, let alone benefits and pensions (what's a pension?)
missed pitch

San Francisco, CA

#19 Oct 17, 2013
Take that drama queen bull s h i t back to the VIB sandbox. It doesn't work over here.

VIB is finished. Nothing can save it now.

There are not enough VIB supporters left to elect any of your candidates.

Things have changed drastically.
get on board

Vallejo, CA

#20 Oct 17, 2013
mafioso tactics wrote:
<quoted text>
Great strategy the VPD has going -- delay, delay, lawsuit, hope to stall some more and then claim, voila -- we need binding arbitration to solve it!
Sorry, Vallejoans are done with mafioso pressure tactics, and we're really done with your binding arbitration gambit. You've lost that battle, move on.
The PD may have played the calendar right, but the City has cojones, and will vote to impose. Sure, VPD can play the victim, but we're talking the 5%-ers who STILL have gold-plated benefits, in a town where a lot of us don't have jobs, let alone benefits and pensions (what's a pension?)
jobs? What's a pension? Go through the police academy and the process that follows. If you work real hard you'll get one.
he did

Vallejo, CA

#21 Oct 17, 2013
and you can also win a Kindle on Politix. Sam did!

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