Vallejo police staffing facing histor...
Jim in SF

Benicia, CA

#21 Mar 22, 2013
Steve Jobs, excuse-moi.
Sheepdog

Fair Oaks, CA

#22 Mar 22, 2013
Captain wrote:
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Do you want to buy a clue, phone a friend, or ask the audience? What a dope!
I would like to phone a friend to buy you some dope so that you will have a clue while I'm stating the facts in front of an audience so that there are witnesses to your tree hugging liberal granola eating ideas!

Liberalism is a disease!
Captain

Pleasanton, CA

#23 Mar 23, 2013
Sheepdog wrote:
<quoted text>
I would like to phone a friend to buy you some dope so that you will have a clue while I'm stating the facts in front of an audience so that there are witnesses to your tree hugging liberal granola eating ideas!
Liberalism is a disease!
Huh? I'm sure that made sense in your own mind.
Captain

Pleasanton, CA

#24 Mar 23, 2013
Benny Hill wrote:
Vallejo Police Department staffing has been described by the Police Chief and Vallejo Vice-Mayor as "grossly understaffed". More officers are retiring over the next few months and over a dozen veteran officers are said to be actively searching for employment opportunities in other jurisdictions in order to sustain their "high 3" pension calculations...
Benny, while I think your entire rant is suspect at best I'd like to know what you mean by, "a dozen veteran officers are said to be actively searching for employment opportunities in other jurisdictions in order to sustain their "high 3" pension calculations".

What do you mean by their "high 3" pension calculation?
joe on dope

Vallejo, CA

#25 Mar 23, 2013
screw off joe. mind your own business, vallejo is not your business any more.
wendy

Brisbane, CA

#26 Mar 23, 2013
hey benny pour some milk on yer bowl of cheetos and watch some cartoons ! then STFU we know who you are
fred

Brisbane, CA

#27 Mar 23, 2013
Benny Hill facing major intellect short fall or a brainslide kinda like a mental s--tfall same ole same ole
Interesting

Vallejo, CA

#28 Mar 23, 2013
Looks like Gomes will not have 4 votes to impose a contract on VPOA.
Minutes from the last closed session with labor negotiators, where BOTH GOMES AND BROWN SHOWED UP LATE, indicate Sampayan recused from VPOA discussion because of conflict of interest.
"Councilmember Sampayan reported that under Government Code Section 1090 he has a conflict with respect to VPOA and will be recusing himself from participating in Closed Session Item B as noted below".
Gomes recused from CAMP discussion.
"Due to a conflict in interest covered under Government Code Section 1090, Vice Mayor Gomes left the Council Conference Room and returned to the Council Chambers at 6:43 p.m. recusing herself from participating in Closed Session Item D as noted below"
Well, well. So there you have it. After all the big mouthing from Gomes about coming after the VPOA, she won't have her loyal houseboy next to her at vote time.
Interesting

Vallejo, CA

#29 Mar 23, 2013
(T)urds enragement!
old school

Vallejo, CA

#30 Mar 23, 2013
Interesting wrote:
Looks like Gomes will not have 4 votes to impose a contract on VPOA.
Minutes from the last closed session with labor negotiators, where BOTH GOMES AND BROWN SHOWED UP LATE, indicate Sampayan recused from VPOA discussion because of conflict of interest.
"Councilmember Sampayan reported that under Government Code Section 1090 he has a conflict with respect to VPOA and will be recusing himself from participating in Closed Session Item B as noted below".
Gomes recused from CAMP discussion.
"Due to a conflict in interest covered under Government Code Section 1090, Vice Mayor Gomes left the Council Conference Room and returned to the Council Chambers at 6:43 p.m. recusing herself from participating in Closed Session Item D as noted below"
Well, well. So there you have it. After all the big mouthing from Gomes about coming after the VPOA, she won't have her loyal houseboy next to her at vote time.
lol, the police will be paid. wonder what happens on a 3-3 split for a new contract? the old one still prevail? another set-back for gomes and her crew of cop-haters.
anon

Vallejo, CA

#31 Mar 23, 2013
Captain wrote:
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Anon, apparently you haven't learned anything over the past several years. I don't need to read your link to know you are clueless.
Captain, if you don't own the title to your home you are living your own unfunded liability. Are you worried about passing that liability on to your kids?

2. States are facing an "unfunded liability" in excess of anywhere from $3 trillion to $757 billion.

The concept of an "unfunded liability" is misleading because pension benefits are paid out over decades. A mortgage represents a good analogy. Imagine newlyweds, both of whom work, buying a $300,000 home and putting $20,000 down. The $280,000 they owe represents an "unfunded liability," but like pensions, that money is not due all at once. It is due over 30 years, under the terms of a typical loan agreement.

Opponents of public employee pensions have skillfully portrayed pension liabilities as a bill that is due today. If homeowners had to pay the full cost of their home at the time of purchase, 99 percent of us would be renting. But homeowners don't have to pay for the homes all at once, so it's very misleading to portray pension funds in that light because pensions are paid to retirees over many decades.
voters dumped schivley

Vallejo, CA

#32 Mar 23, 2013
lol, coming down to the wire on a new contract for vpoa, and sappyman will have to recuse! there goes the majority!
i love karma!
i hate vallejo still!
Ya Daddy Now

Vallejo, CA

#33 Mar 23, 2013
voters dumped schivley wrote:
lol, coming down to the wire on a new contract for vpoa, and sappyman will have to recuse! there goes the majority!
i love karma!
i hate vallejo still!
So much for the dream of Stephanie Gomes. All that mouth and she won't have 4 votes to burn VPOA.
Captain

Pleasanton, CA

#34 Mar 25, 2013
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Captain, if you don't own the title to your home you are living your own unfunded liability. Are you worried about passing that liability on to your kids?
2. States are facing an "unfunded liability" in excess of anywhere from $3 trillion to $757 billion.
The concept of an "unfunded liability" is misleading because pension benefits are paid out over decades. A mortgage represents a good analogy. Imagine newlyweds, both of whom work, buying a $300,000 home and putting $20,000 down. The $280,000 they owe represents an "unfunded liability," but like pensions, that money is not due all at once. It is due over 30 years, under the terms of a typical loan agreement.
Opponents of public employee pensions have skillfully portrayed pension liabilities as a bill that is due today. If homeowners had to pay the full cost of their home at the time of purchase, 99 percent of us would be renting. But homeowners don't have to pay for the homes all at once, so it's very misleading to portray pension funds in that light because pensions are paid to retirees over many decades.
Anon, you've obviously learned nothing over the past several years.

Anon says, "The concept of an "unfunded liability" is misleading because pension benefits are paid out over decades. A mortgage represents a good analogy."

- No it doesn't, and that stupid often repeated analogy is ridiculous! Anon, you should quit trying to find bad quotes and start trying to understand why the unfunded pension liabilities are NOT analogous to a mortgage - and they're not!

What makes you think a liability that isn't offset by an asset has any relationship to a mortgage. When you payoff a home mortgage you have an asset that has hopefully increased in value. When Vallejo pays off the 250 million plus in unfunded pension liability what will they have to show for the 250 plus million dollars they've spent? The answer is nothing!
Im hopefull

Vallejo, CA

#35 Mar 27, 2013
Two new rookies. I hope to god they have "somthing to prove" and beat the locals into submission. I hope, I hope, I hope!
still have my guns

Vallejo, CA

#36 Mar 27, 2013
they will stay long enough to gain experience then bail, but thank god they are here anyway. stay safe out there, the council does not care about you, only how much they have to pay you.
NowSeeHereJim

Vallejo, CA

#37 Mar 27, 2013
And neither one lives in Vallejo or plans to move here.
Chu Talkin Bout Willis

Vallejo, CA

#38 Mar 27, 2013
The Carriage Oaks/Cimarron Hills residents should file a class action suit against the city for denial of safety services. They are being subjected to an outrageous degree of crime. A whole house emptied while the residents went on vacation? Doors kicked in during broad daylight without a care in the world. Incredible!!
Jim in SF

San Jose, CA

#39 Mar 27, 2013
I would like the residents under attack to identify the Real Estate agents/offices that sold them their homes. The agents that are long time Vallejo residents or have worked the Vallejo market for many years knew full well that any neighborhood connected to Country Club Crest was a bad, bad, bad place to buy. Lets hear some names ladies. Hard working people looking to make a major investment in a home deserve to know the agents and offices to avoid. It a matter of simple fairness.
Carriage Oaks hostage

Vallejo, CA

#40 Mar 27, 2013
Jim in SF wrote:
I would like the residents under attack to identify the Real Estate agents/offices that sold them their homes. The agents that are long time Vallejo residents or have worked the Vallejo market for many years knew full well that any neighborhood connected to Country Club Crest was a bad, bad, bad place to buy. Lets hear some names ladies. Hard working people looking to make a major investment in a home deserve to know the agents and offices to avoid. It a matter of simple fairness.
This is a damn good idea Jim. This entire development was a bad idea next to a permanent hoodlum empire. I wonder what politicos approved it in the first place? Anyone know?

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