Vallejo police staffing facing histor...

Vallejo police staffing facing historic shortfall

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Benny Hill

Vallejo, CA

#1 Mar 21, 2013
Vallejo Police Department staffing has been described by the Police Chief and Vallejo Vice-Mayor as "grossly understaffed". More officers are retiring over the next few months and over a dozen veteran officers are said to be actively searching for employment opportunities in other jurisdictions in order to sustain their "high 3" pension calculations, which would be impacted by significant cuts to police officers compensation that are certain to be imposed by the Vallejo City Council.
Mayor Osby Davis has indicated that the city is indeed "doing something" to address the police staffing issue, but has yet to define what it is. A presentation by Police Chief Joseph Kreins detailing recruiting efforts and long range staffing is anticipated soon. City Manager Dan Keen has indicated that officer recruiting is "going well", despite a response from only 162 applicants during last years open call for 5 officers. Unsubstantiated accounts suggest less than a dozen of those met minimum qualifications.
Vallejo is experiencing a rising tide of criminality and gun related incidents that is certain to get worse as police presence continues to plummet.
anonymous

Vacaville, CA

#2 Mar 21, 2013
And so, the obvious answer, Mr. Hill, is to pay more even though our roads are in shambles, the unfunded liability for pensions is increasing, and we do nothing about anything else. Right?
Jim in SF

San Jose, CA

#3 Mar 21, 2013
The obvious answer is to vote NO on more affordable housing. The city council and city management must be insane.
Im Talking Now

Vallejo, CA

#4 Mar 21, 2013
I agree, the city is screwing itself with an addiction to growing the very population that is at the root of most of our social ills and criminal behavior. With a population shifting to more law-abiding citizens, the need for more police would go down dramatically. We are going to need a massive police presence on the streets. When you say we can't afford them, can we afford more criminality in "our beautiful Vallejo"?
anon

Vallejo, CA

#5 Mar 21, 2013
anonymous wrote:
And so, the obvious answer, Mr. Hill, is to pay more even though our roads are in shambles, the unfunded liability for pensions is increasing, and we do nothing about anything else. Right?
Pay more? Quit cutting. And shove the unfunded liability myth ( http://www.nlpspa.ca/unfunded-liabilities-are... ) up your schussel.
so dont believe me then

Vallejo, CA

#6 Mar 21, 2013
chances are very good that we could be down to the low 70's by mid-summer.
saaay jim

Vallejo, CA

#7 Mar 21, 2013
Jim in SF wrote:
The obvious answer is to vote NO on more affordable housing. The city council and city management must be insane.
they are going to vote to prop up the "temple lofts" artiste housing on tuesday. it never stops! i give it 6 months and there will be baby mamas and double wide strollers rolling in and out, with a paintbrush of course, lol.
non of the people proposing this crap have to live here to deal with the consequences of it.
uts

Vallejo, CA

#8 Mar 21, 2013
saaay jim wrote:
<quoted text>they are going to vote to prop up the "temple lofts" artiste housing on tuesday. it never stops! i give it 6 months and there will be baby mamas and double wide strollers rolling in and out, with a paintbrush of course, lol.
non of the people proposing this crap have to live here to deal with the consequences of it.
Some of the the Masons are rolling in their graves.
Its Gomes fault

United States

#9 Mar 21, 2013
It's Gomes fault and her VIB council majority. The sooner they are the minority the sooner this will resolve itself positively. The next opportunity is in November on election day. Do NOT vote for any VIB candidates unless you want more of the same old thing.
i like ike

Vallejo, CA

#10 Mar 21, 2013
the communities of color are now engaged in the voting process and will make sure no vib racists are elected.
sheeeee

United States

#11 Mar 21, 2013
Well sheeeeeee! It's about f@#king time!
Sheepdog

Fair Oaks, CA

#12 Mar 21, 2013
A lack of qualified applicants, persons unable to pass backgrounds and polygraphs....but the Mayor has a plan. Right! What about this new Chief? New paint, chairs, new cars, more promotions....etc! New old ideas....so what is the plan? Cops retiring, cops leaving, the ones working are running call to call.......Haters making war with the police, guess its time to make friends with the criminals! More affordable low income housing! 225K a year for the new Chief! You gotta pay for quality...right Mayor?
ballbuster sam

Vallejo, CA

#13 Mar 22, 2013
lol, the chief has told liat he is not participating in any more commooniddy meetings.
<dusts off hands> so much for that!
uts

Vallejo, CA

#14 Mar 22, 2013
We need the Mafia to step in. They could regulate street crime real quick. I'd rather pay a little tribute than have my head caved in for my phone. Sh!t we have HellsAngeles right here. Maybe someone should ask them.
Wrong Again

Vacaville, CA

#15 Mar 22, 2013
i think sheepdog is saying that kriens got his and doesn' care what happens to his officers financially or staffing wise
Captain

Pleasanton, CA

#16 Mar 22, 2013
Benny Hill wrote:
Vallejo Police Department staffing has been described by the Police Chief and Vallejo Vice-Mayor as "grossly understaffed". More officers are retiring over the next few months and over a dozen veteran officers are said to be actively searching for employment opportunities in other jurisdictions in order to sustain their "high 3" pension calculations, which would be impacted by significant cuts to police officers compensation that are certain to be imposed by the Vallejo City Council.
Mayor Osby Davis has indicated that the city is indeed "doing something" to address the police staffing issue, but has yet to define what it is. A presentation by Police Chief Joseph Kreins detailing recruiting efforts and long range staffing is anticipated soon. City Manager Dan Keen has indicated that officer recruiting is "going well", despite a response from only 162 applicants during last years open call for 5 officers. Unsubstantiated accounts suggest less than a dozen of those met minimum qualifications.
Vallejo is experiencing a rising tide of criminality and gun related incidents that is certain to get worse as police presence continues to plummet.
Benny,

What do you mean by, "More officers are retiring over the next few months and over a dozen veteran officers are said to be actively searching for employment opportunities in other jurisdictions in order to sustain their "high 3" pension calculations, which would be impacted by significant cuts to police officers compensation that are certain to be imposed by the Vallejo City Council."

Your entire post is self serving, IMO, but I'm most curious about your comments about "high 3". What does that mean to you?
Captain

Pleasanton, CA

#17 Mar 22, 2013
anon wrote:
<quoted text>
Pay more? Quit cutting. And shove the unfunded liability myth ( http://www.nlpspa.ca/unfunded-liabilities-are... ) up your schussel.
Anon, apparently you haven't learned anything over the past several years. I don't need to read your link to know you are clueless.
Captain

Pleasanton, CA

#18 Mar 22, 2013
Sheepdog wrote:
A lack of qualified applicants, persons unable to pass backgrounds and polygraphs....but the Mayor has a plan. Right! What about this new Chief? New paint, chairs, new cars, more promotions....etc! New old ideas....so what is the plan? Cops retiring, cops leaving, the ones working are running call to call.......Haters making war with the police, guess its time to make friends with the criminals! More affordable low income housing! 225K a year for the new Chief! You gotta pay for quality...right Mayor?
Do you want to buy a clue, phone a friend, or ask the audience? What a dope!
yes sir

Vallejo, CA

#19 Mar 22, 2013
We need a man like Frank Rizzo.
Jim in SF

Benicia, CA

#20 Mar 22, 2013
uts wrote:
We need the Mafia to step in. They could regulate street crime real quick. I'd rather pay a little tribute than have my head caved in for my phone. Sh!t we have HellsAngeles right here. Maybe someone should ask them.
I like to follow the guidance that Steve gave when hiring people: "A people hire A people. B people hire C people."

The Hells Angels don't impress me. These are F people IMO.

How about American Patriots? These are A people and they come in all colors.

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