House fire next to church

House fire next to church

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Brent

Dresden, TN

#1 Mar 17, 2014
Is it true that a man (and his dog) died in the house that burned to the ground near Old Fulton Road because Martin Fire Department personnel had no water in their truck? Does anyone know anything about it? When I read that the firemen could not get into the house because of the smoke I thought: are there fires without smoke? What kind of firemen can't handle smoke? Any clarification will be appreciated.
Lisa B

Dresden, TN

#2 Mar 17, 2014
KFVS wrote "The smoke and fire were so strong the crews could not enter the home." I also found it weird. Aren't firefighters trained to enter houses on fire? Aren't they supposed to risk their lives to save others? Aren't they called heros for that? Hope this mans family gets a good lawyer.
Chuck

Martin, TN

#3 Mar 17, 2014
Lisa B wrote:
KFVS wrote "The smoke and fire were so strong the crews could not enter the home." I also found it weird. Aren't firefighters trained to enter houses on fire? Aren't they supposed to risk their lives to save others? Aren't they called heros for that? Hope this mans family gets a good lawyer.
Firefighters risk their lives everyday, but they also have to look out for their own safety. That fire and the smoke was to dangerous for them to enter the house. For the man who died in the house, he was drunk. He went out with one of his friends earlier that evening and got drunk. His friend had to help him into the house and put him in bed. His friend even said they both saw a spark coming from an electrical outlet in the same room the fire started before they went out drinking, but ignored it. Everything I am saying is what his friend said.
Brent

Dresden, TN

#4 Mar 18, 2014
Chuck, firefighting *is* a dangerous job and firefighters put their lives in danger every day across this nation to save people, houses and natural areas. They fall in the same category as police, soldiers and doctors in war zones. Dying comes with the territory. It doesn't matter if the man was drunk or not, if he could or couldn't have avoided the fire. If you are a firefight, you go in and do your job. You don't sit there and ponder: is this worthy of my life? It was a small house, not the WTC. Plus, good training and exposure to dangerous situations is what makes a firefighter more experienced and therefore better at the job. If one doesn't want to risk one's life, there are many other professions in which you can help others without facing death on a regular basis. Otherwise, say a prayer and jump in. And, please, avoid judging your own posts. It looks rather lame and self-serving.
Duh

Union City, TN

#5 Mar 18, 2014
That's like saying a lifeguard should swim into the middle of a bunch of sharks to save someone. Yes they knew the risk when they took the job BUT if its pretty clear they have no hope of saving the victim then no they should not rush in and lose their own life. They have families as well to think of. Its sad that the man died under any circumstances but those that instantly want to point fingers and start yelling get a lawyer obviously are the ones that sit and look for handouts. What kind of job do you do?
Brent

Dresden, TN

#6 Mar 18, 2014
You must be kidding, Duh. Can't you tell by the way I write that I'm far more educated than most in here and, therefore, might have a good job? I don't need handouts and no one in my family has ever needed handouts. Actually, for many generations we have had enough to give whatever you call "handouts" to those who are not as fortunate as we are. As far as the "jumping in the water with sharks" comparison, I beg to disagree with you. If you go to places where sharks are frequent or where the ocean is extremely dangerous (ex. the North Shore of Hawaii, West Palm Beach and North California), you will see that lifeguards DO go in the water to save people who are drowning or who are being attacked by a shark. Firefighters went up the WTC knowing that they could easily die (and many did). They also had families. My question is: would Martin Fire Department have been so cautious if the house on fire were in one of the nice neighborhoods? If a fire happens in my house and firemen are not willing to go in and FIGHT the fire, I will sue. No doubts about it. But, you know what? Ironically, if the fire had been in my house, I'm sure they would have tried harder, because they know my family. They are aware that I'm well related, respected in the community and with financial means to retain a good lawyer. Many people hire lawyers in pursuit of frivolous lawsuits, I agree with you. But the death of a man (drunk or sober) and the destruction of whatever little means his family had is not a frivolity. It's a crime of negligence. It just happens that, have traveled in missions around the world, I feel the need to speak for those whose voice is not as strong as mine. I sincerely hope you never have to stand and watch a house burn while a crazy uncle (we all have a crazy uncle) roasts inside. Have a good life.
outraged

Ashburn, VA

#7 Mar 18, 2014
Ok Brent or whoever you are. First of all your hiding behind a computer screen. Trying to start a bunch of crap. That tells me right off your not much of a man to begin with. Second of all its doesn't matter where the fire was nice neighbor or not . It doesn't matter who's house is burning they all matter the same to a firefighter. Did it ever enter your pea size of a brain that the gentleman in the house had already passed away from the smoke before the fire dept got there. As far as running into an house that's covered in flames. I don't see you working on the fire dept. It's so easy to sit back point fingers and tell someone else how to do their job isn't?
cripet

Jackson, TN

#8 Mar 19, 2014
Brent wrote:
Chuck, firefighting *is* a dangerous job and firefighters put their lives in danger every day across this nation to save people, houses and natural areas. They fall in the same category as police, soldiers and doctors in war zones. Dying comes with the territory. It doesn't matter if the man was drunk or not, if he could or couldn't have avoided the fire. If you are a firefight, you go in and do your job. You don't sit there and ponder: is this worthy of my life? It was a small house, not the WTC. Plus, good training and exposure to dangerous situations is what makes a firefighter more experienced and therefore better at the job. If one doesn't want to risk one's life, there are many other professions in which you can help others without facing death on a regular basis. Otherwise, say a prayer and jump in. And, please, avoid judging your own posts. It looks rather lame and self-serving.
and who the he11 is u to say if he is drunk or not mf
Lisa B

Dresden, TN

#9 Mar 19, 2014
cripet wrote:
<quoted text> and who the he11 is u to say if he is drunk or not mf
Read the whol thread bef caling people names. Mr. Brent is actully defending the dead guy. The other idiot is who said the man was drunk.
cripet

Jackson, TN

#10 Mar 20, 2014
well thats my mf uncle...... yall dnt even know him just go by what yalll hear...ion care who dnt like et.. how bout et
Guest

Dresden, TN

#11 Mar 20, 2014
Very sorry for your loss, Cripet, but I really want to get back to the original question. DID the Martin Fire Dept actually show up without water? The station is all but a block away and, from what I hear, the flames were not even that high when they first arrived on the scene. Honestly? I have seen more houses burn to the ground with the Martin FD making mistakes on the scene than I can count. Anyone remember the "Wren's Next #1" or whatever they called that house that burned behind the post office? Heck, they were shooting the hose OVER the house on fire! Seems like a similar case here.

Any word about the outside dog? Big dog that was always chained up outside. Hopefully, the FD had bolt cutters and freed it.
cripet

Jackson, TN

#12 Mar 21, 2014
yes they did. and the flames was already high when they got there.
Karen

Martin, TN

#13 Mar 22, 2014
Guest wrote:
Very sorry for your loss, Cripet, but I really want to get back to the original question. DID the Martin Fire Dept actually show up without water? The station is all but a block away and, from what I hear, the flames were not even that high when they first arrived on the scene. Honestly? I have seen more houses burn to the ground with the Martin FD making mistakes on the scene than I can count. Anyone remember the "Wren's Next #1" or whatever they called that house that burned behind the post office? Heck, they were shooting the hose OVER the house on fire! Seems like a similar case here.
Any word about the outside dog? Big dog that was always chained up outside. Hopefully, the FD had bolt cutters and freed it.
I remember that house you have mentioned behind the post office. I didn't see any effort to save the house at all.
ropper

Union City, TN

#14 Mar 23, 2014
Karen: stop the Lesbionics. You were not there, you didn't see anything
Guest

Dresden, TN

#15 Mar 25, 2014
Cripit, again,very sorry for your loss. Thanks for the info on the dog and the clarification about the fire. Obviously, I only saw the after-effects of the destruction the next day.

To Karen, I was there and watching in amazement as they were seriously shooting water WAY over the house that was actually on fire. Not to water down the houses to the side as it was shooting almost to the road.
citizen zero

Union City, TN

#16 Mar 27, 2014
I'm sorry to hear there was a fatality

Are there no fire hydrants nearby? I thought tankers were only needed for outlying areas where there are no hydrants

I'm far from being an expert in firefighting techniques...that's why I'm asking
pissy

Dyersburg, TN

#17 Apr 8, 2014
I was their and do know the firemen did everything they could have done. unless u r n the profession don't say what u would or u wouldn't do. It's horrible that someone lost their life. Running your mouths only makes rumors even worse than they already are. I'm not a fireman, but I would rather have those men, then have the many other run down fire departments. Those men risk their life for people they don't know. I would be willing to bet not many of you posting the bashing's would ever run into a building that huge flames were rolling out of. I do know what its like to loose someone, not just family.... a pt. its hard as hell to loose and even harder to tell the family..... No one in any type of hazards job wants to loose anyone.... It's God's job to say how when and why..... all needs to remember that!!!! hope a lot of u ask for forgiveness for the trashy comments some have made!!!!!

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