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Al Gore

Martin, TN

#1 Aug 3, 2011
Global Warming is changing our planet.
The 20th.century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 yrs.
Arctic ice is rapidly disappearing, and is expected to be ice free by 2040. Polar bears have been seen floating in our oceans dead. Glaciers and mtn. snows are melting. Montana's Glacier National Park only has 27 glciers, versus 150 in 1910.
Coral reefs, which are highly sensitive to temp. change, suffered the worst dieoff ever recorded in 1998.
Some 2,500 scientists worldwide in some 130 countries, say that industrialization, deforestation and pollution are causing our world to heat up.
Whats going to happen? Food and water shortages. Wildlife die offs. Sea levels rising 7-23". Strong hurricanes, droughts, heat waves, wildfires,and other natural disasters.
Too bad the Republicans don't agree, but then again, they have their big oil buddies to protect.
guess who

Cookeville, TN

#2 Aug 3, 2011
You are so dumb. You want industries to stop producing what we need to keep living? Let's just all go back and live like cave people again. There are cars in the making and already in existence that cause less pollution. Yes the world is changing, but we really can't change what mother nature is doing. There is only so much that can be done to help.
goresbastard

Cookeville, TN

#3 Aug 3, 2011
yeah i will start considering global warming to be an actual science and will get all weepy eyed for the polar bears that forget to take swimming classes when it starts to get hot around january. right now its august, the middle of summer. it is supposed to be hot.
Geezus

Newbern, TN

#4 Aug 3, 2011
400 years? we would need to know how hot/cold it has been over several thousand years to even begin to estimate our effect on the earth. Scientists also claim we go through a ice age every 10,000 years or so. If this is true them my guess is that any effect we do have on the world would just speed this process up slightly. Reguardless I dont feel like its the big emergency some people want it to be.
guest

Martin, TN

#5 Aug 3, 2011
there has been global warming since the ice age. explain that one to me
Rhonda

United States

#6 Aug 3, 2011
Wow. Just b/c this person was trying to make a point he/she got made fun of and chastized. Of course what can you expect from Topix. Maybe one day soon they will require us all to get accounts with valid information and it would put an end to all this nonsense. As for the person that started this discussion - don't take what these people say to heart. Everyone on Topix is full of anger and has no better way to let it out.
nom nom nom

Cookeville, TN

#7 Aug 3, 2011
there not making fun there just making points too
Geezus

Newbern, TN

#8 Aug 3, 2011
Anger? I'm not mad at anyone. ole al gore posted facts to prove a statement. Problem is there are way too many holes.

First for the sake of arguement we will asume these are true statements.

The 20th century's last two decades were the hottest in 400 years.- 400 years is a tiny fraction of the time you would need to know if the planet is really warmer than it should be. Its known that the planet goes through a ice age and heating up period over and over again. this takes about 10,000 years. So we would have to know the temp of the planet 10,000 years ago at this time to even have anything to compair it too and still that would not be considered proof. you would have to go back hundreds of thousands of years and compair every 10k years or so to determine what effect we are really having.

The ice melting statements - well yes. but consider this. The ice has been melting since the end of the ice age. whats new?

polar bears death - yes I'm sure they have been found dead. they sit a peice of ice and watch it float away from the main chunk and then as it moves them farther and farther away it melts more and more.

Coral reefs worst dieoff in 98 - first off same answer as before. How do you know this? just how long have they been watching and recording the death of coral reefs?

scientists claiming we are causing the world to heat up - Ok I'll believe em.. I'm certain they are smarter than me. But what I would ask is how much? Its really just a best guess that we are the cause. however I do believe we probably do have a effect on the climate to some degree.

all the scary stuff that will happen - Well again the world is heating up reguardless. It would be heating up even if we all disappeared. If heating up causes all the scary stuff you are talking about then that is not going to be avoided no matter what. the only question is how soon. are we taking 100 years off the 10,000 year plan or are we taking 1000 years.

The biggest problem I have with all of this is the time frame that these people give. They yell and scream that we must stop now or it will be too late. IF that is the case then you might as well make a sign and yell it is too late cuz we aint gonna stop anytime soon. Perhaps its possible to make things a little better but that would be done very slowly. You are not going to make the world stop driving cars or stop wasteing electricity. Not to mention to get what ya want done you would need to pretty much shut down everything umm Forever? No.. maybe of the next couple hundred years we can improve our habbits and treat the earth a little better. BUT to think that there is anything your gonna be able to do by like 2040 or for that matter any time in our lifetime is just not possible. Your tryin to stop a 10,000 ton train moving 50mph instantly. Its just not possible.

I'm not making fun or being mean. I simply disagree.
Logic

Martin, TN

#9 Aug 4, 2011
Let's see:

"Climate gate"- UK scientists that led the research into Gore's Global Warming were found to be manipulating data to support their conclusions after their email server was hacked and their emails posted on the web. That particular research groupd has been disbanded/defunded.

Recently, a NASA research group disproved "global warming" advocates primary contention that the atmosphere wasn't shedding heat fast enough (which leads to warming of the earth). The NASA scientists (several of whom were global warmers) discovered that the earth actually sheds heat much faster than previously believed. In fact, their findings pretty much shot holes in just about every anthropomorphic global warming theory thus far conceived.

If your eyes glaze over reading the above-cosider this. The primary way Al Gore believed industries could negate their global warming actions was to purchase "Carbon Offsets" from a company who in turn would use the funds to purchase emissions scrubbers, plant trees, etc. Ironically there was only one company selling "Carbon Offsets" and it was owned and operated by...guess who? Al Gore
Logic

Martin, TN

#10 Aug 4, 2011
Rhonda wrote:
Wow. Just b/c this person was trying to make a point he/she got made fun of and chastized. Of course what can you expect from Topix. Maybe one day soon they will require us all to get accounts with valid information and it would put an end to all this nonsense. As for the person that started this discussion - don't take what these people say to heart. Everyone on Topix is full of anger and has no better way to let it out.
No Rhonda, the problem with lies is that if you repeat them enough, they appear to be true to others.

Anthropomorphic global warming is a gigantic lie foisted on a guilt-ridden American public.

The primary scientific groups that supported Gore's contention have all been found to have been manipulating data or simply creating data out of thin air.

As each successive theory was debunked, Gore simply changed his contention. For example, Global Warming became Global climate change when it was discovered that the results didn't support the original hypothesis.

Global Climate change? I need Al Gore to tell me that over history, wide-sweeping climate changes have occurred (ice age for example)? Furthermore, these changes have occurred prior to the presence of humans.

And lastly, as if the whole concocted crisis needed more holes-you should do some investigating into who owned the only company that was selling "carbon credits" or "carbon offsets" to industry. These credits/offsets, Gore assured us, would save the world from catastrophe. I'll give you a hint as to the owner's identity: first name starts with "Al" and his last name starts with "Gore".
GET REAL

Martin, TN

#11 Aug 4, 2011
nom nom nom wrote:
there not making fun there just making points too
Pardon me, but you don't make a point by posting under the name "goresabastard" That's what is wrong with things now. There is no civility in this society.
Give your opinion but use the sense God gave a Betsy Bug.
I for one think our world is heating up. Our civilization has created too much pollution. There are tons of chemicals in our food supply now. Have you ever noticed how many people have cancer now days? Maybe it's caused from our food and the air we breathe?
Just my opinion!!!!
get a brain

Martin, TN

#12 Aug 4, 2011
Logic wrote:
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No Rhonda, the problem with lies is that if you repeat them enough, they appear to be true to others.
Anthropomorphic global warming is a gigantic lie foisted on a guilt-ridden American public.
The primary scientific groups that supported Gore's contention have all been found to have been manipulating data or simply creating data out of thin air.
As each successive theory was debunked, Gore simply changed his contention. For example, Global Warming became Global climate change when it was discovered that the results didn't support the original hypothesis.
Global Climate change? I need Al Gore to tell me that over history, wide-sweeping climate changes have occurred (ice age for example)? Furthermore, these changes have occurred prior to the presence of humans.
And lastly, as if the whole concocted crisis needed more holes-you should do some investigating into who owned the only company that was selling "carbon credits" or "carbon offsets" to industry. These credits/offsets, Gore assured us, would save the world from catastrophe. I'll give you a hint as to the owner's identity: first name starts with "Al" and his last name starts with "Gore".
You can dig up any information you want to now days but that doesn't make it true either. All those scientists throughout the whole world are not lieing, like you say Gore is.
You don't even have to use science to realize the sun is hotter now.
Most of these nay-sayers on here are right wing morons anyway. If George Bush or Dick Cheney said "the sky is falling", they'd all run and hide.
nom nom nom

Crossville, TN

#13 Aug 5, 2011
GET REAL wrote:
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Pardon me, but you don't make a point by posting under the name "goresabastard" That's what is wrong with things now. There is no civility in this society.
Give your opinion but use the sense God gave a Betsy Bug.
I for one think our world is heating up. Our civilization has created too much pollution. There are tons of chemicals in our food supply now. Have you ever noticed how many people have cancer now days? Maybe it's caused from our food and the air we breathe?
Just my opinion!!!!


it seems like theres more cancer because its diagnosed more that doesnt mean there actually is more back in the day there wasnt anyway to tell if someone had cancer
Logic

Martin, TN

#14 Aug 6, 2011
get a brain wrote:
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You can dig up any information you want to now days but that doesn't make it true either. All those scientists throughout the whole world are not lieing, like you say Gore is.
You don't even have to use science to realize the sun is hotter now.
Most of these nay-sayers on here are right wing morons anyway. If George Bush or Dick Cheney said "the sky is falling", they'd all run and hide.
I'd agree that the sun is actually more active and therefore hotter on the earth's surface.

Increased solar activity has been observed and charted by scientists.

But we didn't cause the sun to get hotter. That's a natural cyclical occurence.
GET REAL

Martin, TN

#15 Aug 6, 2011
Logic wrote:
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I'd agree that the sun is actually more active and therefore hotter on the earth's surface.
Increased solar activity has been observed and charted by scientists.
But we didn't cause the sun to get hotter. That's a natural cyclical occurence.
Duh !!!!! The sun is hotter because the ozone layer is thinner !!
sceptic

Monterey, TN

#16 Aug 7, 2011
GET REAL wrote:
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Duh !!!!! The sun is hotter because the ozone layer is thinner !!
so if the thinning ozone on earth explains the rise in temperature, then explain why mars is heating up as well? not too many SUV's running around there...
Concerned

Monterey, TN

#17 Aug 7, 2011
Lol @skeptic! Nice.
Get Real

Martin, TN

#18 Sep 2, 2011
Earth heating up! Stronger and more frequent storms. Super pollens for people with allergies. Even worse winters thanks to GLOBAL WARMING. I doubt all those scientists were wrong !!!!
Geezus

Crossville, TN

#19 Sep 3, 2011
Get Real wrote:
Earth heating up! Stronger and more frequent storms. Super pollens for people with allergies. Even worse winters thanks to GLOBAL WARMING. I doubt all those scientists were wrong !!!!
I just don't know how you know this information is true. Do you know how old the earth is? When you compair this age to how long we have been keeping track of the heat,pollens,storms,winters then you would realize that we don't have near enough data to know one way or another. Sure if you just compair the last 100 years then YES you can say ohh the earth is heating up or the storms are worse. but compair the last million years and see if its a nautral occurrence or if this is really something new to the earth.
goresbastard

Monterey, TN

#20 Sep 5, 2011
So the high temperature for today was in the sixties. If Global Warming was behind it, then we need to burn as much fossile fuel as we can. Make more of these hurricanes to keep us cool all summer long.

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