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just wondering

South Sioux City, NE

#1 Jan 26, 2013
Why is it that the investigators in Martin start out with investigations that cost the taxpayers money and then they just drop them and dont follow through? Just wondering...... I would think that if it was worth calling an investigation that cost the taxpayes money they would at least finish it til they had a concrete answer. This just makes no sense to me. Does anyone have a good explanation for this kind of behaviour?
and

Glenview Nas, IL

#2 Jan 27, 2013
They was better when Sammy was n charge.
just wondering

South Sioux City, NE

#3 Feb 3, 2013
Well I dont know Sammy but I do know they have some fairly new investigators there. And I was told that investigators keep pounding you when you tell one lie and they know for a fact that you did and they will get the truth out of you. Also I have seen where they have concrete evidence on things and just let them go. But why?? We shouldnt start investigations and spend the taxpayers money if we are not going to follow through. How would you go about to push them to do their job?
pissinUoff

Paris, TN

#4 Feb 4, 2013
just wondering wrote:
Well I dont know Sammy but I do know they have some fairly new investigators there. And I was told that investigators keep pounding you when you tell one lie and they know for a fact that you did and they will get the truth out of you. Also I have seen where they have concrete evidence on things and just let them go. But why?? We shouldnt start investigations and spend the taxpayers money if we are not going to follow through. How would you go about to push them to do their job?
Small town politics. Certain people are above the law.

Martin PD seems to have a high turnover rate due to the fact that most LEOs are ambitious and looking to move up, so Martin is just the first rung on a career ladder for many. Keep that in mind. That makes it hard for those LEOs who choose to stay in Martin to form cohesive teams.

Several acquaintances have pleaded with me to come out of retirement and counsel some alledgedly abused children and their parents and caregivers who seem to have been wrongfully and unconstitutionally punished by Martin PD's investigators and Department of Children's Services case workers. Over the course of the past few months I have read the reports of several cases, the papers submitted to the courts by DCS and LEOs, police reports, and the resulting court orders. I can definately see patterns of various psychological problems appaerent in the patterns of the police department and DCS employees involved. There are some sick, abusive behaviors apparent on the part of DCS and police department employees. However, the attitudes and the methods of the government employees involved are only part of the problem.

I am appalled at what I have learned about Tennessee's child welfare laws and the procedures developed to apply them. DCS admits a few dozen children in their care die each year, and there appears to be a cover-up of other deaths and injuries of children in the care of DCS. That's a major concern.

There also appears to be a good bit of psychological abuse of children, their parents, and caregivers who are bullied by police investigators and DCS, even when they have no evidence. I have talked to several people whose children were abused by others, then DCS has broken up the relationships among consenting adults as well as between children and caregivers of whom the children are adamant that the caregivers have never harmed the children. I know two step-fathers, a grandfather, and three mothers' fiancees who have been ordered to have no contact with children or their mothers even when the men had nothing to do with a child's abuse.

This all indicates a systemic failure of the child welfare system in Tennessee, the process and procedures seem to too easily allow the abuse of police and DCS authority, resulting in great harm to innocents and significant lack of effectiveness protecting those who truly need protection.

What I've been told about Martin's investigators is more like they will threaten until their victims say what the investigators want to hear--the investigators don't really care about the truth or any semblance of justice.

From what I learned, I will NEVER talk to any investigator from any government department without my attorney present. Period. The criminal justice system is seriously flawed statewide, and seems like some of the local authorities milk the flaws for all they can in their drive to bully and harm innocent people.
peter

United States

#5 Feb 4, 2013
Its a small hillbilly department in a small hick town. What do you expect.
BOO HOO

United States

#6 Feb 4, 2013
peter wrote:
Its a small hillbilly department in a small hick town. What do you expect.
You got that right//personally I never expected any different out of this little hick town
guest

South Sioux City, NE

#7 Feb 5, 2013
You are so right about small town politics and the criminal justice system being flawed but it is high time we stand up and change this bull. There was an incident in Martin where someone died and there were several people at his house. They started the investigation right and then dropped the ball. Why???? They said drugs were involved this person never did drugs. They opened a criminal investigation ( this is serious and costs the taxpayers a lot of money). Ok when you say drugs are involved everyone in the house is to be drug tested, the house is to be secured and rope around it and no one should be allowed back in. This was not done why?????? Even tho there were lies told to the investigator nothing was done. There was cash found in the house they did not take that. Why???? Nothing was done according to law from day one. Who do you report this to? The DA doesnt even look at a case unless the PD investigators tell him there is a case. Maybe He should start looking at each case himself. This is not how things should be handled I dont care if this is a hick town. It is still in the United States the land of freedom and JUSTICE for all. There was no doubt some kind of foul play or cover up here. This case needs to be opened up. Maybe it should go to Nancy Grace or Unsolved Mysteries. But something needs to be done and this stuff carried out. If you start an investigation finish it. And if they say they finished it then why didnt they follow protocal and bring all the lies out and find the true answers. People need and deserve closure. What if it was your loved one???
guest

South Sioux City, NE

#8 Feb 5, 2013
peter wrote:
Its a small hillbilly department in a small hick town. What do you expect.
I expect investigators to do their job and I expect Justice!!!!! Why waste taxpayers money to open an investigation and not finish it??? Money doesnt need to be wasted. There is a reason to start an investigation so what is the reason to close it?
guest

South Sioux City, NE

#9 Feb 5, 2013
BOO HOO wrote:
<quoted text> You got that right//personally I never expected any different out of this little hick town
I expect people to do the right thing. If I was an investigator and someone lied to me and I caught them in a lie I would be more suspecious and I would really interagate them to get the real facts. I just couldnt live with myself letting something go where a person has lost their life and not get the real answers. If I was an investigator I would do a good job and get to the bottom of things. I would definetly want the truth after all that is their job to get the truth.
BOO HOO

United States

#10 Feb 6, 2013
I AGREE......But you do realize your talkin about
"martin" right??? you have a
''MARTIN BIG WHEEL CLUB HERE" AND YOU HAVE TO BE IN THAT LITTLE CREW. TO GET ANYTHING DONE........ITS SAD BUT TRUE.... I would amagine someone is coverin stuff up for certain people that's the way all these little hick towns are.....
guest

South Sioux City, NE

#11 Feb 6, 2013
Do yoou know who it is? Do you know who to go to that you can talk to and get something done? I mean it shouldnt be that way. People shouldnt be allowed to do whatever they want including killing someone and get by with it. And I am so tired of hearing God will get them. They do wrong they should have to pay now. Maybe later to but now also. Who is the Martin Big Wheel Club? And yes someone is coverin up for people. Its not about right and wrong its about how much money you have and who you know. This is just sad! It has got to stop!
sister

Cookeville, TN

#12 Feb 6, 2013
guest wrote:
Do yoou know who it is? Do you know who to go to that you can talk to and get something done? I mean it shouldnt be that way. People shouldnt be allowed to do whatever they want including killing someone and get by with it. And I am so tired of hearing God will get them. They do wrong they should have to pay now. Maybe later to but now also. Who is the Martin Big Wheel Club? And yes someone is coverin up for people. Its not about right and wrong its about how much money you have and who you know. This is just sad! It has got to stop!
You must be real bored to have to keep posting on this form to your own post.
pissinUoff

Paris, TN

#13 Feb 7, 2013
Tennessee seems to have a criminal injustice system that frees the guilty and punishes the innocent as often as as justice is done.
Wow

United States

#14 Feb 7, 2013
I can tell u this there are several dcs ladies sleeping with Martin investigators No wonder they get things done. Halter is a player and few of the women are are hoes.like mrs Reed who left her family to screw around with the investigator
pissinUoff

Paris, TN

#15 Feb 7, 2013
I am not surprised. No wonder DCS is on the ropes for cover-ups concerning the extent of deaths and injuries of children in their care. I suppose that is the inevitable result of legislation that protects individuals who are supposed to protect and serve from legal consequences for incompetence and abuse of their authority. This is EXACTLY why we have the 2nd Ammendment. When the revolution starts, those who were supposed to protect and serve but have abused others through the misuse of their allocated powers will be quickly sniped. Sadly, those who have protected and served without abusing others will be considered guilty by association with the tyrants and will also be targeted.
and

United States

#16 Feb 8, 2013
Wow wrote:
I can tell u this there are several dcs ladies sleeping with Martin investigators No wonder they get things done. Halter is a player and few of the women are are hoes.like mrs Reed who left her family to screw around with the investigator
Halter and legins been banging for years. I have personally seen them meeting behind places.
pissinUoff

Paris, TN

#17 Feb 10, 2013
So, those charged with researching sex crimes are sexual deviants? How small town.
guest

South Sioux City, NE

#18 Feb 11, 2013
sister wrote:
<quoted text>
You must be real bored to have to keep posting on this form to your own post.
Huh???? You dont know what you are talking about. I didnt start this and I certainly dont post on this forum to my own post. You must be bored to have to type things you dont even know.
just wondering

South Sioux City, NE

#19 Feb 11, 2013
Well maybe thats how the investigator got paid off in the criminal investigation that was opened up and closed with no answers at all. I mean if you open one you shouldnt close it til you have all the answers. But maybe the lady involved exchanged a favor the way you all are talking! Makes me wonder..........
just wondering

South Sioux City, NE

#20 Feb 11, 2013
BOO HOO wrote:
I AGREE......But you do realize your talkin about
"martin" right??? you have a
''MARTIN BIG WHEEL CLUB HERE" AND YOU HAVE TO BE IN THAT LITTLE CREW. TO GET ANYTHING DONE........ITS SAD BUT TRUE.... I would amagine someone is coverin stuff up for certain people that's the way all these little hick towns are.....
Do you know who the martin big wheel is? And do you know who you could talk to in that town about the coruption and to get something done?

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