The Home News, June 24, 2010
blame yourselves

Charlotte, NC

#21 Jun 26, 2010
Facts are facts wrote:
Good question "blame yourselves", how do you know Norma received a letter from the town of Marshville?
Isn't that an invasion of privacy? Who is leaking information? Was it discussed in a council meeting? Do tell.
Wouldn't know if someone "leaked" information, but I personally HEARD it from Normas mouth. She was bragging to some friends that she wouldn't cut the grass until the town sent her a letter, as they do with other fine upstanding citizens. She was overheard saying that she wanted them to have to treat her as they treat everyone else. Came from her own mouth. Before you start talking you need to look around and see who is listening. If some of you folks think you know Norma, then you would know if you give her your ear for 10 minutes she will fill it with ALL kinds of gossip, some true and some imaginative.
Danny Mills

Waxhaw, NC

#22 Jun 26, 2010
blame yourselves wrote:
<quoted text> If some of you folks think you know Norma, then you would know if you give her your ear for 10 minutes she will fill it with ALL kinds of gossip, some true and some imaginative.
If some of that "gossip" is true as you state then it really isn't gossip. It's truth.

People tend to put their own spin on a story when they tell it. We all do to a certain extent. I've been known to spin a tale of intrigue or two to keep peoples attention. I don't see a thing wrong with it.

I don't know why you are barking at Norma. You could come and bark at me if your point is that some people stretch the truth. If your point is that Norma tells lies then you can take your pick of any human being on earth or bark at yourself. We all lie at one time or another.
Jonathan Phifer

Charlotte, NC

#23 Jun 26, 2010
I must agree with the blame yourselve post, although I do not believe it said Norma lies, only gossips alot, as most Marshvillians do as there is not much else happening there. When is something going to happen in Marshville, are you waiting for the by-pass? You need to prepare for the future.
LS Barnes

Waxhaw, NC

#24 Jun 26, 2010
Good point Jonathan Pheifer. There is no Marshville radio or TV station. Only the Home News to inform us of what is going on and it is inefficient. A lot of Marshville's citizens don't take the Home News. How are people going to find out what is going on in town? The answer is word of mouth. People passing along what they know by speaking to others. If you call that gossip I'm happy to be a gossiper and pass along important information to people.
Norma

Charlotte, NC

#25 Jun 26, 2010
blame yourselves wrote:
<quoted text>Wouldn't know if someone "leaked" information, but I personally HEARD it from Normas mouth. She was bragging to some friends that she wouldn't cut the grass until the town sent her a letter, as they do with other fine upstanding citizens. She was overheard saying that she wanted them to have to treat her as they treat everyone else. Came from her own mouth. Before you start talking you need to look around and see who is listening. If some of you folks think you know Norma, then you would know if you give her your ear for 10 minutes she will fill it with ALL kinds of gossip, some true and some imaginative.
LOL You just identified yourself. Well watch out, you are next. I am not the only owner of that property as obviously you do not know because you are "not from around here" and there were no "friends" around, just you and me, on Thursday, June 17, East Union Street in front of the Home News office and you were badmouthing a council member. You are the only one I said that to. It is amazing how totally and completely you identified yourself.

And it is true, that property is singled out by certain people and complained about, because they know I have a small interest in it. It is difficult to get anyone to mow it because of the trash, bottles and used needles littering it. What about the corner at the Dollar General Store on the highway? What about the tall grass around and behind the old Mills Amoco station on 74. Just two I noticed yesterday evening coming in from Monroe. Not to mention Greene & Hildreth, not mowed in over a year. Also, your comment about me not spending money in Marshville, because I told you the Food Lion was so crappy I go to one in Monroe. Well people, I was told by a Monroe Food Lion employee that the manager of this Food Lion was let go, so maybe our store will come back up to par now. A Wingate citizen told me Friday he was surprised at all the Marshville people in the Wingate store. Maybe we will get a good manager now and we don't have to go out of town anymore.

You eat me up to my face and then come on here using my words to slam me because I don't approve of those projects behind that lot. Those apartments were originally built to help the elderly of this town in the 1970's. They were for elderly people who could not afford housing. Now look at it, full of illegals and a gang.

I could put your name on here, but it will be much more fun to see you giving me hell on here, anonymously. At least this place is getting some comments again.

Got to get to my housework now guys. Have at it! LOL

blame yourselves

Charlotte, NC

#26 Jun 26, 2010
We were actually in a place getting our morning coffees and my wife and I were standing about 5 feet from you as you talked covering your mouth from the side. Shall I say who you were whispering this to? So whomever you are referring in front of Home News I can only imagine you have told many others as well. Be it here or there, you are correct about the other places as well. The mexican slums you must be referring to is indeed an eyesore, and should be brought up to at least standard living conditions. I believe it may be an area that gets no attention, "see no evil" kind of thing. This town needs to get on top of the properties that are lagging, and not create another 15 that will undoubtedly look the same.
blame yourselves

Charlotte, NC

#27 Jun 26, 2010
Furthermore, think about the property owner that sold the land to habitat in the first place. Do not put the blame on this town council for not doing something about the habitat homes, ask yourself why would someone sell that much land for habitat to build on in the first place. I really don't think they needed the money. Perhaps other land owners should give more thought before selling and sending Marshville deeper into a slum. so please stop blaming our elected officials.
blame yourselves

Charlotte, NC

#28 Jun 26, 2010
P.S. By the way Norma, the "for sale" sign on your property is lying down, can't sell it that way. But please, don't sell it to habitat!

Since: Sep 08

Marshville

#29 Jun 26, 2010
blame yourselves wrote:
Norma,
Tell me why more people should get out and "SEE" what is going on if they are only going to be like you? You do absolutely nothing but cause gossip, as with the habitat houses. You sit on the planning board and did nothing but bad mouth us on the fact that "your" decision had no impact, and it was all the towns fault for allowing 15 houses where poor Norma thought there should be 3 or 4. Just state the facts Norma, you don't want more blacks here, because in your mind it is the blacks and mexicans that make Marshville look like a slum. Why not just do your part as a citizen and take care of your own property to make the town look better. Does everyone know that you own that beautiful lot in front of the "mexican" apartment complex on 74? The lot where the grass is "knee high" until you are sent a letter by the town to cut it. Why not cut it regular and help make our town look better? Afterall, it is one of the first things passerbys see when they come through town. Do your part to make a small difference and others might also, instead of always stirring gossip. Run for this council and make a difference, oh, sorry, you did, and lost. Get the picture? If you ever get another chance to make a difference in Marshville, then do it with the future in mind. By the way Norma, just one of those 15 habitat homes will bring more revenue to the town than your property, in fees and in taxes, and I am sure more money to our local economy than you contribute.
Hey you....Leave Norma the He## alone. Let me tell YOU something. You need to get your freakin peole in line. He## no Marshville does NOT need these habitat houses. The VERY FIRST DAY I MOVED INTO THIS TOWN,WHICH I SO REGRET A LITTLE BLACK-BLACK-BLACK I'll say it again BLACK girl of ONLY 7 OR 8 years old stood in our driveway the VERY first day that we moved into our house and called my wife a WHITE CRACKER BITCH....The Black grown ups taught this little girl . No more...U people are Racists to the bone and u r the freakin problem.. You people get all the help and do all the damage and then pull the race card. Yes I am very pissed..Anyplace that I go into that is predominatly black is a dump. The schools drop the learning skills needed to pass for u people. You tell me...It takes 11 of you to stomp a person to death.You stab your own granny in the neck for crack money. No..No..

Like I said..Who ever you are..You leave Miss Norma alone. She speaks the truth about this dump called Marshville.. Look at all these little towns that are predominatly BLACK. All the same. Marshville will end up the same way.

Welfare has never bought me a house. What's habitat? I know what it is. Free houses to a black or mexican. Mostly black. And you don't even apreciate it.

Did I strike someone's nerve? Huh ? How bout the little BLACK girl calling my wife a white cracker bitc@? Explain that one away...

My Name is Joey
What is yours?
blame yourselves

Charlotte, NC

#30 Jun 26, 2010
A bit harsh huh Joey. But, I am not black. I am white, have been in Marshville only about 10 or so years, CHG was mayor when I arrived in Marshville, I was married in Marshville. Marshville was a different place then, now it is getting pretty bad, but not only because of the blacks and/or mexicans. The whites here are just as bad. I am sorry for your anger, wish you could direct it in a better direction, possibly for the good of Marshville. But, of course, like so many other people we just want to keep complaining about the blacks. They have been in Marshville as long as we have. and they reproduce much faster than us, so there will be more of them faster than more of us. We better learn to except them as they are, or just pack our bags and leave. We have choices.
Sweet Daddy

Wilmington, NC

#31 Jun 26, 2010
Norma wrote:
Disgruntled cop settles for $12,500
Marshville approves 15 Habitat homes
Tax rate raised to 41 cents
Whitley case to August 11
No good deed goes un-punished ;) 12,500 I would have never paid it (principle)LOL Not very much money for a life of work. August 11th 2010 could this be the real date, to the end.
blame yourselves

Charlotte, NC

#32 Jun 26, 2010
Quit dreaming....not guilty.
George Y

Waxhaw, NC

#33 Jun 27, 2010
Clearly the racial scars of the past have not fully healed. There are plenty of people of all races who are making this town look like crap. Poverty is the main cause for this, it breaches all colors and creeds. I think social programs mean well in principle but in practice often go wrong because there is no reciprocating by the people who receive the help. There should be some standard of accountability for these houses... they should be able to lose them if they dont maintain them to a certain level.. if all people are getting is something free then they feel no attachment or responsibility to it...

Since: Sep 08

Marshville

#34 Jun 27, 2010
blame yourselves wrote:
A bit harsh huh Joey. But, I am not black. I am white, have been in Marshville only about 10 or so years, CHG was mayor when I arrived in Marshville, I was married in Marshville. Marshville was a different place then, now it is getting pretty bad, but not only because of the blacks and/or mexicans. The whites here are just as bad. I am sorry for your anger, wish you could direct it in a better direction, possibly for the good of Marshville. But, of course, like so many other people we just want to keep complaining about the blacks. They have been in Marshville as long as we have. and they reproduce much faster than us, so there will be more of them faster than more of us. We better learn to except them as they are, or just pack our bags and leave. We have choices.
We have obviously accepted them don't you think? What have they produced? It's the truth. I haven't seen the whites killing their grandma's . No it ain't harsh..It's the truth.
I figured you were white anyway. Didn't word it that way but the more I thought about it the more I realized it. Who cares anyway.
It will never change. Blame it all on someone else.
blame yourselves

Charlotte, NC

#35 Jun 27, 2010
Joey, i think we are fighting the same fight, on the same team, but I think there is way too much racism in Marshville, from the blacks as well as the whites. If we could figure a way to educate them on the economy, reproduction, accountability, respect, and a few other issues, then we stand a chance to break this barrier.
When I change my hat and look from your prospective all i can see is more of the same. You are correct in what you say, but we can change it by not saying it only here, but call your council members, mayor, police, and let them know what you see and hear. It is possible they can help.
blame yourselves

Charlotte, NC

#36 Jun 27, 2010
George Y wrote:
Clearly the racial scars of the past have not fully healed. There are plenty of people of all races who are making this town look like crap. Poverty is the main cause for this, it breaches all colors and creeds. I think social programs mean well in principle but in practice often go wrong because there is no reciprocating by the people who receive the help. There should be some standard of accountability for these houses... they should be able to lose them if they dont maintain them to a certain level.. if all people are getting is something free then they feel no attachment or responsibility to it...
george, they do not get these homes for free, they make smaller payments, usually nothing down, have to stay there for a set period before selling, maintain it in some form or standard, etc. There are some demands on these folks, unfortunately no one to enforce them. Poverty has always been in Marshville. When my wife and I came here we thought we were wealthy, have a nice home on the good side of town, both have had the same jobs for over 10 years, decent pay, ect. The poor folks have always had it tough, they did not feel a change in the economy, it has always been bad for them. Racism will always be an issue until both sides can agree to change it. We have a black mayor, black councilwoman, and from what I hear they want a black Police Chief after this one retires. I have a feeling the playing field will equal out soon. At least they won't feel inferior.
Sweet Daddy

Wilmington, NC

#37 Jun 27, 2010
blame yourselves wrote:
<quoted text>george, they do not get these homes for free, they make smaller payments, usually nothing down, have to stay there for a set period before selling, maintain it in some form or standard, etc. There are some demands on these folks, unfortunately no one to enforce them. Poverty has always been in Marshville. When my wife and I came here we thought we were wealthy, have a nice home on the good side of town, both have had the same jobs for over 10 years, decent pay, ect. The poor folks have always had it tough, they did not feel a change in the economy, it has always been bad for them. Racism will always be an issue until both sides can agree to change it. We have a black mayor, black councilwoman, and from what I hear they want a black Police Chief after this one retires. I have a feeling the playing field will equal out soon. At least they won't feel inferior.
OK Blame you talk alot but you don't say much. What is your point? I really don't think you understand whom low incomes housing is for. Why don't you try again. You might want to do a little research about who buyers are for these type of homes. Sounds like you were a middle class income guy and chose to live in marshville so you could feel wealthier than the poor people who live there.LOL Poverty is all over the world and people like you dwell in all towns. I hear you talking junk to everyone but I still don't get a single point you have made can you help me?
Sweet Daddy

Wilmington, NC

#38 Jun 27, 2010
blame yourselves wrote:
Quit dreaming....not guilty.
No you will be blame on me after this date.LOL
Norma

Charlotte, NC

#39 Jun 27, 2010
blame yourselves wrote:
We were actually in a place getting our morning coffees and my wife and I were standing about 5 feet from you as you talked covering your mouth from the side. Shall I say who you were whispering this to? So whomever you are referring in front of Home News I can only imagine you have told many others as well. Be it here or there, you are correct about the other places as well. The mexican slums you must be referring to is indeed an eyesore, and should be brought up to at least standard living conditions. I believe it may be an area that gets no attention, "see no evil" kind of thing. This town needs to get on top of the properties that are lagging, and not create another 15 that will undoubtedly look the same.
That is so not true. I don't go anywhere to get morning coffee. I would not call you a liar, I would say you are out of touch with reality. I have my coffee at home and in the office, so do you work in my office?
Norma

Charlotte, NC

#40 Jun 27, 2010
blame yourselves wrote:
Furthermore, think about the property owner that sold the land to habitat in the first place. Do not put the blame on this town council for not doing something about the habitat homes, ask yourself why would someone sell that much land for habitat to build on in the first place. I really don't think they needed the money. Perhaps other land owners should give more thought before selling and sending Marshville deeper into a slum. so please stop blaming our elected officials.
I was reading in the paper about the MASSIVE tax break people get for "donating" real estate to charities. Apparently the rich Mrs. Brewer got that huge tax break, because one of our council members told me he offered her a good chunk of money for that property prior to it going to Habitat and he was going to build five houses there.

She did better practically giving it to Habitat than selling it for a profit and getting hit by capital gains. The rich get richer. The poor get flooded.

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