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Really

Grandville, MI

#270 Nov 16, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Hey Jughead ... What are you going to do a couple months from now when the website is up and running and people who previously could not buy affordable insurance, were denied and/or cancelled and they begin signing up by the millions, and the law starts working like it was designed? My money is that you'll be bitching that your junk insurance isn't working for you and you're headed either towards bankruptcy or a nursing home. Any takers?
Hey stupid, the website isn't going to be up and running in a couple of months. In fact, those that have been cancelled won't have to do anything more for another year. The person you think is sooooo smart tried to pull a dictator move and change the law with an end around and got smacked around by the Congress! Gotta hate when that happens. As I said, good for a daily laugh!
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#271 Nov 16, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Hey Jughead ... What are you going to do a couple months from now when the website is up and running and people who previously could not buy affordable insurance, were denied and/or cancelled and they begin signing up by the millions, and the law starts working like it was designed? My money is that you'll be bitching that your junk insurance isn't working for you and you're headed either towards bankruptcy or a nursing home. Any takers?
A couple months from now? LOL!!!! Is that the new goal for Humpty.com 2.0?

Since we're playing hypotheticals here:

What are you going to do a couple months from now when the site is still f'd up, Obama's changed the rules a few more times, and millions of Americans forced to replace their health insurance with far more expensive policies are making the democrats scurry from SS Humpty?

I suspect you'll be right back here demanding that another two months from now everything will be better.

You stupid lemming continue to fall for the democrats insistence that they "just need to do a little more and then you'll get your free stuff and it'll be like Christmas all year long".

How about this? You politely shut the hell up for the next two months and IF the Utopian scenario you keep expecting the government to magically create come to be you can come back and tell us all how right you were.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#272 Nov 16, 2013
Really wrote:
Well, since you were sooooooo terribly busy using Fox News for the McRib faux outrage, perhaps you should try them for the lastest numbers on the doctors who are either quitting or retiring AND the hospitals that are not going to participate with Obamacare???
Indeed. Recent surveys showed that nearly half of the doctors polled are not participating with Obamacare plans. Top hospitals have opted out. Nearly one third of doctors will not accept new Medicaid patients and many doctors (more than half polled) are considering retiring in the next 5 years or considerably cutting back their hours.
Not only is Obamacare causing millions to lose their insurance, it's causing a serious brain drain in the medical profession. Experienced doctors are exiting the profession leaving less experienced (and a much lower number of doctors overall) to treat a growing patient pool.
Train. Wreck. In. Progress.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#273 Nov 16, 2013
Right wing cyber attacks on Healthcare.gov website confirmed.

Roberta Stempfley highlighted one successful attack that is designed to deny access to the website called a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. A DDoS attack is designed to make a network unavailable to intended users, generally through a concerted effort to disrupt service such as repeatedly accessing the servers, saturating them with more traffic than the website is designed to handle.

Right wingers have been distributing the link to the necessary tools to perform the attacks on the Healthcare.gov website through social networking, as pointed out by Information Week, and other websites .

http://www.examiner.com/article/right-wing-cy...
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#274 Nov 16, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Right wing cyber attacks on Healthcare.gov website confirmed.
Roberta Stempfley highlighted one successful attack that is designed to deny access to the website called a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. A DDoS attack is designed to make a network unavailable to intended users, generally through a concerted effort to disrupt service such as repeatedly accessing the servers, saturating them with more traffic than the website is designed to handle.
Right wingers have been distributing the link to the necessary tools to perform the attacks on the Healthcare.gov website through social networking, as pointed out by Information Week, and other websites .
http://www.examiner.com/article/right-wing-cy...
Oh NOOOOO!!!!!!! The faux outrage that you must be feeling right now ....

Somehow it was inevitable the left would get around to blaming their non-functional Humpty site on "right wingers". Leave it to someone who calls herself "pipedream" to carry the torch. LOL

Bring a few of these so-called "confirmed" right wingers into custody and then we'll do more than just roll our eyes at liberals' never-ending exhibition of political retardation.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#275 Nov 16, 2013
Rachel Maddow Exposes GOP Obstructionism, While Media Is Shocked By Democratic Bipartisanship

Conservatives have been hammering at President Obama for having promised that anyone who wants to keep their health care plan would be able to do so after the implementation of ObamaCare. That turned out not to be entirely accurate. Although, for the most part, those who would lose access to their existing plans would gain access to better, cheaper plans, there would be a few for whom that would not hold true.

Republicans took great joy in blasting the President over this anomaly that probably affects only 3% of the population, dismissing the fact that ObamaCare will benefit tens of millions more than it allegedly harms. They demanded that he take remedial action to permit people who have plans they like to keep them. So Obama announced that he would do just that, which led Republicans to criticize him for doing precisely what they asked.

http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/...
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#276 Nov 16, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Rachel Maddow Exposes GOP Obstructionism, While Media Is Shocked By Democratic Bipartisanship
Conservatives have been hammering at President Obama for having promised that anyone who wants to keep their health care plan would be able to do so after the implementation of ObamaCare. That turned out not to be entirely accurate. Although, for the most part, those who would lose access to their existing plans would gain access to better, cheaper plans, there would be a few for whom that would not hold true.
Republicans took great joy in blasting the President over this anomaly that probably affects only 3% of the population, dismissing the fact that ObamaCare will benefit tens of millions more than it allegedly harms. They demanded that he take remedial action to permit people who have plans they like to keep them. So Obama announced that he would do just that, which led Republicans to criticize him for doing precisely what they asked.
http://www.newscorpse.com/ncWP/...
Your own link proves Obama a liar...

"Although, for the most part, those who would lose access to their existing plans would gain access to better, cheaper plans, there would be a few for whom that would not hold true."

Are you really this stupid?
Phil

Ortonville, MI

#277 Nov 16, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>Your own link proves Obama a liar...

"Although, for the most part, those who would lose access to their existing plans would gain access to better, cheaper plans, there would be a few for whom that would not hold true."

Are you really this stupid?
The answer is clearly proven time and time again yes he is that stupid.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#278 Nov 16, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
Your own link proves Obama a liar...
"Although, for the most part, those who would lose access to their existing plans would gain access to better, cheaper plans, there would be a few for whom that would not hold true."
Are you really this stupid?
How does it prove him a liar? Show us O-no-balls how you know Obama intentionally lied about anything. You are definitely a broken record.

I'm happy you have completely lost it again Oh-no balls. Its hilarious to see you and crazy friends on here coming a part at the seams. Your padded cell is ready. You'll have lots of company.
Sassy

Rochester, MI

#279 Nov 16, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
How does it prove him a liar? Show us O-no-balls how you know Obama intentionally lied about anything. You are definitely a broken record.
I'm happy you have completely lost it again Oh-no balls. Its hilarious to see you and crazy friends on here coming a part at the seams. Your padded cell is ready. You'll have lots of company.
I'm sorry that your father raped you when you were a child. Must have been a traumatic experience.
Really

Grandville, MI

#280 Nov 17, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Right wing cyber attacks on Healthcare.gov website confirmed.
Roberta Stempfley highlighted one successful attack that is designed to deny access to the website called a Distributed Denial of Service (DDoS) attack. A DDoS attack is designed to make a network unavailable to intended users, generally through a concerted effort to disrupt service such as repeatedly accessing the servers, saturating them with more traffic than the website is designed to handle.
Right wingers have been distributing the link to the necessary tools to perform the attacks on the Healthcare.gov website through social networking, as pointed out by Information Week, and other websites .
http://www.examiner.com/article/right-wing-cy...
Sorry, can't answer this seriously since I am laughing so hard I have tears! You just keep getting better and better, but you are NOT a good whine. LOL
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#281 Nov 17, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
How does it prove him a liar? Show us O-no-balls how you know Obama intentionally lied about anything. You are definitely a broken record.
I'm happy you have completely lost it again Oh-no balls. Its hilarious to see you and crazy friends on here coming a part at the seams. Your padded cell is ready. You'll have lots of company.
(I'll ignore the irony of someone with a chronic fixation on man-parts accusing others of broken record-ism.)

OK, you asked me to prove my case. Here goes:

Obama vowed to the American people repeatedly , "if you like your current insurance ... if you like your current doctor ... you can keep him". Even when challenged publicly on this point by Tea Party supporters he insisted, sometimes arrogantly, that "you could keep your current insurance if you were happy with it". That much is indisputable.

Well before Obama came along, conservatives understood that any government-based health care initiative would cause people to have to change their insurance. We stated that when Hillary Clinton tried her hand at changing our health care system. It's always been one of the arguments we've used as reason to oppose such legislation.

Therefore, it can also be indisputable that the democrats, including Obama, would have knowledge of at least that challenge to any bill they created, whether they believed it to be true or not. One would think they'd have concocted a plan to make sure that a contentious vow like "you can keep your insurance" would be defendable. So, the fact Obama promised you could keep your insurance, but did nothing to address the reality in his own legislation that we all predicted, leaves us with two unfortunate choices:

Humpty's either a liar or he's just plain ignorant. Based on his own words and actions I contend there's no alternative.

Now, if you can contrive an intelligent counter to that argument, sans silly insults and gay fixations, that offers another choice in this matter, I'll listen. Good luck!
Really

Grandville, MI

#282 Nov 17, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
(I'll ignore the irony of someone with a chronic fixation on man-parts accusing others of broken record-ism.)
OK, you asked me to prove my case. Here goes:
Obama vowed to the American people repeatedly , "if you like your current insurance ... if you like your current doctor ... you can keep him". Even when challenged publicly on this point by Tea Party supporters he insisted, sometimes arrogantly, that "you could keep your current insurance if you were happy with it". That much is indisputable.
Well before Obama came along, conservatives understood that any government-based health care initiative would cause people to have to change their insurance. We stated that when Hillary Clinton tried her hand at changing our health care system. It's always been one of the arguments we've used as reason to oppose such legislation.
Therefore, it can also be indisputable that the democrats, including Obama, would have knowledge of at least that challenge to any bill they created, whether they believed it to be true or not. One would think they'd have concocted a plan to make sure that a contentious vow like "you can keep your insurance" would be defendable. So, the fact Obama promised you could keep your insurance, but did nothing to address the reality in his own legislation that we all predicted, leaves us with two unfortunate choices:
Humpty's either a liar or he's just plain ignorant. Based on his own words and actions I contend there's no alternative.
Now, if you can contrive an intelligent counter to that argument, sans silly insults and gay fixations, that offers another choice in this matter, I'll listen. Good luck!
That is a very large IF! LOL
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Fenton, MI

#283 Nov 17, 2013
Sassy wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sorry that your father raped you when you were a child. Must have been a traumatic experience.
I told him to drink whiskey and not sperm. Some habits must die hard.....
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#285 Nov 17, 2013
No, Obama didn’t lie to you about your health care plan

Terminated policies were introduced after ACA's passing -- often with insurers' knowledge they'd be scrapped

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/15/no_obama_didn...
Really

Grandville, MI

#286 Nov 18, 2013
pipedream wrote:
No, Obama didn’t lie to you about your health care plan
Terminated policies were introduced after ACA's passing -- often with insurers' knowledge they'd be scrapped
http://www.salon.com/2013/11/15/no_obama_didn...
Whatever there Pipester. And your progressive rag sheet would never lie to you either.
Ron

United States

#287 Nov 18, 2013
pipedream wrote:
No, Obama didn’t lie to you about your health care plan

Terminated policies were introduced after ACA's passing -- often with insurers' knowledge they'd be scrapped

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/15/no_obama_didn...
You have got to be one of the dumbest Left-wingers out there. Just when I think you can't say anything dumber, there you go again.
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#288 Nov 18, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Terminated policies were introduced after ACA's passing -- often with insurers' knowledge they'd be scrapped
http
And those that wrote the law knew the same thing. Try looking a little farther back at Hillary's first proposed healthcare plan. Lawmakers have known since that time that anything the government mandated would have this result.
Sad that you're slurped so much Kool Aid that you can't tell fact from fiction any longer and you're seemingly incapable of doing any research on your own, relying instead on a steady diet of whatever your liberal handlers choose to feed you from day to day. I pity you.
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#289 Nov 18, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Terminated policies were introduced after ACA's passing -- often with insurers' knowledge they'd be scrapped
Oh...and insurers have no choice but to follow the law...a law they did not make, pass or have much (if any) say in. The responsibiity for this train wreck rests solely on the shoulders of the dbag party that forced it down the throats of America and then refused to compromise any part of it until it blew up in their smug, arrogrant faces. You all made your bed...now it's time to lay in it.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#290 Nov 18, 2013
free thinker wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh...and insurers have no choice but to follow the law...a law they did not make, pass or have much (if any) say in. The responsibiity for this train wreck rests solely on the shoulders of the dbag party that forced it down the throats of America and then refused to compromise any part of it until it blew up in their smug, arrogrant faces. You all made your bed...now it's time to lay in it.
lol. Wrong again lil stinker. Like I said, you have Five choices. Here they are again.

1. Try and keep your junk health policy (it was junk or the insurance company would not be cancelling it);

2. buy one from the insurer that meets the standards;

3. shop for one on the exchange;

4. go with out(and assume all the inherent risks that goes with that).

5. Try to get hired by an employer that offers a par plan.

Its that simple lil stinker. What don't you understand about that?

Never mind don't even try to explain that.

I already know you're too stupid to understand it.

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