Verizon phone records for the last 6 years

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Maxwell Brown

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Verizon phone records for the last 6 years have been given to the government. Nice! What is tomorrow's surprise? I can't wait!

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Jun 7, 2013
 
Up next is the stuff you posed on internet. The NSA has been collecting material including search history, the content of emails, file transfers and live chats for years now.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/u...
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Wow!

Even that other President wouldn't have dared to promote a program to spy on average citizens.....
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Bob wrote:
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Even that other President wouldn't have dared to promote a program to spy on average citizens.....
Maybe, but it took THIS president to expand it to spy on ALL citizens. Hope you haven't said anything incriminating on the phone in the past 6 years...or on the internet...or in your personal emails, for that matter.
Maybe they'll share that information with your bosses so they'll know how much time you've been spending on Topix when you should be working? Uh oh....
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Isn't it so typically hypocritical that the person who is now POTUS, was vehemently against the Patriot Act under Bush but then he turns around and expands it far beyond what the originator every intended or had in mind as soon as he got the chance. Hypocritical? Yes. Surprising? Hardly. What else should we expect from the product of Chicago politics?
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vox veritatis wrote:
Isn't it so typically hypocritical that the person who is now POTUS, was vehemently against the Patriot Act under Bush but then he turns around and expands it far beyond what the originator every intended or had in mind as soon as he got the chance. Hypocritical? Yes. Surprising? Hardly. What else should we expect from the product of Chicago politics?
Yup, almost as hypocritical as the people who didn't see any problem with it until the current administration decided to use it!

Buddy!
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Bob wrote:
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Yup, almost as hypocritical as the people who didn't see any problem with it until the current administration decided to use it!
Buddy!
Bush took grief from all sides for that, Bob, you damned fool. The difference between what he did and what Obama's administration are doing are obvious and glaringly alarming to anyone who isn't so politically retarded they would forgive an even greater attack on our privacy simply because the president isn't a white republican.

Liberals are dumber than a bag of hammers.
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-po...

The author of the PATRIOT Act, Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., now states that the Obama administration's recent phone record grab of hundreds of millions of Americans violates the law. His claims are that the law was never intended to spy on citizens who the government has no reason to believe is involved in terrorist communications.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/06/au...

Obama chose to extend the PATRIOT Act, despite campaign promises to revisit the law with the intent of ensuring American citizens' right's would not be violated.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/05/27/se...

The liberal's usual ploy of blaming Bush isn't going to work on this one. Obama extended the PATRIOT Act. Obama supported the PATRIOT Act. Obama now OWNS the PATRIOT Act - an any infringement on American citizens' rights under the name of the PATRIOT Act during Obama's presidency is his to answer for.
Maxwell Brown

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vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>Maybe, but it took THIS president to expand it to spy on ALL citizens. Hope you haven't said anything incriminating on the phone in the past 6 years...or on the internet...or in your personal emails, for that matter.
Maybe they'll share that information with your bosses so they'll know how much time you've been spending on Topix when you should be working? Uh oh....
The Rainbow Club don't care as long as he can bring the men in with his dancing skills.

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It's interesting to see all the anger and unqualified claims and exemptions regarding this issue.
This started during the Bush administration (neatly exempted from this thread thusfar) and because of the secrecy involved, we will probably never know to what extent either Bush or Obama allowed this practice to go on. I'd expect future Presidents to follow the same path.
That being said, if the guidelines that are supposed to be in place are followed, American citizens have nothing to fear. They are supposed to be looking for specific contacts to known phone numbers that are associated with questionable people.
Unfortunately, because of this leak to the press, the bad guys will certainly now switch phones or use different methods to communicate.
I'm going to duck now from the hail of insults and unreasonable accusations that are about to be thrown my way.
Have a nice day all!!!
Rob

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Mr Wiggley wrote:
It's interesting to see all the anger and unqualified claims and exemptions regarding this issue.
This started during the Bush administration (neatly exempted from this thread thusfar) and because of the secrecy involved, we will probably never know to what extent either Bush or Obama allowed this practice to go on. I'd expect future Presidents to follow the same path.
That being said, if the guidelines that are supposed to be in place are followed, American citizens have nothing to fear. They are supposed to be looking for specific contacts to known phone numbers that are associated with questionable people.
Unfortunately, because of this leak to the press, the bad guys will certainly now switch phones or use different methods to communicate.
I'm going to duck now from the hail of insults and unreasonable accusations that are about to be thrown my way.
Have a nice day all!!!
You can run, but you can't hide Jason! Lol!! All your racist venom hate against Jews and gays, death threats against other posters and Wayne, and others has already been archived for the last six years. There is some good that could come from all this. I hope they get your number. Yes have a nice day Jason. Lol!!
Rob

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Mr Wiggley wrote:
It's interesting to see all the anger and unqualified claims and exemptions regarding this issue.
This started during the Bush administration (neatly exempted from this thread thusfar) and because of the secrecy involved, we will probably never know to what extent either Bush or Obama allowed this practice to go on. I'd expect future Presidents to follow the same path.
That being said, if the guidelines that are supposed to be in place are followed, American citizens have nothing to fear. They are supposed to be looking for specific contacts to known phone numbers that are associated with questionable people.
Unfortunately, because of this leak to the press, the bad guys will certainly now switch phones or use different methods to communicate.
I'm going to duck now from the hail of insults and unreasonable accusations that are about to be thrown my way.
Have a nice day all!!!
I'll just add Obama has increased invasion of our privacy a great deal. There is no such comparison between him and Bush.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

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Once again, opposed to the Constitution....

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Rob wrote:
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You can run, but you can't hide Jason! Lol!! All your racist venom hate against Jews and gays, death threats against other posters and Wayne, and others has already been archived for the last six years. There is some good that could come from all this. I hope they get your number. Yes have a nice day Jason. Lol!!
I have no idea what you are referring to but I do hope you have your "Boogy-Man" shields up tonight.
Who is Jason??
Rob

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Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>I have no idea what you are referring to but I do hope you have your "Boogy-Man" shields up tonight.
Who is Jason??
You and your many names Boogy-man. Which is your stage name when you dance? Or do you rotate your names?

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You and your many names Boogy-man. Which is your stage name when you dance? Or do you rotate your names?
Show where I have posted under a different name or take your credibility with you down the drain.
I have no need to post under any different name and you have no evidence that I have ever done so...because I have not.
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
if the guidelines that are supposed to be in place are followed, American citizens have nothing to fear.
So I take it, then, that you supported the Patriot Act since the time of Bush? If not, how about you explain to the class why you are choosing to support it now in it's greatly expanded and infinitely more invasive form.
It's interesting to watch all the lemming useful idiots trot out in single file with the "Bush started it, blah, blah, blah" and support something that they were foaming at the mouth over 7 years ago just because the guy behind it has a 'D' behind his name.
Nothing to fear? OMG...if you truly believe that you are a far bigger fool that I gave you credit for and that's saying something. Nothing to fear from the government who brought us lie after lie (Benghazi, Fast and Furious, etc...), directed IRS employees to single out groups that might be opposed to the current POTUS for unfair scrutiny and delay of their applications, engaged in intimidation of reporters by violating their privacy and refuses to help when parents of a child who is dying appeal to them? That said, I don't fear the government but I certainly don't trust them. They have lost all credibility for being FOR the people....ALL the people, not just the ones they happen to like which seems to be a trademark of progressives. I'll leave you with a quote:
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."---Thomas Jefferson
I think it's time the government started to fear the people again.
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<quoted text>Show where I have posted under a different name or take your credibility with you down the drain.
I have no need to post under any different name and you have no evidence that I have ever done so...because I have not.
Hahahahahaha!! Your funny Jason :)
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Mr Wiggley wrote:
It's interesting to see all the anger and unqualified claims and exemptions regarding this issue.
This started during the Bush administration (neatly exempted from this thread thusfar) and because of the secrecy involved, we will probably never know to what extent either Bush or Obama allowed this practice to go on. I'd expect future Presidents to follow the same path.
That being said, if the guidelines that are supposed to be in place are followed, American citizens have nothing to fear. They are supposed to be looking for specific contacts to known phone numbers that are associated with questionable people.
Unfortunately, because of this leak to the press, the bad guys will certainly now switch phones or use different methods to communicate.
I'm going to duck now from the hail of insults and unreasonable accusations that are about to be thrown my way.
Have a nice day all!!!
If you had read my post you would have seen that I DID indeed include not only Bush's involvement but the name of one of the key authors of the PATRIOT Act. I also clearly explained and cited articles showing the it was Obama's decision to extend it, and his quotes prove he supports the PATRIOT Act, therefore your typical liberal "blame Bush" tactic won't work here. Not that it stopped you from trying.

You'll duck out alright, like a little coward, and wait obediently while Obama's spin doctors create the next round of talking points to try and deflect any blame from the administration of corruption.

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vox veritatis wrote:
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So I take it, then, that you supported the Patriot Act since the time of Bush? If not, how about you explain to the class why you are choosing to support it now in it's greatly expanded and infinitely more invasive form.
It's interesting to watch all the lemming useful idiots trot out in single file with the "Bush started it, blah, blah, blah" and support something that they were foaming at the mouth over 7 years ago just because the guy behind it has a 'D' behind his name.
Nothing to fear? OMG...if you truly believe that you are a far bigger fool that I gave you credit for and that's saying something. Nothing to fear from the government who brought us lie after lie (Benghazi, Fast and Furious, etc...), directed IRS employees to single out groups that might be opposed to the current POTUS for unfair scrutiny and delay of their applications, engaged in intimidation of reporters by violating their privacy and refuses to help when parents of a child who is dying appeal to them? That said, I don't fear the government but I certainly don't trust them. They have lost all credibility for being FOR the people....ALL the people, not just the ones they happen to like which seems to be a trademark of progressives. I'll leave you with a quote:
"When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty."---Thomas Jefferson
I think it's time the government started to fear the people again.
Talk about idiots...in one sentence you call me a fool for not fearing the government then later you say YOU don't fear the government either.
You are truely one confusing "fool" to try to converse with. At least you labeled yourself a "fool" not me.

PS...I have never ever said I trust the government either...fool.

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