Four die in house fire

[Constitutional Mark]

Any chance we don't have to watch the stupid commercials prior to stories like this?

tom wrote:

a very, very sad tragedy.
no smoke alarm? a shame because it saves lives.
by the way, re: fire dept: how come the house always burns down, and people are seldom, if ever, saved. if electricity is an issue, aren't there measures to avert or avoid that obstacle?
I appreciate your efforts, so please don't every volunteer fireman respond in a p*ssed off way.
others wonder about the same thing.

It's hard to say Tom, but I can guarantee that they did their best to get in to attempt a rescue.

But if the house is electrified, it is impossible to know what might electrocute you as you make your way through the house. Normally, FF's will not wait to perform an interior attack until the power is off and there is a chance of electrocution at any time there as well. But if the power line to the house was burned through and touching the house, there's a much great chance of electrocution, even spraying water. If a department is fortunate, they may have a Consumers employee on staff, but most of the time we need to wait until the power company arrives. Electricity is scary stuff. Throw in the electrocution they just had out there, and I'm sure they were being especially cautious.

And with that much fire, it is very hard to make entry due to heat. It can also be unsafe due to possible collapse or holes in the floor if the fire started in the basement. This is much more of an issue with the new 'silent floors'. They are firefighter killers as is all lightweight construction.

And I know the family and friends are grieving, say a prayer for the FF's as well, it is never easy to go through a situation like this, wondering if you could have done more in addition to just knowing that people died, no matter the situation upon arrival.

[tim]

To the commenter of this
a very, very sad tragedy.
no smoke alarm? a shame because it saves lives.
by the way, re: fire dept: how come the house always burns down, and people are seldom, if ever, saved. if electricity is an issue, aren't there measures to avert or avoid that obstacle?
I appreciate your efforts, so please don't every volunteer fireman respond in a p*ssed off way.
others wonder about the same thing.
Look at the picture the house is not burnt down it is still standing.
Any firefighter would do just about anything to save a human life if it is savable. firefighters are trained to do such a thing but they also know when it is to dangerous for them to enter a burning structure. They also can do many things to stop the electric but as said in the interviews with the chief the house was energized also anyone in first grade would know water and electric dont mix and if you have firefighters getting shock there is not much you can do until the power is cut.

[Kristina]

My heart and prayers go out to everyone affected by this unexpected tragedy. They were wonderful people and I will miss them so much. Everyone stay strong. They would have wanted us to.

[Outsider]

Now the GR Press is reporting that the deceased were homicide victims before the fire.

[OleWhatsHerName]

Outsider wrote:

Now the GR Press is reporting that the deceased were homicide victims before the fire.

Unfortunately, this makes more sense than to think at least one of these teenagers or the mom couldn't get out......just when you think it can not get any worse! My thoughts are also with the family, friends and neighbors of these folks!

[Hotelgal]

Now they are saying they were murdered, how crappy is that, why in the world would someone want to kill 4 people?? Who ever did this was hoping they were going to burn up and no one would ever know it was murder but they were able to get autopsy results..thank goodness for that much. I am so sorry for these 4 inocent people's family & friends.
Hopefully it won't take long to find the person(s)who did this horrific crime and get them locked up.

[michael g]

Outsider wrote:

Now the GR Press is reporting that the deceased were homicide victims before the fire.

Wow, if that's true that's a shock. I wouldn't think it would take long to figure out who did it.

[nearby]

We just got word that it was homicide. Does anyone have any information regarding this?

[Gentle Taz]

http://www.mlive.com/grpress/news/index.ssf/2...

[EmmaRae]

This so sad. Why would someone do something like this?

[Jaden Roze]

What is wrong with people? There are too many crazy people out there makes me scared to let my children out of sight. But hell her children were home. Isn't anywhere safe anymore? My thoughts are with this family.

[sad but true]

knew this family and it was pretty obvious it was homicide from the start, no one could escape, and then they exumed the 4th body jeremys girlfriend at a later time, but in the beginning they assumed they had been sleeping, why weren't they by eachother sleeping if she was visiting? my dreaded suspicions were correct..........find this person who could commit such a horrific crime, may god be with this family and may he have mercy on the soul of the murderer

[pheileenluv]

I heard there was a family pet (German Shepherd)and it had come up missing, otherwise it is believed it would have tried to alert the family. Does anyone know if this dog was full-blooded or when it came up missing? The only reason I ask is that I had one dropped off in my yard two months ago and have been unable to locate an owner.

[Just a question]

Is anyone as outraged about this as the incident that happened in GR??
Or was this a stand up guy?

[Andrea]

As a fellow coopersville student my heart goes out to you! Together we can get through this with prayer and faith! love you all

[pheileenluv]

I was told that the German Shepherd's name is Rosco.

[marne resident]

turns out it was a hommicide...... :(

[Jessica Schiebout]

My thoughts and prayers go out to everyone involved. My little brother was friends with Jeremy and none of this makes any sense. They were all great people and will be deeply missed by all. We will always love you and never forget you Sharm, Jeremy, Tyler, and Katherine.

[johnNYV]

DiannaZ wrote:

My heart is aching so much. I have known this family my entire life. My God My God, how can this happen! This family has been dealt so much. Please, please pray for them. My thoughts are with the family right now. I'm so sorry...

WHO MAY YOU BE Z AS IN FROM NEAR THE GRAVEL PIT

Where off RT. 45 is this and Might they have gone to the S----- Christain reform Ch. sorry for got the town name.. Yes I also send my prayers.. Cooperstown area and Carrying

not sand lake NY but NY

[johnNYV]

sad but true wrote:

knew this family and it was pretty obvious it was homicide from the start, no one could escape, and then they exumed the 4th body jeremys girlfriend at a later time, but in the beginning they assumed they had been sleeping, why weren't they by eachother sleeping if she was visiting? my dreaded suspicions were correct..........find this person who could commit such a horrific crime, may god be with this family and may he have mercy on the soul of the murderer

Losing Four A Fire Score.

The lesson is to learn,
and not to burn.
Life always makes a bitter turn,
for all concerned.
God still has his reason,
and control to all including every season.
Fire does take lives,
the unfortunate don’t survive.
Yet Firemen train,
and practice thinking always with a brain.
Still sometimes things can’t be done,
but other times the battle is won.
We should always care,
and share--
--that deep dark grief!
Yet the relief,
sometimes just doesn’t seem to come,
at least not for some.
What lesson is to be learned,
stopping fires from a fatal burn.
To think and Prevent,
in a every resident.
Every neighborhoods possible site,
and they happen day and night..
If someone doesn’t have an alarm,
the gift could be a life given charm.
Remember it’s a gift that gives,
and helps others stay alive and live.
If your friend or someone unknown has a baby
Give an alarm you just might save someone, just maybe!!
A perfect gift to someone unknown that just gave birth.
Think what is a life worth.?!
Even more,
this for sure!
Help your safety saving volunteers,
and save even yourself from tears.
To the family of the four.
God’s Grace , prayers and so much more.
I know what the firemen do,
and so should you.
Here in New York my brother worked a dairy farm,
and still found time to answers EMT and Fire alarms.
He was dedicated to his fire squad
and he still able to plow fields--turning sod.
My Brother, and family members all volunteer their time.
It’s a shame that this fire might have been a crime.
Once upon a time I lived there,
and truthfully their grief I share.

by:

JohnNYV

Hartwick, NY