Really

Grandville, MI

#47 Mar 5, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't care if you believe it or not Really I figured this out LONG before Obama said anything about it.
None of us makes it all on our own. There is much we can and should do to help ourselves but in the end there are others who are part of our lives good or bad that we may not even see.
Nice play on words. Would be really, really nice if you clowns would take everyone at their word instead of calling everyone a liar and stupid. Nice quote from Obama by the way.
Jimbo

Grand Rapids, MI

#48 Mar 5, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =hVAaLRUxX5AXX
Of course he cant do it by himself but if he could he would. No matter what action is taken no matter what is banned or laws changed it will never be enough for the rabid anti gun groups.
It used to be the bane of society was the Saturday night special a six shot revolver and they said the same thing "there is no reason why anyone needs these guns" now its a different gun but the same words.
It was Reagan who said that about the Saturday Night Specials. Was Reagan a member of a rabid anti gun group?

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#49 Mar 5, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
I would like to see that speech. Anyway if he said it he is wrong of course. Now there are those who will call me clueless and a nut and say I did not do this on my own. I took a job in 2007 in Grand Rapids with the knowing that this company had a branch in Traverse City. After careful thought and patience and learning the job, after five years I met the right person and two months later in Dec 2011 I found myself working in Traverse City. Now no doubt with the help of a few friends I moved. I sold my home in Grand Rapids bought a home here in T C and have a new fresh life, with not one person from the government helping me I really did it on my own. It took guts patience and fortitude to accomplish what I have done. It was not easy but for the most part it was me an individual with foreknowledge of what I was about to do and I did not have to ask anyone.
T.C. is nice,.... I love it up there!
I have family up north of there.
The company I work for, also has a branch up there, but right now, no chance to transfer up there. Hopefully, someday.
Modes Bumm Steer has the best steaks!
I love it up there!
Congrat's on your moving up there.
SWEET!
I hope to do the same someday.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#50 Mar 5, 2013
Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
It was Reagan who said that about the Saturday Night Specials. Was Reagan a member of a rabid anti gun group?
I don't think Reagan was the guy who created that term seeing as though it was a term used in the 1960s mostly came out of New York.

Hmm found the origin and its not Reagan. From Wikipedia

"The earliest known use of the term "Saturday night special" in print is in the August 17, 1968 issue of the New York Times"

The fact remains different gun same words by the same anti gun politicians Ronald Reagan was not an anti gun politician in the same ranks as Schumer Feindstein Boxer Biden and of course BHO himself .

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#51 Mar 5, 2013
Jimbo wrote:
<quoted text>
It was Reagan who said that about the Saturday Night Specials. Was Reagan a member of a rabid anti gun group?
And if memory serves me correct Reagan was shot with a .22 revolver and I don't remember the call to ban .22 revolvers..Not even by the man who was shot the President himself.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Farmington, MI

#52 Mar 5, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>I don't think Reagan was the guy who created that term seeing as though it was a term used in the 1960s mostly came out of New York.
Hmm found the origin and its not Reagan. From Wikipedia
"The earliest known use of the term "Saturday night special" in print is in the August 17, 1968 issue of the New York Times"
The fact remains different gun same words by the same anti gun politicians Ronald Reagan was not an anti gun politician in the same ranks as Schumer Feindstein Boxer Biden and of course BHO himself .
Yeah, I remember the Reagan speech about the SNS. They were defined as cheap to buy street gun and almost all stolen.... The .22 pistols are cheap to use and small and used for hits. Responsible for more deaths than any other......
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#53 Mar 5, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>And if memory serves me correct Reagan was shot with a .22 revolver and I don't remember the call to ban .22 revolvers..Not even by the man who was shot the President himself.
Remember the push for the Brady Act after the assassination attempt on Reagan and being signed into law by Clinton?

The point being as long as there are crazies out there to shoot people up there is going to be a push by the people to restrict their access and usage.

I would think the NRA would be as adamant about gun safety and responsibility of ownership as they used to be. As of the last several years they have gone limp on it though.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#55 Mar 6, 2013
You're right Edna!

They sure didn't take any help from Uncle Sam.....

http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/i...

"In 1996, when Dave Engbers and Mike Stevens were looking for a location to open a microbrewery, the decision to open in the Brass Works Building was easy because, says Stevens,“it was the cheapest place in town.”

Why? Well, partly because of a now-expired Renaissance Zone tax credit that saved Founders Brewing Co.$20,000 to $25,000 in annual state and local business taxes at the time on their former location at 648 Monroe Ave. NW."

Yup, they did it all by themselves!

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#56 Mar 6, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
Remember the push for the Brady Act after the assassination attempt on Reagan and being signed into law by Clinton?
The point being as long as there are crazies out there to shoot people up there is going to be a push by the people to restrict their access and usage.
I would think the NRA would be as adamant about gun safety and responsibility of ownership as they used to be. As of the last several years they have gone limp on it though.
Now I remember duh, the Brady Bill thanks for jogging me, but see I am right different gun same words. "Nobody needs these type of weapons all they are made for is killing people" The rhetoric from the left never changes that is why I cant stand them really they all think they know better what is good for us. Come on SIB though I am not a member of the NRA now I was I used to get the American Rifleman until I found the perfect hunting rifle, but they are about gun safety but they also fight the silly stuff that the government wants to do to guns like they do to cars. And other devices you can only make things so safe. By the way IMO the safest gun is a revolver easy to use easy to tell if it is loaded easy to clean I own three.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#57 Mar 6, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>And if memory serves me correct Reagan was shot with a .22 revolver and I don't remember the call to ban .22 revolvers..Not even by the man who was shot the President himself.
If I remember correctly, it was the ammunition used that caused the biggest flap.

http://www.nytimes.com/1981/04/03/us/explosiv...

Devastator Bullets, that shatter upon hitting their target. Only one of many specialty rounds that technology has brought about, some of which even the cops don't like. Teflon coated bullets comes to mind.
Really

Grandville, MI

#58 Mar 6, 2013
Bob wrote:
You're right Edna!
They sure didn't take any help from Uncle Sam.....
http://www.mlive.com/business/west-michigan/i...
"In 1996, when Dave Engbers and Mike Stevens were looking for a location to open a microbrewery, the decision to open in the Brass Works Building was easy because, says Stevens,“it was the cheapest place in town.”
Why? Well, partly because of a now-expired Renaissance Zone tax credit that saved Founders Brewing Co.$20,000 to $25,000 in annual state and local business taxes at the time on their former location at 648 Monroe Ave. NW."
Yup, they did it all by themselves!
And you got your "Master's Degree" in BS while on unemployment? And your point was what besides it's wrong for business to receive tax breaks that are in the law and it's okay for you and others to live off the government dole? Whatever Bob, your stupidity grows by leaps and bounds.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#59 Mar 6, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>And you got your "Master's Degree" in BS while on unemployment? And your point was what besides it's wrong for business to receive tax breaks that are in the law and it's okay for you and others to live off the government dole? Whatever Bob, your stupidity grows by leaps and bounds.
Fortunately, you steadfast state of denial remains unshaken!

No matter how much proof is given, please continue to think that business does it all by itself!
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#60 Mar 6, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>Now I remember duh, the Brady Bill thanks for jogging me, but see I am right different gun same words. "Nobody needs these type of weapons all they are made for is killing people" The rhetoric from the left never changes that is why I cant stand them really they all think they know better what is good for us. Come on SIB though I am not a member of the NRA now I was I used to get the American Rifleman until I found the perfect hunting rifle, but they are about gun safety but they also fight the silly stuff that the government wants to do to guns like they do to cars. And other devices you can only make things so safe. By the way IMO the safest gun is a revolver easy to use easy to tell if it is loaded easy to clean I own three.
I don't mean it should be used as an excuse. But the fact is every firearm ever produced has been for the purpose of killing. Not mean to drive nails into wood. Not meant to plow a field. Not meant for any other purpose than to kill. It could be for hunting but none-the-less meant to kill.

I am saying the NRA used to be about rational gun ownership and use. They are not so much any more. I stopped being a member many years ago when they were moving it more off to the sidelines.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#61 Mar 6, 2013
Oh ya, did you see where the NRA has now become a sponsor of NASCAR?
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/business/2013/...

I question why an organization would become a sponsor of, well, most anything other than gun related sports.

I wonder if now instead of drivers just bumping into rival cars when they are ticked at em they will now pull a gun on em. High velocity road rage on an all new scale. LOL
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#62 Mar 6, 2013
correction: I question why an organization like the NRA would become a sponsor of, well, most anything other than gun related sports.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#63 Mar 6, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't mean it should be used as an excuse. But the fact is every firearm ever produced has been for the purpose of killing. Not mean to drive nails into wood. Not meant to plow a field. Not meant for any other purpose than to kill. It could be for hunting but none-the-less meant to kill.
I am saying the NRA used to be about rational gun ownership and use. They are not so much any more. I stopped being a member many years ago when they were moving it more off to the sidelines.
The Hatchet was used to not only to clear wood and brush but battle. Attaque avec une hache (Attack with a Hatchet) was used frequently and brought to North America where Natives adopted it.... The Iroquois use the tomahawk in raids on settlers..... Special Forces use it today. Meat grinder and wood chippers are also use to kill as well as rope, shovels, autos, drain cleaner.... The list goes on and it all depends on intent of use.... My weapons don't discharge by themself....

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#64 Mar 6, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't mean it should be used as an excuse. But the fact is every firearm ever produced has been for the purpose of killing. Not mean to drive nails into wood. Not meant to plow a field. Not meant for any other purpose than to kill. It could be for hunting but none-the-less meant to kill.
I am saying the NRA used to be about rational gun ownership and use. They are not so much any more. I stopped being a member many years ago when they were moving it more off to the sidelines.
Hey I agree guns are for one thing no doubt. I quit the NRA also because of the constant telemarketing asking for money and the flooding my mailbox with so much garbage.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#65 Mar 6, 2013
Florida state Sen. Audrey Gibson (D-Jacksonville) introduced the bill on Saturday, which stipulates ammunition purchasers must go through a three-day waiting period to buy any ammo if they have not completed anger management courses. The bill would mandate that ammo buyers take the anger management course every 10 years.

You all see its people who come up with this crap that tells me all I need to know about anti gun politicians. Just wait all of you naysayers its coming one way or another because of idiots like Audrey Gibson..
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#66 Mar 6, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
Florida state Sen. Audrey Gibson (D-Jacksonville) introduced the bill on Saturday, which stipulates ammunition purchasers must go through a three-day waiting period to buy any ammo if they have not completed anger management courses. The bill would mandate that ammo buyers take the anger management course every 10 years.
You all see its people who come up with this crap that tells me all I need to know about anti gun politicians. Just wait all of you naysayers its coming one way or another because of idiots like Audrey Gibson..
While she has sponsored a bill requiring Anger Management Class for ammunition buyers.
http://politix.topix.com/homepage/4936-florid...

Come on now, that is funny. With the rush of so many to stock up on ammo because "the government" is going come and take our guns away haha, their coming to take our guns away hoho, one does have to wonder about their anger management skills.

It's likely never take root but it does start the brain tickle.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#67 Mar 6, 2013
Sorry Shoeless. I missed that you had included the Anger Management Class and renewal every ten years. I just made me laugh too quickly to catch it.

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