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Phil

Oxford, MI

#67 Apr 2, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
And for those who will lean to the link posted above this should prove it not to be just some left-wing propaganda message.
http://www.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/seri...

So all this visceral discontent over social welfare is nothing more than a distraction from the larger welfare "fraud".
Jason all you post is propaganda!! Lol!!
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#68 Apr 2, 2013
Obama intends on signing the U.N. ATT (Arms Trade Treaty). At first glace, it seems to only include firearms crossing between international boarders. I don't trust it though. I can see where this could end up in the future with world-wide firearm registration and eventually, confiscation! So far, the US Senate has stated that they will not ratify this treaty due to the concerns that it could potentially violate our own 2nd Amendment. Eight Democrats as well as all Republicans in the Senate have vowed not to give the go-ahead. But of course, our dear fuhrer-n-chief doesn't care as he has indicated his willingness to sign the treaty anyways.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/...

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#69 Apr 2, 2013
Dr X wrote:
Obama intends on signing the U.N. ATT (Arms Trade Treaty). At first glace, it seems to only include firearms crossing between international boarders. I don't trust it though. I can see where this could end up in the future with world-wide firearm registration and eventually, confiscation! So far, the US Senate has stated that they will not ratify this treaty due to the concerns that it could potentially violate our own 2nd Amendment. Eight Democrats as well as all Republicans in the Senate have vowed not to give the go-ahead. But of course, our dear fuhrer-n-chief doesn't care as he has indicated his willingness to sign the treaty anyways.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/...
So who would be the foolish idiots who try to confiscate guns from the hands of Americans? What force would have to be assembled? Blue helmets anyone? Or do they think that because some strange international entity decides to confiscate our personal property the president thinks we will just obey and hand them in? Of course there will be those who will say hey its the law and we must obey the law. Right?
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#70 Apr 2, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>So who would be the foolish idiots who try to confiscate guns from the hands of Americans? What force would have to be assembled? Blue helmets anyone? Or do they think that because some strange international entity decides to confiscate our personal property the president thinks we will just obey and hand them in? Of course there will be those who will say hey its the law and we must obey the law. Right?
Hopefully, our one-of-a-kind constitutional checks and balances system will weed out and eliminate any need for the use of force. I'm pretty sure that a vast majority of gun owners in America would refuse to hand in anything in the event of such a decree given by the U.N. with or own government tasked with enforcement. Most officers, in any level of government, would simply refuse the order. This leaves U.N. troops to enforce it themselves which would mean millions of blue helmets laying on the ground with holes in them or the "civilian" military force that Obama talked about earlier. However, that group would be regulated exclusively to the major cities as they would not dare venture into rural areas. Those rural areas would most likely be hit with drones. Of course all of this is speculation at this point, but planning for the improbable is better than sticking your head in the sand. Remember, the first wall is the Constitution(checks and balances), the second wall is those who are willing to fight and die for the first.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#71 Apr 3, 2013
Dr X wrote:
Obama intends on signing the U.N. ATT (Arms Trade Treaty). At first glace, it seems to only include firearms crossing between international boarders. I don't trust it though. I can see where this could end up in the future with world-wide firearm registration and eventually, confiscation! So far, the US Senate has stated that they will not ratify this treaty due to the concerns that it could potentially violate our own 2nd Amendment. Eight Democrats as well as all Republicans in the Senate have vowed not to give the go-ahead. But of course, our dear fuhrer-n-chief doesn't care as he has indicated his willingness to sign the treaty anyways.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/apr/...
I see your point...... Ol'Adolph was a big time supporter of the League of Nations, and always made sure that his country followed the rules established by them.

We need real leadership in this country that won't be cowed by the dictates of the UN...... Sort of like No. Korea!

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#72 Apr 3, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>Hopefully, our one-of-a-kind constitutional checks and balances system will weed out and eliminate any need for the use of force. I'm pretty sure that a vast majority of gun owners in America would refuse to hand in anything in the event of such a decree given by the U.N. with or own government tasked with enforcement. Most officers, in any level of government, would simply refuse the order. This leaves U.N. troops to enforce it themselves which would mean millions of blue helmets laying on the ground with holes in them or the "civilian" military force that Obama talked about earlier. However, that group would be regulated exclusively to the major cities as they would not dare venture into rural areas. Those rural areas would most likely be hit with drones. Of course all of this is speculation at this point, but planning for the improbable is better than sticking your head in the sand. Remember, the first wall is the Constitution(checks and balances), the second wall is those who are willing to fight and die for the first.
I agree with you it would probably never happen. Let me though project a little as I like to do. Lets just say that the UN gets to take over and the BHO CDF gets unleashed and they in their disillusion think that we the people will just lay down and obey, just imagine these clueless children who have been indoctrinated into believing that they have some authority run up against resistance what will happen of course the may be armed with AR15s and 30 round magazines.

Just opinion just speculation but I know there are those who dream of it to have power over all of us, because that is the real goal power. By the way the CDF wears red jackets with yellow piping and their "fierce" I have seen the commercials.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#73 Apr 3, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you it would probably never happen. Let me though project a little as I like to do. Lets just say that the UN gets to take over and the BHO CDF gets unleashed and they in their disillusion think that we the people will just lay down and obey, just imagine these clueless children who have been indoctrinated into believing that they have some authority run up against resistance what will happen of course the may be armed with AR15s and 30 round magazines.
Just opinion just speculation but I know there are those who dream of it to have power over all of us, because that is the real goal power. By the way the CDF wears red jackets with yellow piping and their "fierce" I have seen the commercials.
It's not yellow piping, its gold..... Just like the jacket's lining.

Mine is very comfortable too!
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#74 Apr 3, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
<quoted text>I agree with you it would probably never happen. Let me though project a little as I like to do. Lets just say that the UN gets to take over and the BHO CDF gets unleashed and they in their disillusion think that we the people will just lay down and obey, just imagine these clueless children who have been indoctrinated into believing that they have some authority run up against resistance what will happen of course the may be armed with AR15s and 30 round magazines.
Just opinion just speculation but I know there are those who dream of it to have power over all of us, because that is the real goal power. By the way the CDF wears red jackets with yellow piping and their "fierce" I have seen the commercials.
Obama's civilian defense force would be massacred in about 10 minutes if it ever went down. There is no way they could be trained fast enough for urban combat to say nothing of country-style warfare. They'd never leave the cities! We could just starve them out! A vast portion of our "real" military would join forces with us and provide some hard-core firepower...think Grayling Michigan. I think the real strategy of the new Nazis is long term. Like you alluded to, children are being indoctrinated by these traitors to forget or even ignore the founding principals of America. They will grow up with either cow-bells hanging around their necks or they will be soulless killers ready to follow orders without a thought or question. We have to stop this Nazi takeover of our government by first identifying who's really pulling the strings, then second, try them for high treason. It's going to be very hard to do that though because they hide behind titles and lawyers and such.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#77 Apr 3, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>Obama's civilian defense force would be massacred in about 10 minutes if it ever went down. There is no way they could be trained fast enough for urban combat to say nothing of country-style warfare. They'd never leave the cities! We could just starve them out! A vast portion of our "real" military would join forces with us and provide some hard-core firepower...think Grayling Michigan. I think the real strategy of the new Nazis is long term. Like you alluded to, children are being indoctrinated by these traitors to forget or even ignore the founding principals of America. They will grow up with either cow-bells hanging around their necks or they will be soulless killers ready to follow orders without a thought or question. We have to stop this Nazi takeover of our government by first identifying who's really pulling the strings, then second, try them for high treason. It's going to be very hard to do that though because they hide behind titles and lawyers and such.
And just who would "they" be?....."they hide behind titles and lawyers and such".

Remember, Hitler, as this is all being compared to him, was not a government official. He wasn't connected to the German government. Nor was he a out-of-country provocateur. He was after all a belligerent nationalist.
Dr Loser

Grand Rapids, MI

#78 Apr 3, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>Obama's civilian defense force would be massacred in about 10 minutes if it ever went down. There is no way they could be trained fast enough for urban combat to say nothing of country-style warfare. They'd never leave the cities! We could just starve them out! A vast portion of our "real" military would join forces with us and provide some hard-core firepower...think Grayling Michigan. I think the real strategy of the new Nazis is long term. Like you alluded to, children are being indoctrinated by these traitors to forget or even ignore the founding principals of America. They will grow up with either cow-bells hanging around their necks or they will be soulless killers ready to follow orders without a thought or question. We have to stop this Nazi takeover of our government by first identifying who's really pulling the strings, then second, try them for high treason. It's going to be very hard to do that though because they hide behind titles and lawyers and such.
Dr? I think you need some professional help, you might want to set an appointment with a real Dr.
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#79 Apr 3, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>And just who would "they" be?....."they hide behind titles and lawyers and such".
Remember, Hitler, as this is all being compared to him, was not a government official. He wasn't connected to the German government. Nor was he a out-of-country provocateur. He was after all a belligerent nationalist.
You really don't know who I'm referring to as to "they"? These are the individuals who would like to exalt their power over us and turn free citizens into subjects all because they hold the belief that we are parts of a "greater society" and that we need social maintenance. I don't think you understand nor can believe that there are actually people in this country who endorse such "fixed" society. We have ample evidence that this has been tried over and over again in other places in the past with disastrous results. I don't know who all the players are in this, I can't possibly. It may be that none of the usual suspects are involved. I know they exist though because we can clearly see the drift towards socialism and even towards totalitarianism here in America. Yes, Hitler hid behind no one except the fact that he exploited the devaluation of the currency to rise to power and install the Nazi (socialist) party to absolute power. Face it or don't, there is a movement to transform this country. Obama said it himself.
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#80 Apr 3, 2013
Dr Loser wrote:
<quoted text>
Dr? I think you need some professional help, you might want to set an appointment with a real Dr.
Go back to your pasture. Nothing to see here.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#82 Apr 4, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>You really don't know who I'm referring to as to "they"? These are the individuals who would like to exalt their power over us and turn free citizens into subjects all because they hold the belief that we are parts of a "greater society" and that we need social maintenance. I don't think you understand nor can believe that there are actually people in this country who endorse such "fixed" society. We have ample evidence that this has been tried over and over again in other places in the past with disastrous results. I don't know who all the players are in this, I can't possibly. It may be that none of the usual suspects are involved. I know they exist though because we can clearly see the drift towards socialism and even towards totalitarianism here in America. Yes, Hitler hid behind no one except the fact that he exploited the devaluation of the currency to rise to power and install the Nazi (socialist) party to absolute power. Face it or don't, there is a movement to transform this country. Obama said it himself.
Yes I do know. But from your vague inferences I am unclear who the "they" are that you refer. But I suspect we differ in who "they" are. I can though, and have, back up whom I believe the "they" are.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Mount Morris, MI

#83 Apr 4, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Hey Twerp? Why did you post a snarky comment using SIBs ID? There's no question it was you. Vox you're a little sneak coward bastard. Must suck to be you especially to have to sneak around like you do.
Union City People are funny....... Short too......
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#84 Apr 4, 2013
Here is an example of just who it is that is drifting toward "socialism" and "totalitarianism".
Proposed Bill in North Carolina Would Establish a State Religion:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/03/es...
Well totalitarianism anyway.

If as the article states; “The Constitution of the United States does not grant the federal government and does not grant the federal courts the power to determine what is or is not constitutional,” the bill reads.", what else would the courts not have the power to determine what is and what is not constitutional.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Mount Morris, MI

#85 Apr 4, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
Here is an example of just who it is that is drifting toward "socialism" and "totalitarianism".
Proposed Bill in North Carolina Would Establish a State Religion:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/03/es...
Well totalitarianism anyway.
If as the article states; “The Constitution of the United States does not grant the federal government and does not grant the federal courts the power to determine what is or is not constitutional,” the bill reads.", what else would the courts not have the power to determine what is and what is not constitutional.
Wasn't there a minor dispute around the 1860's about this?
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#86 Apr 4, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes I do know. But from your vague inferences I am unclear who the "they" are that you refer. But I suspect we differ in who "they" are. I can though, and have, back up whom I believe the "they" are.
My guess is that they're present in parts of the education system, lower courts, banks, political appointments and BOTH political parties. If we can match the money with the individual who holds that type of ideology, we have one of them who is a financier. I do know that George Soros is one of them. He said so himself back in 1985.
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#87 Apr 4, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
Here is an example of just who it is that is drifting toward "socialism" and "totalitarianism".
Proposed Bill in North Carolina Would Establish a State Religion:
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/03/es...
Well totalitarianism anyway.
If as the article states; “The Constitution of the United States does not grant the federal government and does not grant the federal courts the power to determine what is or is not constitutional,” the bill reads.", what else would the courts not have the power to determine what is and what is not constitutional.
Yes, this is clearly unconstitutional. I wonder if it's a knee-jerk reaction to the unconstitutional laws passed in New York or Connecticut recently. Seems like the states are dividing right from left and left from right at a record pace. If they would only stop and actually READ the Constitution that binds them all before acting like morons.

Since: Mar 13

Grand Rapids, MI

#88 Apr 5, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
<quoted text>
Hard to say...have you had hunters shooting lead shot at you lately? Have you been hit by one or two of those lead pellets and then fly away having unwanted and poisenous lead introduced into your body where it injures you but not kills you? Do you feed from the bottom of a pond where lead shot falls and accidentally intake it?
What a dumb analogy on your part...
u r obviously ignert and iltrate, you couldn't get my point if it stuck you in the i. I'm an inveterate waterfowl hunter; been so for more than 40 years and yes I've been peppered with all manner of shot over the years, but none of killed me.

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