Landis Plastics owner alleges Ridge is 'anti- business village'

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Chicago Ridge has become an over-governed village whose officials are opposed to developing local business and creating jobs, according to one longtime business owner who brought his argument before the Village Board Monday. Chicago Ridge has become an over-governed village whose officials are opposed to developing local business and creating jobs, according to one longtime business owner who brought his argument before the Village Board Monday.
Dick Landis, owner of the Landis Plastics property at 10800 Central Ave., accused trustees of forcing a trucking company operating on his property to cease operations because of the consistent complaints of “a few rogue residents.” Speaking on behalf of his family, Landis criticized the village’s business climate and said the industrial property should be allowed to operate without restrictions.
“Chicago Ridge is becoming known as the anti-business village, to us [at least],” Landis said.“We’re trying to create jobs and Chicago Ridge seems to be chasing them away. Village trustees Monday voted 3-2 against a motion that would have granted Sherwood Food Distributors a new business license to continue operating at the Landis Plastics building, which no longer produces plastic products. Trustees Daniel Badon, Bruce Quintos and Mike Davies voted to deny the license, while Trustees Juanita Babcock and James Saunoris voted in favor of it. Trustee Brad Grove was absent.
The Landis family owns six plants including one in Alsip and has never had a problem receiving a business license, Landis said Tuesday during a speech in which he highlighted the company’s history including the jobs and tax revenue it has provided for Chicago Ridge.
“These [other] municipalities are interested in developing businesses, tax revenue and jobs,” Landis said.
Calling Sandei’s petition “flawed and misleading,” Landis told trustees that allowing residents to set industrial restrictions is wrong.
“We are zoned M-1 industrial and should be allowed to conduct business,” he said, adding the vacant property would mean losing more than $50,000 in rent.
“Dennis did exactly what he said he was going to do and I don’t understand how a few residents can overshadow what we’re trying to do. It’s just not fair.”
Following Landis’ comments, Saunoris told his fellow board members that they should grant Sherwood a new license.
“If I was in this position, I would get a lawyer up here,” Saunoris said, who owns Saunoris Garden Center in Chicago Ridge.“I think it’s wrong and as a board we should go along with this gentleman.”
Babcock agreed.“I feel we should give them the license and let them carry on,” she said.
“At one point, we could hit children and we could segregate our schools,” Davies said to illustrate his point.“Things change.”
Chicago Ridge Mayor Eugene Siegel closed more than an hour of debate by catering to both sides.
“I respect zoning,” Siegel said.“He has all the right in the world to run a business zoned M-1. Chicago Ridge has come a long way because we favor our business community and appreciate all they’ve done.
“If people think Gene Siegel is not for the residents ... we are for the residents,” he continued.
Seemingly oblivious to everyone involved in the debate was the fact that Sherwood had secured a new location prior to the meeting. The trucking company will move back into its former location in Blue Island, likely around Nov. 13, Organ told The Reporter in a phone interview Monday morning.
“I couldn’t get the mayor to understand, it is not hard to move,” Organ said.“Commercial real estate is not hard to come by.”
Taxes for trucking companies are far too high in Chicago Ridge, Organ stressed.
“Why would a business come here?” he asked
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Ridge Rules wrote:
Chicago Ridge has become an over-governed village whose officials are opposed to developing local business and creating jobs, according to one longtime business owner who brought his argument before the Village Board Monday. Chicago Ridge has become an over-governed village whose officials are opposed to developing local business and creating jobs, according to one longtime business owner who brought his argument before the Village Board Monday.
Dick Landis, owner of the Landis Plastics property at 10800 Central Ave., accused trustees of forcing a trucking company operating on his property to cease operations because of the consistent complaints of “a few rogue residents.” Speaking on behalf of his family, Landis criticized the village’s business climate and said the industrial property should be allowed to operate without restrictions.
“Chicago Ridge is becoming known as the anti-business village, to us [at least],” Landis said.“We’re trying to create jobs and Chicago Ridge seems to be chasing them away. Village trustees Monday voted 3-2 against a motion that would have granted Sherwood Food Distributors a new business license to continue operating at the Landis Plastics building, which no longer produces plastic products. Trustees Daniel Badon, Bruce Quintos and Mike Davies voted to deny the license, while Trustees Juanita Babcock and James Saunoris voted in favor of it. Trustee Brad Grove was absent.
The Landis family owns six plants including one in Alsip and has never had a problem receiving a business license, Landis said Tuesday during a speech in which he highlighted the company’s history including the jobs and tax revenue it has provided for Chicago Ridge.
“These [other] municipalities are interested in developing businesses, tax revenue and jobs,” Landis said.
Calling Sandei’s petition “flawed and misleading,” Landis told trustees that allowing residents to set industrial restrictions is wrong.
“We are zoned M-1 industrial and should be allowed to conduct business,” he said, adding the vacant property would mean losing more than $50,000 in rent.
“Dennis did exactly what he said he was going to do and I don’t understand how a few residents can overshadow what we’re trying to do. It’s just not fair.”
Following Landis’ comments, Saunoris told his fellow board members that they should grant Sherwood a new license.
“If I was in this position, I would get a lawyer up here,” Saunoris said, who owns Saunoris Garden Center in Chicago Ridge.“I think it’s wrong and as a board we should go along with this gentleman.”
Babcock agreed.“I feel we should give them the license and let them carry on,” she said.
“At one point, we could hit children and we could segregate our schools,” Davies said to illustrate his point.“Things change.”
Chicago Ridge Mayor Eugene Siegel closed more than an hour of debate by catering to both sides.
“I respect zoning,” Siegel said.“He has all the right in the world to run a business zoned M-1. Chicago Ridge has come a long way because we favor our business community and appreciate all they’ve done.
“If people think Gene Siegel is not for the residents ... we are for the residents,” he continued.
Seemingly oblivious to everyone involved in the debate was the fact that Sherwood had secured a new location prior to the meeting. The trucking company will move back into its former location in Blue Island, likely around Nov. 13, Organ told The Reporter in a phone interview Monday morning.
“I couldn’t get the mayor to understand, it is not hard to move,” Organ said.“Commercial real estate is not hard to come by.”
Taxes for trucking companies are far too high in Chicago Ridge, Organ stressed.
“Why would a business come here?” he asked
You just put this here because you lost. The Gene Team is the greatest. We get to do what we want. We can tax trucking companies as much as we want to.
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<quoted text>You just put this here because you lost. The Gene Team is the greatest. We get to do what we want. We can tax trucking companies as much as we want to.
Stop your petty crap already. The thing that amazes me is this quote from the above Southtown article
"Chicago Ridge Mayor Eugene Siegel closed more than an hour of debate by catering to both sides.
“I respect zoning,” Siegel said.“He has all the right in the world to run a business zoned M-1. Chicago Ridge has come a long way because we favor our business community and appreciate all they’ve done.
“If people think Gene Siegel is not for the residents ... we are for the residents,” he continued.
He "favors the business community" and "we are for the residents" Obviously in this case he is for the couple of residents who complained. The license was allowed to lapse and Sherwood had to find a place to do their business. They couldn't wait for the village board.
If you want to be for the residents, why don't you get a plan together to start eliminating some of the crap apartment ghettos.
When the police cars are zipping through the village all night on the weekends, where the hell do you think they are going?
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They buy a house by train tracks and a business that uses , of course trucks, then complain about noise? And someone listened to them? So we lost another business opportunity? to make a couple residents happy? What about the other 14,120 residents?
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Stop your petty crap already. The thing that amazes me is this quote from the above Southtown article
"Chicago Ridge Mayor Eugene Siegel closed more than an hour of debate by catering to both sides.
“I respect zoning,” Siegel said.“He has all the right in the world to run a business zoned M-1. Chicago Ridge has come a long way because we favor our business community and appreciate all they’ve done.
“If people think Gene Siegel is not for the residents ... we are for the residents,” he continued.
He "favors the business community" and "we are for the residents" Obviously in this case he is for the couple of residents who complained. The license was allowed to lapse and Sherwood had to find a place to do their business. They couldn't wait for the village board.
If you want to be for the residents, why don't you get a plan together to start eliminating some of the crap apartment ghettos.
When the police cars are zipping through the village all night on the weekends, where the hell do you think they are going?
You seem to take a dim view of the political element at play here. So here is a little more darkness. The Mayor refuses to allow action to change the zoning on the Landis property because of his long connection to the Landis family. Saunoris and Babcock are right that the zoning on the Landis property allows these types of businesses, but they fail to point out that the Mayor is responsible. The other Trustees that commented for the article are clueless to the legalities of the performance standards and are really only pandering for votes. The businesses in manufacturing districts have performance standards for noise. The Village would lose a lawsuit over those. The neighbors win their sleep back. Business loses. Like the man said, there is a lot of commercial property.
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So okay Mike when did you stop hitting your children?
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Observer wrote:
<quoted text>You seem to take a dim view of the political element at play here. So here is a little more darkness. The Mayor refuses to allow action to change the zoning on the Landis property because of his long connection to the Landis family. Saunoris and Babcock are right that the zoning on the Landis property allows these types of businesses, but they fail to point out that the Mayor is responsible. The other Trustees that commented for the article are clueless to the legalities of the performance standards and are really only pandering for votes. The businesses in manufacturing districts have performance standards for noise. The Village would lose a lawsuit over those. The neighbors win their sleep back. Business loses. Like the man said, there is a lot of commercial property.
It's really sad when the only forum you have any say about anything is Topix. You do know that only a few people post and actually read some of this information. We know most of it are lies and half truths. Elections come and go and still you are voiceless and in some cases clueless.
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It's really sad when the only forum you have any say about anything is Topix. You do know that only a few people post and actually read some of this information. We know most of it are lies and half truths. Elections come and go and still you are voiceless and in some cases clueless.
This is anonymous blog. WE have never seen statistics about the number of people who contribute so we really don't know how many people do but if you are telling the truth then maybe it is only a few people. The newspaper story from the Reporter sounds like it could be a true account, but again maybe we don't know. The meeting was moved from Tuesday this past week because the Mayor had a party to go to and we couldn't go to the meeting on Monday. If you don't think that the Mayor has long connection with Landis then it is you who is clueless and willing to tell lies. If you don't believe Trustee Saunoris that the trucking company probably was legally operating take it up with him. Maybe he lied. Elected people speak for the whole Village, but they don't seem to agree on this so we should have a voice.
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I worked on the bucket line for Landis Plasic and paid my way through college with that job. The Landis family took good care of everybody that worked for them. If they say that they are being treated unfairly they must be. This is not a frivolous clan. The Ridge Village Board is as dysfunctional as can be.
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Bucket Boy wrote:
I worked on the bucket line for Landis Plasic and paid my way through college with that job. The Landis family took good care of everybody that worked for them. If they say that they are being treated unfairly they must be. This is not a frivolous clan. The Ridge Village Board is as dysfunctional as can be.
Ladies and Gentlemen,,,,,THE BUCKET BOY!
A name we can trust and respect!
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pssh.
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Landis Plastic takes care of their employees. That is a BIG joke. My mom worked for them years ago, when I was a kid, and had an accident with a press resulting in loosing 1 1/2 fingers. Her compensation...enough money to buy a dishwasher. Nice!
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Not judging Landis in either way and of course sorry for anyone loosing their fingers but....i was in a similar situation. It is up to their insurance companies and the lawyers. That's what they paid insurance for. There is a standard amount for each loss. Loosing an eye gets the most. Right hand and or fingers more than left ( for a right handed person). Legs vs arms etc. I was shocked. My relative lost his thumb in a work accident by faulty equipment and that was only $8,000 and then his attorney got a percentage.(All medical was paid.) I know, that sucks!
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I shat out my spleen after having too many pizza puffs at Its Italian (remember in Worh on 111th), didnt get one red cent. I keep it in the jar by the door just like a chick I know named Elenor Rigby.
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Stop your petty crap already. The thing that amazes me is this quote from the above Southtown article
"Chicago Ridge Mayor Eugene Siegel closed more than an hour of debate by catering to both sides.
“I respect zoning,” Siegel said.“He has all the right in the world to run a business zoned M-1. Chicago Ridge has come a long way because we favor our business community and appreciate all they’ve done.
“If people think Gene Siegel is not for the residents ... we are for the residents,” he continued.
He "favors the business community" and "we are for the residents" Obviously in this case he is for the couple of residents who complained. The license was allowed to lapse and Sherwood had to find a place to do their business. They couldn't wait for the village board.
If you want to be for the residents, why don't you get a plan together to start eliminating some of the crap apartment ghettos.
When the police cars are zipping through the village all night on the weekends, where the hell do you think they are going?
If you don't like it move to New Lenox. When we say no we mean no. Gene Team Rules.
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The Village Board can't seem to get the facts right on economic development time after time. The dog and pony show of protecting Saunoris's frieds has again been exposed as fraud. The Mayor and the Board do not listen to people that tell the truth unless they are on a petition drive or actively working a campaign. Village Management except for Tokar and Baldermann was never educated in a college environment, many of these goons made their marks lying about co-workers, or being at the right place at the right time, for the right political campaign. It is no secret, uneducated trustees like Saunoris, Grove, Babcock, Quintos that do not get along with Badon and Davies, a sure recipe for fights.
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Saunoris's friends (not frieds) include two of 111th Streets biggest eysores Walsh's and the Grove. He protects both of them.
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Saunoris's friends (not frieds) include two of 111th Streets biggest eysores Walsh's and the Grove. He protects both of them.
One of my concerns is that Grove and Saunoris have businesses next to each other on 111th street and while is is great for the businesses because they can share parking, how can we ever expect them not to vote together?. It seems logical for them to work together to make money for their businesses but it creates the appearance of conflict of interest.

BTW, Saunoris is a real gem. He sits as the chair of the police committee and has made sure his son-in-law has been promoted all the way to Deputy Chief and made sure the Village paid all the legal bills and has never excused himself from voting on a police matter.

The conspiracy theory of the village is that Grove and Davies own Siegel because they have taken over his campaign committee. With their new power they have the Ordinance Officer punishing and multifamily or residential property owners in such a way that about 50% of properties in Chicago are "non-conforming". This forces about 50% of Chicago Ridge property owners to need to grovel to the village, including elected officials.

The village board led by Mayor Siegel greases the skids for friends and uses the power of the village to punish their enemies.
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Rules Ridge wrote:
<quoted text>One of my concerns is that Grove and Saunoris have businesses next to each other on 111th street and while is is great for the businesses because they can share parking, how can we ever expect them not to vote together?. It seems logical for them to work together to make money for their businesses but it creates the appearance of conflict of interest.
BTW, Saunoris is a real gem. He sits as the chair of the police committee and has made sure his son-in-law has been promoted all the way to Deputy Chief and made sure the Village paid all the legal bills and has never excused himself from voting on a police matter.
The conspiracy theory of the village is that Grove and Davies own Siegel because they have taken over his campaign committee. With their new power they have the Ordinance Officer punishing and multifamily or residential property owners in such a way that about 50% of properties in Chicago are "non-conforming". This forces about 50% of Chicago Ridge property owners to need to grovel to the village, including elected officials.
The village board led by Mayor Siegel greases the skids for friends and uses the power of the village to punish their enemies.
You forgot to include the "desalting of the earth" and they are probably responsible for the increased dry cleaning prices at Matins!
Imagine politicians using power to punish enemies. Why I never!!
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The real Ridge Rules wrote:
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You forgot to include the "desalting of the earth" and they are probably responsible for the increased dry cleaning prices at Matins!
Imagine politicians using power to punish enemies. Why I never!!
Nope. Thought about including that but figured it was over your head. Thanks for posting it in here. I am glad you have such a jolly attitude about conflict of interest and nepotism. Will you be testifying for ex-Gov Blago? Above the law antics are only laughable after you have had couple and you are yucking with your peeps. Not everyone agrees.

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