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How important is religion when voting for president?

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Since: Aug 12

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#1 Sep 1, 2012
Everyone knows that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Kennedy was a catholic. George W. was an evangelical christian. Obama has Muslim roots but confesses to be a christian under the guise of black liberation theology. How important is a persons faith when they are asking for your vote? How will Rooney's faith effect how he governs? How has Obama's faith effected how he governs? what do you think?
bilbo

Marion, NC

#2 Sep 1, 2012
i believe in the separation of church and state and that their religious beliefs should be set aside for the best interest of all the people in this country while they are in office.
jusayin

Nebo, NC

#3 Sep 1, 2012
OlFortpreacher wrote:
Everyone knows that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Kennedy was a catholic. George W. was an evangelical christian. Obama has Muslim roots but confesses to be a christian under the guise of black liberation theology. How important is a persons faith when they are asking for your vote? How will Rooney's faith effect how he governs? How has Obama's faith effected how he governs? what do you think?
Very important this year. Threr is a difference in christianity and cults. The mormons have been wanting to take control of governments thru out the world. Since late 1800's their goal has been to control the USA. Mormons pledge even thru blood/sacrifice that they will put the church first before any laws. Thats why mitt can put millions out of the country and not pay taxes not show what he reported to the IRS because the church supports his lies. Mormonism is a cult that believes "lying for the lord" is OK as long as it benefits the church. His lord is not the christians Lord. Preacher you need to read more if you really want to know. Actually I think you already know and you are such a ingrownrepub it would tear your heart out to have to admit a republican is of the Devil. Forget repub/dems if you are a christian God comes first. Mitt and and all Mormons are liars they will say anything to benefit themselves and their cult. Use your pc look up mormonbeliefs, mormonslyingforthelord, quit being ignorant or be a commissioner.

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#4 Sep 1, 2012
Why is it so important this election but it wasn't 4 years ago?
sportsfan71

United States

#5 Sep 1, 2012
OlFortpreacher wrote:
Why is it so important this election but it wasn't 4 years ago?
I think it's because Obama didn't use God in every speech to try and get Christian votes. Sad but most people around here think he's talking about their God. It's kinda like saying I'm Pro-Life to get Christian votes and then saying, I think abortion is ok in the case of rape, incest or if the mothers life is in danger. That's like saying a baby is only worth keeping, if it's concieved under ideal circumstances and some babies lives are not worth saving, don't you think? What do you think preacher, is it ok with God to kill those babies? I'm pretty sure Mitt's Pro-Life stance as well as the whole Republicant Party, goes like this, we don't care as long as we don't get asked to pay for it. What I find the most fascinating of all, is Mitt says he's going to cut taxes on the 1%ers and raise taxes on the middle class and people around here are still willing to vote for him. I guess they are too stupid to realize most of their employers are in the middle class. I especially like how they say their first order of business will be to do away with the Affordable Health Care Act and are going to raise the price of Medicare $6400 per year and people still can't wait to vote for them. That amazes me, if they have their way, their rich friends will be the only ones who can afford to go to a doctor. You people just think things are tough right now, go ahead and vote Mitt in you haven't seen hard times yet. Me personally, I look foward to him fulfilling the "White Horse Prophecy" and our war with Russia, that ought to be big fun for all of us.

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#6 Sep 2, 2012
sportsfan71 wrote:
<quoted text>I think it's because Obama didn't use God in every speech to try and get Christian votes. Sad but most people around here think he's talking about their God. It's kinda like saying I'm Pro-Life to get Christian votes and then saying, I think abortion is ok in the case of rape, incest or if the mothers life is in danger. That's like saying a baby is only worth keeping, if it's concieved under ideal circumstances and some babies lives are not worth saving, don't you think? What do you think preacher, is it ok with God to kill those babies? I'm pretty sure Mitt's Pro-Life stance as well as the whole Republicant Party, goes like this, we don't care as long as we don't get asked to pay for it. What I find the most fascinating of all, is Mitt says he's going to cut taxes on the 1%ers and raise taxes on the middle class and people around here are still willing to vote for him. I guess they are too stupid to realize most of their employers are in the middle class. I especially like how they say their first order of business will be to do away with the Affordable Health Care Act and are going to raise the price of Medicare $6400 per year and people still can't wait to vote for them. That amazes me, if they have their way, their rich friends will be the only ones who can afford to go to a doctor. You people just think things are tough right now, go ahead and vote Mitt in you haven't seen hard times yet. Me personally, I look foward to him fulfilling the "White Horse Prophecy" and our war with Russia, that ought to be big fun for all of us.
On the abortion issue you have to ask the question of which candidate would do the most to reduce the number of babies killed no matter the circumstances. Mitt may have exceptions to the rule but the allternitive is abortion on demand as a form of birthcontrol. As for his tax policy, he has never said he would raise taxes on the middle class or that he would cut taxes for the 1%ers. The tax argument is about the Bush tax cuts that cut taxes across the board for both groups. Obama wants to raise taxes for the 1%ers and mitt doesn't. Up untill now Obama has been saying that he wants to raise taxes on the rich but his actions have shown other wise. Every year he has signed to keep the bush tax cuts as they were when Bush was in office. The truth is he will probably do it again If it wasn't an election year. The problem is that Obama's ecconomic advisors have told him that raising taxes on anyone would hurt the ecconomic recovery, and that his plan would do nothing to bring down the US debt. We have to wonder if this is what he thinks is best for the country or the best bet for getting reelected.
sportsfan71

Seymour, TN

#7 Sep 2, 2012
Preacher, maybe you should listen closer to the speeches, of the man you say you are voting for, because raising taxes on the middle class is exactly what Romney is saying, he is going to do as well as increase the cut to the 1%ers. Obama kept the cuts for the same reason America will vote for Mitt, because the rich are holding this country hostage with scare tactics. They want you to believe that them paying the same taxes as everyone else won't help the debt and they keep you believing that, by saying we employee you and if we have to pay more taxes we won't be able to give you jobs. Funny thing is most Americans aren't employeed by them , they are employeed by middle class business owners. Also liked the way you slithered around the question about those babies, seems the party suits you well. Some having the right to abort a baby isn't Pro-Life, it's Pro-Choice and as with all things with the Republicant party, seems they don't want all Americans to be treated equally under the law. Bet when their underage daughters get knocked up by some undesirable, it won't be too much of a stretch of the truth for them, too say she was raped.

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#8 Sep 2, 2012
sportsfan71 wrote:
Preacher, maybe you should listen closer to the speeches, of the man you say you are voting for, because raising taxes on the middle class is exactly what Romney is saying, he is going to do as well as increase the cut to the 1%ers. Obama kept the cuts for the same reason America will vote for Mitt, because the rich are holding this country hostage with scare tactics. They want you to believe that them paying the same taxes as everyone else won't help the debt and they keep you believing that, by saying we employee you and if we have to pay more taxes we won't be able to give you jobs. Funny thing is most Americans aren't employeed by them , they are employeed by middle class business owners. Also liked the way you slithered around the question about those babies, seems the party suits you well. Some having the right to abort a baby isn't Pro-Life, it's Pro-Choice and as with all things with the Republicant party, seems they don't want all Americans to be treated equally under the law. Bet when their underage daughters get knocked up by some undesirable, it won't be too much of a stretch of the truth for them, too say she was raped.
taxing the rich will produce 70billion dollars a year. With spending at current levels there will still be a deficit every year. I wasn't dodging the question. I agree with you. I was just point ing out that Romney is far more prolife than Obama. In my opinion less abortions is better than more abortions. And Romney has never said in any speech that his plan includes tax increases for the midle class. If you insist that he did, you should produce proof. The numbers I produced come from the CBO

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#9 Sep 2, 2012
OlFortpreacher wrote:
Everyone knows that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Kennedy was a catholic. George W. was an evangelical christian. Obama has Muslim roots but confesses to be a christian under the guise of black liberation theology. How important is a persons faith when they are asking for your vote? How will Rooney's faith effect how he governs? How has Obama's faith effected how he governs? what do you think?
Obama has Muslim roots but confesses to be a christian under the guise of black liberation theology.

Can you further explain what you are trying to convey here?

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#10 Sep 2, 2012
Mea Maxima Culpa wrote:
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Obama has Muslim roots but confesses to be a christian under the guise of black liberation theology.
Can you further explain what you are trying to convey here?
Just that there are theological differences between the belief system of our president and most mainline evangelicals.

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#11 Sep 2, 2012
Mea Maxima Culpa wrote:
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Obama has Muslim roots but confesses to be a christian under the guise of black liberation theology.
Can you further explain what you are trying to convey here?
The point of the entire post is to point out that Bush was an evangelical Christian but it didn't make him a good president.
sportsfan71

Newport, TN

#12 Sep 3, 2012
OlFortpreacher wrote:
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taxing the rich will produce 70billion dollars a year. With spending at current levels there will still be a deficit every year. I wasn't dodging the question. I agree with you. I was just point ing out that Romney is far more prolife than Obama. In my opinion less abortions is better than more abortions. And Romney has never said in any speech that his plan includes tax increases for the midle class. If you insist that he did, you should produce proof. The numbers I produced come from the CBO
Obviously you don't understand the Republicant lingo. When Romney says he will extend and increase the tax cuts to the 1% and give $40 billion in subsidies to big oil, that means the rich pay less for longer. When they say they are going to close the tax loopholes for the middle class, take away mortgage interest tax credit, earned income tax credit, pell grants etc. etc. it will in effect raise taxes on the middle class some $500-$2000 per year for middle class families. Most experts are in agreement, that Romney's tax plan will do just that. Back to the subject, when he talks about his god given freedoms, he isn't talking about the freedoms my God gave me, but maybe he's talking about yours. As for the abortion issue, I believe killing babies is a sin, but until Republicants are willing to help support, feed, raise and help educate all of these unwanted babies, they are so intent on saving, I will align myself with those who say a woman has a right to chose whether or not to bring a child into the world, that she or no one else wants to raise or take care of. I believe right or wrong my God gave her that right to chose and she is the one who will answer for it. For the record I don't think any tax dollars should be used to fund abortions, if she wants one she should pay for it, however I do support using tax dollars to fund contraceptives including the morning after pill and think it is money well spent.
Billy and Barry

United States

#13 Sep 3, 2012
sportsfan71 wrote:
<quoted text>Obviously you don't understand the Republicant lingo. When Romney says he will extend and increase the tax cuts to the 1% and give $40 billion in subsidies to big oil, that means the rich pay less for longer. When they say they are going to close the tax loopholes for the middle class, take away mortgage interest tax credit, earned income tax credit, pell grants etc. etc. it will in effect raise taxes on the middle class some $500-$2000 per year for middle class families. Most experts are in agreement, that Romney's tax plan will do just that. Back to the subject, when he talks about his god given freedoms, he isn't talking about the freedoms my God gave me, but maybe he's talking about yours. As for the abortion issue, I believe killing babies is a sin, but until Republicants are willing to help support, feed, raise and help educate all of these unwanted babies, they are so intent on saving, I will align myself with those who say a woman has a right to chose whether or not to bring a child into the world, that she or no one else wants to raise or take care of. I believe right or wrong my God gave her that right to chose and she is the one who will answer for it. For the record I don't think any tax dollars should be used to fund abortions, if she wants one she should pay for it, however I do support using tax dollars to fund contraceptives including the morning after pill and think it is money well spent.
So in your words "killing babies is a sin" but until the "Republicants" do as you say, you will "align yourself with a woman's right to choose". If you consider abortion killing the most innocent and helpless humans among us, I am dumbfounded by your position. Well you are a true bastion of moral integrity and moral courage. It is gutless wonders like you that remind me why throughout history human beings have suffered terrible atrocities at the hands of their fellow humans. I guess even with our technological advances human nature doesn't change.
Tom

United States

#14 Sep 3, 2012
OlFortpreacher wrote:
Everyone knows that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Kennedy was a catholic. George W. was an evangelical christian. Obama has Muslim roots but confesses to be a christian under the guise of black liberation theology. How important is a persons faith when they are asking for your vote? How will Rooney's faith effect how he governs? How has Obama's faith effected how he governs? what do you think?
If religion is important to u when choosing a president then move to Iran!
OFTruth

Burnsville, NC

#15 Sep 3, 2012
OlFortpreacher wrote:
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The point of the entire post is to point out that Bush was an evangelical Christian but it didn't make him a good president.
You have to be the most ignorant supposedly christian this side of heaven. Mitt is a cult member who believes the devil is smarter than Jesus. Bush was a pawn of the rich repubs. Mitt is a liar of the mormons. A liar for the lord since 1968. The lord is their lord not our LORD and Savior who died for you and me on the cross. The lord of John Smith a cult member who allowed the devil to control his every thought. Preacher you need to give up politics or you will burn in Hell just like all Mormons. Now mitt has ryan on the lying road with him. If you take someone down to the lake of fire you deserve to burn. Be a witness for God not Mormo. Praying that you will seek wisdom and forget about the money coming in from the republicans in your little church. Seek God for your soul.
sportsfan71

United States

#16 Sep 3, 2012
Billy and Barry wrote:
<quoted text>So in your words "killing babies is a sin" but until the "Republicants" do as you say, you will "align yourself with a woman's right to choose". If you consider abortion killing the most innocent and helpless humans among us, I am dumbfounded by your position. Well you are a true bastion of moral integrity and moral courage. It is gutless wonders like you that remind me why throughout history human beings have suffered terrible atrocities at the hands of their fellow humans. I guess even with our technological advances human nature doesn't change.
The Republicans also support the killing of the innocent unborn too you moron. The only difference is they want to pick and chose which ones they say it's alright to abort. God gave woman the right to chose and I will align myself with Him, doesn't mean either one of us wants them to chose to sin, but it's their choice. If the Republicants had their way we would have hoards of unwanted children and no one willing to help feed, house, educate or care for them.
Barry Soetoro

United States

#17 Sep 3, 2012
sportsfan71 wrote:
<quoted text>The Republicans also support the killing of the innocent unborn too you moron. The only difference is they want to pick and chose which ones they say it's alright to abort. God gave woman the right to chose and I will align myself with Him, doesn't mean either one of us wants them to chose to sin, but it's their choice. If the Republicants had their way we would have hoards of unwanted children and no one willing to help feed, house, educate or care for them.
We are not talking about Republicans or Democrats. We are talking about YOU and your total lack of moral courage. If YOU believe abortion is KILLING BABIES and a SIN then how can YOU not be outraged at both parties if YOU believe both parties support killing babies. I am not advocating for or against the abortion issue or either party's position on the issue. I am questioning YOUR moral courage based upon the statement YOU made. God gave women the right to choose? Well following your logic God gave us all the right to choose any course of conduct and we don't need any law or government to stand between us and our right to choose any thing we do. Sir I believe the moron label that you so casually throw out better describes you.

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#18 Sep 3, 2012
OlFortpreacher wrote:
Everyone knows that Mitt Romney is a Mormon. Kennedy was a catholic. George W. was an evangelical christian. Obama has Muslim roots but confesses to be a christian under the guise of black liberation theology. How important is a persons faith when they are asking for your vote? How will Rooney's faith effect how he governs? How has Obama's faith effected how he governs? what do you think?
So do you think Obama is a black libertarian?
sportsfan71

Wilmington, NC

#19 Sep 3, 2012
I would like to think I have made my moral stance, I have 5 healthy beautiful children. I made my moral choice, I chose pro-life. That does not give me or anyone else the right to say others don't have the right to make the choice thats right for them. I don't understand why it's even a voting issue when both parties support abortion. The only difference I see between them is one recieves Christian votes by labeling themselves Pro-Life, when in fact they are not. I know that's hard for you to understand. I made my choice, maybe you did too, all I'm saying is others have the same right to decide what is right or wrong for their lives. I think we should have laws against murder, for the sake of punishing the guilty, however if someone wants to kill you, that law wont stop them and neither would I. Have a nice day.
OFPreacher

Burnsville, NC

#20 Sep 3, 2012
Mea Maxima Culpa wrote:
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So do you think Obama is a black libertarian?
A black libertarian is many times better than a cult of the devil that believes a fantasy made up of a cult member, devil worshipper,John smith. How can anyone believe accept those that want wealth of this world and think their money will buy a home above?

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