McDowell County ranks 4th for paddlin...

McDowell County ranks 4th for paddling children in school

There are 24 comments on the www.hickoryrecord.com story from Jan 16, 2013, titled McDowell County ranks 4th for paddling children in school. In it, www.hickoryrecord.com reports that:

1/15/13 The practice of corporal punishment, defined as inflicting physical pain to discipline a student, is still legal in North Carolina, but it is entirely up to the school district to decide whether or not to use it as a disciplinary too. McDowell’s Board of Education still believes in the use of corporal punishment.

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Keith

United States

#1 Jan 17, 2013
Looking for a female that knows how to use a paddle,belt,etc on a man needing a blistering.I`m a retired educator needing to be educated that a lady is the boss.
anyone know

Asheville, NC

#2 Jan 18, 2013
Which school board members still support corporal punishment?
tlc

United States

#3 Jan 18, 2013
My kid was paddled in Kindergarten for not doing their work after the teacher was informed the child was suffering from a disorder that caused my kid not to be able to sleep, which in turn made it hard to stay focused. The teacher and myself had already decided to have my kid repeat Kindergarten. I am all for paddling but I want to be the one to decide if the punishment fits he crime. This happened 11 years ago still gets me fired up!!!!! Did mention there was only week left in school. After my kids surgery has been on the AB honor roll all but 2x.

“The orginal”

Since: Jul 11

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#4 Jan 19, 2013
4th in state, country, world?

Stop raising bad children and this won't be an issue.
Or do what I do and hire like 5 nannies per child so that their needs are always met.
puppet master

Greer, SC

#5 Jan 19, 2013
You don't need a nanny and sure can't afford one.
to lutz futz

Asheville, NC

#6 Jan 19, 2013
lulzers wrote:
4th in state, country, world?
Stop raising bad children and this won't be an issue.
Or do what I do and hire like 5 nannies per child so that their needs are always met.
Read the article, lame brain:

Currently, only 12 out 115 public schools still use corporal punishment in North Carolina.

McDowell ranks 4th with the most paddlings out of the freakin 12 - get it?
chubsy

Burnsville, NC

#7 Jan 21, 2013
Ranks 4th in paddling.... Near the bottom in school crime and violence... Do the math:)
TOM VITAGLIONE

Asheville, NC

#8 Jan 22, 2013
Letter to the Editor

Community should have a dialogue about use of corporal punishment

Thank you for your recent coverage of the state report indicating that the use of corporal punishment in the public schools is declining rapidly. The report also indicates that McDowell County Schools ranked fourth in hitting students last year, though the numbers in McDowell are declining as well.

I would like to provide clarification regarding decisions on the use of corporal punishment. State law allows local school boards to allow or prohibit corporal punishment. However, no local board requires that the practice be used. In fact there are at least seven local districts in our state that allow the practice, but a student has not been hit in years. This is because the superintendent and principals make the decision on its use.(Even in Mc-Dowell, not all schools use corporal punishment.) Experienced education professionals know that many, many studies indicate that corporal punishment neither changes behavior nor improves academic outcomes. In fact, Superintendent Gerri Martin’s experience both in our state and internationally is in districts that long ago abandoned corporal punishment.

Thus, it was surprising to see her quote:“Our principals usually do not use corporal punishment unless a parent requests it.” If a family is requesting that a public employee hit their child, this should be seen as a cry for help. Under the most popular method of school discipline in our state — Positive Behavioral Intervention and Support — these families would be brought in and a joint school-family-student plan would be developed to improve student behavior without the threat of inflicted pain. This has been very successful statewide.

Ultimately, decisions regarding the use of corporal punishment in the public schools are local. I encourage the school board, school administrators and families in McDowell to have a dialogue about this sensitive issue. The students of McDowell deserve no less.

TOM VITAGLIONE

Action for Children Raleigh
shocking

Asheville, NC

#9 Jan 22, 2013
I think shock collars work best. Nothng more effective than good old negitve reinforcement. Paddling isn't fast enough. A good shock shortly after bad behavior would curb the behavior very fast

Hey Tom Vitaglione by the sound of your name, your not from around here are you?
to the dufus

Asheville, NC

#10 Jan 23, 2013
chubsy wrote:
Ranks 4th in paddling.... Near the bottom in school crime and violence... Do the math:)
The mcdowell high school drop outs has INCREASED. Explain that, dufus

http://www.hickoryrecord.com/mcdowell_news/ne...
Easy

Burnsville, NC

#11 Jan 23, 2013
to the dufus wrote:
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The mcdowell high school drop outs has INCREASED. Explain that, dufus
http://www.hickoryrecord.com/mcdowell_news/ne...
That takes no explication! Some folks are just dumb, lazy welfare rats who couldn't commit to anything! There will always be dropouts! It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out!

Since: Jan 13

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#12 Feb 4, 2013
This is ridiculous! I didn't know this was going on in public schools. I can see in a private school, but I wouldn't want anyone paddling my son. He would be scared to death, with some stranger admin paddling him.
snow

Kingsport, TN

#13 Feb 8, 2013
TOM VITAGLIONE wrote:
Letter to the Editor
Community should have a dialogue about use of corporal punishment
Thank you for your recent coverage of the state report indicating that the use of corporal punishment in the public schools is declining rapidly. The report also indicates that McDowell County Schools ranked fourth in hitting students last year, though the numbers in McDowell are declining as well.
I would like to provide clarification regarding decisions on the use of corporal punishment. State law allows local school boards to allow or prohibit corporal punishment. However, no local board requires that the practice be used. In fact there are at least seven local districts in our state that allow the practice, but a student has not been hit in years. This is because the superintendent and principals make the decision on its use.(Even in Mc-Dowell, not all schools use corporal punishment.) Experienced education professionals know that many, many studies indicate that corporal punishment neither changes behavior nor improves academic outcomes. In fact, Superintendent Gerri Martin’s experience both in our state and internationally is in districts that long ago abandoned corporal punishment.
Thus, it was surprising to see her quote:“Our principals usually do not use corporal punishment unless a parent requests it.” If a family is requesting that a public employee hit their child, this should be seen as a cry for help. Under the most popular method of school discipline in our state — Positive Behavioral Intervention and Support — these families would be brought in and a joint school-family-student plan would be developed to improve student behavior without the threat of inflicted pain. This has been very successful statewide.
Ultimately, decisions regarding the use of corporal punishment in the public schools are local. I encourage the school board, school administrators and families in McDowell to have a dialogue about this sensitive issue. The students of McDowell deserve no less.
TOM VITAGLIONE
Action for Children Raleigh
this is what i have to say about corporal punishment first of all parents should be inflicting paddling and this is what i told the school when they explain that they did this i told them that i would have them in court if they even laid a hand on my child. there are other means of displining a child other than hitting. what are we teaching our children that hitting is how you get what you want!! violence spreads violence needless to say my child did not get paddled!! and if i am around when my grandchild goes to school they best not paddle her.
agree

Morganton, NC

#15 Feb 8, 2013
snow wrote:
<quoted text>this is what i have to say about corporal punishment first of all parents should be inflicting paddling and this is what i told the school when they explain that they did this i told them that i would have them in court if they even laid a hand on my child. there are other means of displining a child other than hitting. what are we teaching our children that hitting is how you get what you want!! violence spreads violence needless to say my child did not get paddled!! and if i am around when my grandchild goes to school they best not paddle her.
A lady from this county posted on her FB a month ago that she sent the kids outside to fight it out in the front yard. These were teen kids one female one male. I believe the same concept applies here: violence spreads violence! That's why this county is so messed up. Parents aren't teaching their kids morals. Violence is never the answer!
Thank You

Chambersburg, PA

#16 Feb 8, 2013
Thanks
Rita

Poland

#17 Feb 13, 2013
For all American psychopath who support the beating and violence against minors. I really do not know what is wrong with American society. Mayby it's lacks of education, intellect and heart. How can it be treated children. What about the fact that Taylor Santos wanted to be beaten, she is only 15 years old and does not know what is good for her and what does not. Mother of two little girls are not good and valuable people. How they could let their children were beaten. Kirt shaw is none other than a sadistic psychopath. He should be released and should not do as a teacher. The only job for which he is suitable is cleaning toilets. I am proud that my country bound by the Convention of Children's Rights. According to Convention, every child has the right to safety and to show him respect. A child must show respect to the same knew how to find him. Do not beat him to not beat itself. Hitting is wrong and you Americans should recognize it. Violence breeds violence, and the children are our future. Hitting a child is a violation of his human right to dignity and physical integrity. Your country violates human rights! Our schools are free of violence and mass murders. In Europe
Kirt Shaw and Cathi Watts would be in jail, because the beat is a crime. Everybody in Europe knows how low is the level of education in the U.S., and probably this is the cause of your stupidity and brutality. You do not now to bring up your children. You are the cause of world crisis. No one in Europe has a good opinion of you. Shame on you, if not then at least from the people before God.
Another opinion

Charlotte, NC

#18 Feb 13, 2013
I was spanked by my parents when a failed to respond to other forms of discipline. It was not out of anger, it was administered and then was over. I am a reasonably intelligent, functioning member of society, a college graduate and parent of two. I, nor my children ever faced corporal punsihment at school because we were taught at home.

Since: Jan 12

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#19 Feb 13, 2013
Teachers are there to educate students and lead prayer sessions, not spank children. Parents spank, teachers teach....end of conversation.
Carmine

Secaucus, NJ

#21 Feb 13, 2013
Donny Kerabatsos wrote:
Teachers are there to educate students and lead prayer sessions, not spank children. Parents spank, teachers teach....end of conversation.
Bag them groceries. Your ass is butt ugly and you look like you could use some insulin.
Yuup

Four Oaks, NC

#22 Feb 14, 2013
I would support corporal punishment if the Marion teachers would quit hitting the children in the face and knocking their teeth out.

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