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City considers cutting funding to the Chamber

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nthno

Argyle, FL

#1 Aug 1, 2012
Good! Art needs to pack his bags!
Agreed

Columbus, GA

#2 Aug 1, 2012
I think it's stupid of them to even have a Chamber here. Not like weare a major tourist attraction or have the need for such an ogranization.

I say get rid of it all together. The money could be spent much more wisely.
really

Marianna, FL

#3 Aug 1, 2012
I agree with nthno and Agreed why are we funding this with times a tight as they are? Jackson County pretty much speaks for itself.
nthno

Argyle, FL

#4 Aug 1, 2012
I wonder what he uses the 200,000 + dollars a year on. He made it real clear in the paper that he did'nt owe an answer to anyone but the board of directors of the chamber. Thata a LOT OF MONEY!
Not Surprised

Hillsborough, NC

#5 Aug 2, 2012
They now have someone in the TDC position so do they need a chamber to promote Jackson County? Of course not sure what good the TDC will do to add monies to the county, but that position is pretty expensive too in salary, etc. Hopefully it can generate enough money to cover all of that and maybe add money to the county budget. We will have to wait and see.
Citizen

Argyle, FL

#6 Aug 2, 2012
Can you believe the amount of money that is being spent at The Chamber?
According to the paper in 2008, the chamber reported revenue of $196,058, expenses of $225,972, and a resulting deficit of $29,914.
In 2009, the chamber reported revenue of $204,826, expenses of $225,041, and a resulting deficit of $20,215.
In 2010, the chamber reported revenue of $220,953, expenses of $236,625, and a resulting deficit of $15,672.
Now it would seem to me that any person who goes over budget by this much should be held accountable by the board of directors.
I am kind of curious as to what he spent $225,000 a year on. That’s about $20,000 a month.
The chamber reported on two of its largest program expenses. One was a trip to China “to promote business relationships.” The chamber spent $29,684 on the trip and reported $33,334 in revenue generated. Now I need some help here. In my checkbook if I spend $29 and make $33 that gives me a profit of $4. Am I missing something?
The other was the publication of a magazine to promote Jackson County, which generated $15,550 in revenue. So how was this an expense?
So if this China trip was successful, where are the Chinese Jobs? When are they coming? Is the chamber going to “develop the area’s economic climate” with them like they did with the Dollar Store folks? Thanks Art for those high paying jobs.
Now since the Chamber of Commerce is a member-owned, board of directors controlled, private, not-for-profit association, as Kimbrough said, unless you are a member you cannot view its financial records. According to Kimbrough it is not subject to Florida Sunshine laws.
We taxpayers should be outraged that our tax dollars are given to this “private” association and there is no transparency or accountability. What was our tax dollars spent on?
Ford Lover

Freeport, FL

#7 Aug 2, 2012
It's all a big scam created to give big positions to select people. In other words it is another waste of tax payers subsidies, not just chamber members funds. And is used to control the economics and growth more than promote it, if you don't think so just go back and recall what the Chamber did to wreck the higher pay the Dollar store terminal was going to start at! That shows that they are conter productive to the working and even to the group of businesses that they were peddling their influence to by taking money out of circulation. If I can't promote my own business I sure don't need to waste money with a Chamber that is a joke and only for the politically connected.
really

Marianna, FL

#8 Aug 2, 2012
Is it true that the chamber went to Family Dollar Dist when they first came and asked/told them NOT to pay the decent wages people say they planned too so that Gilmore wouldn't have to up wal mart pay the state etc. If it is I hope they do not get their claws into this new textile factory coming in. I know alot of people who will apply and interview their butts off to get out of Wally world, Sunland, FSH where at wall world they never can count on hours and with the state the employees are starving to death. Thanks Rick Scott, Marti, and te band of village idiots for that! Marti thinks because she has an ad where she is walking thru the building bragging about how she got Tally to release incentive funds. Where has she been for the sturggling state worker? some other place but in their corner. Do away with the stupid chamber and its ring of madhatters
WOW

Argyle, FL

#9 Aug 3, 2012
Art kicked Mary to the curb to pave the way for Ms Pukeway. It was a dirty deal that is now coming back to bite him. The chamber needs to be closed and the TDC Done away with. Total waste of money.
king fish

United States

#10 Aug 3, 2012
WOW wrote:
Art kicked Mary to the curb to pave the way for Ms Pukeway. It was a dirty deal that is now coming back to bite him. The chamber needs to be closed and the TDC Done away with. Total waste of money.
Agree
really

Marianna, FL

#11 Aug 3, 2012
why would the chamber from little old marianna travel to China? was this to promote business or was it a vacation did spouses/children/friends of chamber members go? who paid for what, and citizen is correct if tax dollars go to it, its under the sunshine law. and shame there was no investigation on the deficit, the first time there was one, let alone skip over the next year and the year after that. this county is so freaking crooked it isn't funny. It seriously is time for the Feds to come in and poke around.
Not Surprised

Hillsborough, NC

#14 Aug 4, 2012
WOW got it right. Kimbrough paved the way for Fuqua and now it has come back to bite him. This is just the MO for Marianna's self-chosen elite. Kimbrough has been around long enough to know this is the way it works. But he has always played both ends against the middle. Just your turn Art.
Hmmm

New Smyrna Beach, FL

#15 Aug 4, 2012
Which fuqua?
marianna resident

Crestview, FL

#16 Aug 5, 2012
Agreed wrote:
I think it's stupid of them to even have a Chamber here. Not like weare a major tourist attraction or have the need for such an ogranization.
I say get rid of it all together. The money could be spent much more wisely.
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Marianna is a verrrrry big tourist city. We had a war here. We have the caverns. Tons of families come for the Christmas tour. Come on now, think.
mhs65

Santa Rosa Beach, FL

#17 Aug 5, 2012
Art Kimbrough is a waste if good air and should be fired immediately. He brings nothing to the table except hot air. He's a politician, not a Chamber leader and not even e good politician. Get rid of him!
Mr Ahole

Port Saint Joe, FL

#18 Aug 5, 2012
mhs65 wrote:
Art Kimbrough is a waste if good air and should be fired immediately. He brings nothing to the table except hot air. He's a politician, not a Chamber leader and not even e good politician. Get rid of him!
You are so right!! He is full of himself!
Also Informed

Freeport, FL

#19 Aug 5, 2012
There is a lot more to Jackson County than Marianna. And none of it needs a destructive political and questionable band of morons being paid by the people they are supposed to be representing. By backstabbing and misappropriating funds for their personal gains. But the simple minded and the greedy can be easily lead, that's why Marianna's few well-off can manipulate and control the growth and economic levels that all of Jackson County has to live with or without in many cases.

So who do you think is the real Chamber of Commerce?
Really

Argyle, FL

#21 Aug 5, 2012
marianna resident wrote:
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Marianna is a verrrrry big tourist city. We had a war here. We have the caverns. Tons of families come for the Christmas tour. Come on now, think.
Really? Verrrrry big tourist city? Rrrreeeaaallllllyyy? Had a war here? So the whole war was fought in Marianna? Tons of folks... I ain't going there. I am thinking. Ah.... Sorry i still don't see the need to pay for a TDC in Jackson County. It could be ran with volunteers and save that money. How hard is it to promote 3 or 4 places? And the chamber has done nothing but hurt the econimic climate of this county. Glad to see the city cutting the funding. The county needs to do the same. Why fund something that hurts the average citizen?
Not Surprised

Hillsborough, NC

#22 Aug 6, 2012
Art is not a bad guy. Actually he is a very nice person. He was in a position where he had to kiss a lot of a**es. He has been able to do that well for a while, but there is always one you forget to kiss and that is where the problem begins. That person starts a campaign against you and after a few years it becomes large enough to start affecting your job. Again, that is the MO for the self-appointed elite in Marianna. It happens to many of the outsiders who move into Marianna for jobs. Got to keep the natives happy and that is an impossible job. Now they have one of their own heading the TDC - let's watch and see how that goes after a few years.
Native

Milledgeville, GA

#23 Aug 6, 2012
I have lived here my entire life and I like it here. However, I have to say I think it's ridiculous to have a chamber and a tourist development council. WHY?????? Who is going to come to Marianna for a vacation?

A day-trip to the Caverns and maybe a float down the Chipola is about as good as you are going to do.

What else does this town have to offer TOURISTS? They get here, finish the Chipola in about 4 hours, half that time to see the Caverns. Some vacation huh? You would think the Chinese visitors would have come here by now, wouldn't you, since the purpose of their trip was to "promote" tourism. SERIOUSLY ART......start advertising with the bordering states and move regional... to China just seems like ya'll got a nice vacation on our dime!

Not to mention where to eat in this town? McDonalds? Wendys? Zaxbys? KFC? Sonnys? There is not one decent restaurant to eat at in this town.

Chamber of Commerce is useless here as is the Tourist Development Council. Both should be eliminated.

Good for the City of Marianna in recognizing this is a waste of money. Encourage the county commissioners to do the same.

And as far as the person saying Art is a nice guy. Yes, he is. But being nice doesn't mean the taxpayers should provide him a J-O-B.

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