Sunland as well as other state run fa...

Sunland as well as other state run facilities will go private

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Since: Jan 11

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#1 Feb 8, 2011
Sunland as well as other state run places will be going private.
This also includes the prisons in the area. Blackwater will be taking over them.
JCR

Shalimar, FL

#2 Feb 8, 2011
Hope so, then you'll see people have to go to work and not ride the state wave.
Do Right to Be Right

Leesburg, FL

#3 Feb 8, 2011
JCR - "ride the state wave"? It's not a surfing contest, Dude. These are jobs that people wiser than yourself, over years and years of debate and review, decided must be done. Where was the private sector in years past? Well, there was a time when the State leased inmates to private citizens for work - privatization. It was ruled to be unconstitutional.

In the meantime, who did the job when pay was nothing, or when working conditions ran others off? Oh, right, no one wanted those jobs then. Now that people like yourself can't do better, you begrudge State employees the jobs they do when people like you cannot or won't.

If you think you're going to save tax dollars, you're a fool. Get your wallet ready, because Rick Scott knows how to get hold of tax dollars.

This is change you can believe in - get used to it. Because it's going to touch everyone's wallet before it's over.
Sunland

Argyle, FL

#4 Feb 8, 2011
Those people who work there do an excellent job and provide many opportunities for the residents!
Fed Up

Langston, AL

#5 Feb 10, 2011
Looks like the purpose of government is to provide jobs aka workers unite....the purpose of private business is to make a so-called evil profit, then iff necessary, individuals are hired and they have to save for their own 401k type retirements.

The elected officials love uniting these state workers as they can ALWAYS count on their vote...who is looking out for the average citizen...?

Since: Jan 11

Location hidden

#6 Feb 10, 2011
state workers should had done like I did.
When I first started a found out the great pensions from the state only paid 50% of your best 5 years. I started putting away 10% in my own retirement sstem, stayedout of credit card debt, car debts, toy debts.
a person can make it on their own retirement.
my total expenses is $650 per month not including food.
people need to cut off cable watch tv on internet for free.
people need to stop buying new cars with dvds in them evey 4 years, a car should last you 10 years
ntheno

Fort Walton Beach, FL

#7 Feb 10, 2011
JCR wrote:
Hope so, then you'll see people have to go to work and not ride the state wave.
Why dont you go out there and work for 1 week. Talk then. I worked there and believe me the direct care staff are underpaid.
waterbillpayer

Tallahassee, FL

#8 Feb 25, 2011
do whatd?
Could B U

Freeport, FL

#9 Mar 5, 2011
Til you walked the walk, U can't talk nothing but BS and cast stones. Be careful one might bounce back to your glass house.
Everyone better wake up and defend NW Fla. If they were to privatize the state facil. in our area it would be bad, But if the facil.& JOBS were to be moved to another part of the state our area would prob. completely colapse. Even if you don't work for the state it WILL effect you and your family.
There is no way our area can absorb the loss of thousands of jobs without people moving away. Homes and properties (vehicles,land & etc)will be repod by the banks. Those that don't think it will effect them better wake-up & try to help save our area. I truly hope we don't lose the jobs regardless. OPEN YOURS EYES to the big picture
Could B U

Freeport, FL

#10 Mar 5, 2011
Speaking about Jackson county Fla & surrounding area. Don't know where "Freeport Fla" came from but they will be effected also.Thanks
Fed Up

Elberton, GA

#11 Mar 5, 2011
Casting stones is not nearly as bad as STEALING...as a matter of fact, if people aren't mad about public jobs right now, there probably in one...on a scale of 1 - 100, which jobs are really needed to be public...?

100 = public roads/state police
90 = public waterways
50 = law enforcement
10 = fire departments
1 = welfare workers

Since: Jan 11

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#12 Mar 6, 2011
First, Jackson, calhoun, gasden, and liberity counties will become a ghoast town if the state facalities become private.
People would have to leave to find work, unlike 30 years ago, a family could live off a state income not anymore.
unlike 30 years ago, a farmer could grow a crop a carpenter could do work and make a living but not now.
if these state facailties go private, people will not have money to spend in the community.
If a pirave company takes them over, they will not pay as much
Fed Up

United States

#13 Mar 6, 2011
Who is going to work at these private facilities...? The pay might be more depending on how public pensions are changed...

Since: Feb 11

Saint Petersburg, FL

#14 Mar 6, 2011
private companies are not matching 401K contributions any more, nor helping with health insurance, nor paying for performace.
All they are intersted in is PROFITS.
They can be sued. All it takes is one lawsuit, then the private company gets sued, the state gets sued, then the private company goes out of business, then the state has to take the project back and reissue funds again.
JCR

Shalimar, FL

#15 Mar 8, 2011
Please explain to me why the tax payers owe the state workers their insurance and retirement for free.

Since: Feb 11

Saint Petersburg, FL

#16 Mar 20, 2011
state workers pay taxes too.
I paid $6,452. last year, my wife works with the state. I worked for the state now disable. we have 4 kids.
my wife has a side business, we have 8 mobile homes, 4 apartments 3 houses, and 3 farms that we own or lease.
we put in up to the limites on our roth IRA, we have a SEP, and a health savings account
we paid almost $14,000 in proprty taxes last year
we pay $6,452.00 last year.
I do not mind paying taxes, I love the IRS, that is where I got the funiture for my house and a couple of mobile homes for an IRS auction
Big Picture

Argyle, FL

#17 Mar 21, 2011
Here's a possible scenario. State privatizes Sunland, Fla State Hospital and area prisons. Private contractors after a year or so reveal that another county down south somewhere actually wants their business more, offering them tax breaks and maybe vacant buildings to use if they move there. Citing reduced operating costs, the privatizers close the local facilities and offer jobs to anyone who wants to move to, Ocala, Orlando, etc.

What's left here? No jobs, so local businesses have to shut their doors. More jobs gone. More businesses close. Property values drop because there are no jobs for people to move here and buy homes. Now, property taxes fall along with values. County and towns have less money to operate on. More layoffs, police, fire/rescue/ road maintenance, etc. Slowly, this area becomes one ghost town after another. Downtown shops die back even more. Wal=Mart closes due to lack of business.

All this because it was a "good idea" to privatize state jobs and save a few bucks (maybe). Be careful and be sure to see the big picture.

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