Parent: School, politics a bad mix

Parent: School, politics a bad mix

There are 58 comments on the Lowell Sun story from Oct 28, 2010, titled Parent: School, politics a bad mix. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

What started as a discussion about the impending elections in Massachusetts and ballot Question 3 at Nissitissit Middle School in Pepperell has turned into a debate about whether it is appropriate for a teacher to express political opinions in the classroom.

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Hat Trick

Londonderry, NH

#1 Oct 28, 2010
Does mom realize that 7th graders don't vote?
I am the jesus

Salem, NH

#2 Oct 28, 2010
The kids probably asked her. This isn't a story at all.

Spend your effort going after the people who write the text books, that's what's really scary.
Elmers

Littleton, MA

#3 Oct 28, 2010
Does this mom realize that if question 3 passes, the student's education will be impacted?
Student's need to be aware of what is happening in their immediate world, and what will impact them; not Iran or Venezuela's politics.
How long will this mom be able to shield their baby from real world?
Butterscotch

Dracut, MA

#4 Oct 28, 2010
Front page headline? The Sun does not get the concept of what constitutes news.
citizen

Lowell, MA

#5 Oct 28, 2010
Hopefully when the kid got home, his parents set him straight. Told him the truth, it's just a scare tactic that most people see through.
All Shook Up

Litchfield, NH

#6 Oct 28, 2010
Please, just the facts: IF question 3 passes, the state of MA will experience a 4.5 Billion (total) dollar deficit. The magnitude of this projected deficit, combined with numerous previous years of under-funding school budgets, will substantially and dramatically erode the integrity of public education; most especially in regional schools districts.
lowell taxpayer

Lowell, MA

#7 Oct 28, 2010
How can anyone be so naive as to believe that cutting taxes will have no impact on schools? Why shouldn't children be told the truth?
really

Lowell, MA

#8 Oct 28, 2010
I cannot believe that the parent is went to the school committee over this, they have more important issues to deal with. Ever heard of the first amendment? If the parents disagree with the teacher's view, they have an opportunity to discuss their plans and why they would vote a certain way. Do they realize we live in a democratic country? We are talking middle school, not kindergarten.

I talk openly with my children about why people support different candidates and views. I also discuss how certain things passing will impact our family.

So now teachers will not actually teach government issues as a part of social studies. I remember being in school having mock debates and elections. No wonder teachers are afraid to do that. IT'S NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT TO VOICE YOUR OPINIONS!!!! WHAT A GENERATION WE ARE RAISING!!!IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, GO TATTLE TO THE PRINCIPAL!!!
Noneedtoknow

Concord, MA

#9 Oct 28, 2010
Leave the dramatics at the door. Its just another example of parents wanting to run the schools. Dis the parent ever think to have a discussion with the child about both sides of the issue and let them decide.
what

Chelmsford, MA

#10 Oct 28, 2010
What a nut! This is a social studies class. They should be looking at local current events and examining them. She will have to explain why there are more drastic cuts to the schools AFTER it passes if it does. What is so wrong about expressing that fear. I don't believe for a second that any of those 7th graders were anxious due to this teacher's lesson. They are only concerned about who they have a crush on or who likes them and what everyone else is wearing.
Mom of Two

Tewksbury, MA

#11 Oct 29, 2010
While I discuss my political beliefs with my children, it is against the law for a teacher to discuss his or hers. Ideas, and ballot questions can be discussed without the teacher giving a personal opinion. Teachers have power over the student's grades, and because of this, a student who disagrees with the teacher, may not feel free to argue his/her point.
Tony

Northborough, MA

#12 Oct 29, 2010
All Shook Up wrote:
Please, just the facts: IF question 3 passes, the state of MA will experience a 4.5 Billion (total) dollar deficit. The magnitude of this projected deficit, combined with numerous previous years of under-funding school budgets, will substantially and dramatically erode the integrity of public education; most especially in regional schools districts.
You are correct. Beacon Hill will make cuts to hurt the voters instead of cutting all the existing waste. So teachers, fire, and police will be cut instead of the high paying state jobs help by politician's friends and family.
Leominster Resident

North Uxbridge, MA

#13 Oct 29, 2010
There are commercials that STATE the same thing. I'm sure your child has seen this on the t.v the past 2 weeks at least once. So we should go after the stations for STATING the same thing. Let's not blow this out of poportion. Use this opportunity to discuss this at the dinner table. You can even word it as " yes the teacher did say that, and I feel that's her opion, but here is how I feel about the situation...." Instead of running around acting like your heads are being cut off, Have a political discussion with your child, not only be a parent, but be a teacher!
Libertarian

Bedford, MA

#14 Oct 29, 2010
Hat Trick wrote:
Does mom realize that 7th graders don't vote?
Being fairly new out of HS, 3 years, I can assume you have not seen the area teachers in action lately? Hat Trick you must be in a coma of some sort because the teachers have been training up the next generation of socialists and liberals right under all your noses. Every teacher I had was critical of something, Bush, Cheney, etc. Some were teaching green energy and global warming while we were trying to learn Math and English. 7th graders do indeed not vote, but the influence put upon the young child's psyche is hard to dismiss. Look at Obama for instance, dont you think he retained some of his teachings from the Madrassa's in Indonesia? That early influence stays with you forever....
laughable

Lowell, MA

#15 Oct 29, 2010
Mom of Two wrote:
While I discuss my political beliefs with my children, it is against the law for a teacher to discuss his or hers. Ideas, and ballot questions can be discussed without the teacher giving a personal opinion. Teachers have power over the student's grades, and because of this, a student who disagrees with the teacher, may not feel free to argue his/her point.
Exactly what law is that????
MTA

East Hampton, CT

#16 Oct 29, 2010
We're working hard in the schools to brainwash your children at every grade level. We view all little children as future teachers of America and as educators we should shape their minds and help them form opinions. We don't care what parents and other taxpayers think; just pay-up and shut-up. We're the Massachusetts Teachers Association and we know best.
Mom of Two

Tewksbury, MA

#17 Oct 30, 2010
laughable wrote:
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Exactly what law is that????
Ok, I re-read the article, and mis stated the law they were discussing. It doesn't change my opinion that teachers should teach and not discuss their personal opinion regarding ballot questions without offering the opposing view.
portly

North Attleboro, MA

#18 Oct 30, 2010
The fact of the matter is, this exactly the same type of behavior from the teachers and union as when the prop 2 1/2 ballot question was to be voted on. The teacher were very vocal in classes to students about what was going to be cut if it passed. It scared the heck out of us, they knew it would and they did it with the express purpose of having the students go home and tell their parents so that they would vote against it.

I vividly remember going home and telling my father what we were told and that I hoped he wouldn't vote for it. That conversation turned into a watershed event in my relationship with my father as he patiently explained to me how he saw the situation and why it disgusted him. I am very proud of my father. Each time I see this type of behavior from the teachers and union I know that I'm sure to be having similar conversations with my children as they get older because this awful pattern of self serving behavior on the part of teachers and unions of scaring children to get to the parents is not ever going to change.

This is rotten and any teacher that participates in this should be ashamed of themselves.

Chelmsford teachers have a veiled threat to not write reference letters for seniors. They say its not going to happen and that the 'teachers' refused to go with it. Guess what !! The union are the teachers.

Shame, shame, shame !!!
portly

North Attleboro, MA

#19 Oct 30, 2010
All Shook Up wrote:
Please, just the facts: IF question 3 passes, the state of MA will experience a 4.5 Billion (total) dollar deficit. The magnitude of this projected deficit, combined with numerous previous years of under-funding school budgets, will substantially and dramatically erode the integrity of public education; most especially in regional schools districts.
4.5 billion shortfall ... People are leaving this state is droves .. Its not expanding. Maybe the government could shrink a little too?

Deval Patrick added 2000 jobs to the state payroll when he took office. He then cut 1000 and claimed that he was shrinking government. Just another fraud .... Vote the bums out, all of them. And next election, vote the new bums out too. That's what I call bi-partisan .... I'm sick of these leaches getting rich off of our tax dollars and their graft.
Since when

Chelmsford, MA

#20 Oct 30, 2010
It is not against the law for a techer to discuss their political beliefs. I agree that discussions can be had with the teacher withholding their personal opinion, but they are NOT legally stopped from sharing their opinions. Many students love to disagree and debate with a teacher. Those that are not comfortable arguing their own point, does not have to. They can keep it to themselves. I know many adults who choose not to debate others when it comes to politics and religion. Some people are not comfortable debating issues, those that are comfortable do.
Mom of Two wrote:
While I discuss my political beliefs with my children, it is against the law for a teacher to discuss his or hers. Ideas, and ballot questions can be discussed without the teacher giving a personal opinion. Teachers have power over the student's grades, and because of this, a student who disagrees with the teacher, may not feel free to argue his/her point.

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