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Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

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JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48438 Feb 3, 2013
SEXUAL REPRODUCTION - A COMPLETE CATHARSIS OF THE SUBCONSCIENT:

Sexual reproduction is a complete catharsis of the contents of the parental subconscious mind elements that mould the conceived offspring's emotional and psychological states. It is too animalistic and perverse a method of procreation. Cloning is superior but the technology is not perfected as of yet.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48439 Feb 3, 2013
idgaf wrote:
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The only bad part of becoming a man and putting childish ways behind you is structured thinking, which tends to limit the mind's creativity. You want to reason like a man. You want to speak like a man. You really want to think like a man with the limitless boundaries of a child.
True, but don't lose your innocence and sense of wonder in the process, otherwise your adult reasoning and mature speaking will reduce you to the state of an automaton or worse convert you into a hardened and narrow-minded crass materialist who ignorantly assumes that matter is the warp and woof of existence.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48440 Feb 3, 2013
NBINGO/IDGAF - NO POLITICS, PLEASE!

Please refrain from discussing dirty politics concerning the US, Israel, China, India or any other nation on this august forum.

Politics is a low, parochial, disgusting and deceitful game and the last refuge of scoundrels.

Introduce meaningful questions or interesting topics for general debate among the posters.

Thank you.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#48441 Feb 3, 2013
JOEL wrote:
NBINGO/IDGAF - NO POLITICS, PLEASE!
Please refrain from discussing dirty politics concerning the US, Israel, China, India or any other nation on this august forum.
Politics is a low, parochial, disgusting and deceitful game and the last refuge of scoundrels.
Introduce meaningful questions or interesting topics for general debate among the posters.
Thank you.
He has every right to post whatever he chooses.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#48442 Feb 3, 2013
JOEL wrote:
Introduce meaningful questions or interesting topics for general debate among the posters.
Thank you.
Are you going to watch the game?
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48443 Feb 3, 2013
SOMNATH, MANNATH, KAABA, DR ROMILA THAPAR & PROPHET MUHAMMAD:

Dr Romilia Thapar, co-winner with Peter Brown of the prestigious Kluge Prize for the Study of Humanity for 2008 which comes with a US$1 million prize, claims, in a highly provocative book, SOMNATH, that this famous Shiva Temple in India was razed and sacked by Muslim warlords like Muhammad of Ghazni, Alauddin Khilji and others on numerous occasions in the middle ages since it houses the reviled aniconic stone idol of the pre-Islamic goddess, Mannath, supposedly one of the 3 daughters of Allah, that was secretly shipped to India and installed at Somnath. Ironically, Muhammad desecrated and destroyed 360 images in the Kaaba, including the aniconic stone image of Mannath, but hugged, wept and kissed another aniconic stone (resembling a Shiva Linga) in the Kaaba. Besides, I wonder how Dr Thapar could equate the Shiva Linga in Somnath with the aniconic stone dedicated to Mannath in the Kaaba since the Shiva Linga is a symbol of the cosmic masculine principle of dissolution, while Mannath is a pre-Islamic Arab goddess with entirely different characteristics.

Think it over!
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48444 Feb 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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He has every right to post whatever he chooses.
Refined and intelligent people with a universal outlook don't dabble in lowly fields like politics, prostitution, rabid nationalism and religious bigotry, which, in a debate among hardcore fanatics blinded by religious mumbo jumbo and false ideas of supporting one's own community, faith, scripture, culture and/or nation at any cost, invariably take on a parochial hue that leads to unnecessary friction and a waste of energy, time and consciousness.

Why do you bother so much about the fate of the Israel when you are a US citizen?

In what way is Israel a prized asset to the world?

Thousands of Israels, Americas, Chinas and Indias have been born and have perished over time and many more will come into existence and fade into the dust and be forgotten, while the march of the mind-matter evolution on earth continues unabated until a high state of individual and collective perfection is attained.

Politics is a dirty game that has more hidden dimensions to it than any overt evaluation of the subject that any internet link or newspaper article can point out and rarely are these media resources free of bias.

Keep focussed on good karma and on the meaningful aspects of existence in the spirit of universalism.

Thank you.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48445 Feb 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Are you going to watch the game?
The Superbowl?(tongue-in-cheek).

(smiles)
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48446 Feb 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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So does Donald Duck and Big Bird
HughBe---Jesus loves YOU, Frijoles

Frijoles---So does Donald Duck and Big Bird

HughBe--- Your words indicate that you have skipped your medication.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48447 Feb 3, 2013
THE BUDDHA - ANOTHER SPIRITUAL PYGMY & FAILURE:

BUDDHA was an escapist who preached escapism from earth and life by stepping out via a static nirvana from the individual and universal currents while leaving the mind, vital-emotions, body and earth nature to their unregenerate fate.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

Location hidden

#48448 Feb 3, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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Why do you bother so much about the fate of the Israel when you are a US citizen?
He asked a valid question, so I decided to answer him.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48449 Feb 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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Act like your Jesus
and btw I answered your questions. If you want more than that, kiss my ....
Frijoles---Act like YOUR Jesus

HughBe--- DUNCE, am I a Jew? Why is YOUR Jesus not a part of US? Oh, WRETCHED Judahite that you are.

Frijole---and btw I answered your questions

HughBe--- LIAR.
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48450 Feb 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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and Homer Simpson loves YOU, Hughbe.
HughBe--Jesus loves YOU, Frijoles.

Frijoles--and Homer Simpson loves YOU, Hughbe.

HughBe--- Delusional
HughBe

Kingston, Jamaica

#48451 Feb 3, 2013
MUQ wrote:
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Love is a "Two way street" Hugh Be, never ONE WAY.
Think about it.
MUQ---Love is a "Two way street" Hugh Be, never ONE WAY.

Think about it.

HughBe--- I have observed over the course of my life that LOVE or affections are not always mutual or a two way street.

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#48452 Feb 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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HughBe--Jesus loves YOU, Frijoles.
Frijoles--and Homer Simpson loves YOU, Hughbe.
HughBe--- Delusional
Prove my delusional Homer is any less delusional than your delusional Jesus

“Legumes of the World Unite ”

Since: Sep 11

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#48453 Feb 3, 2013
HughBe wrote:
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Frijoles---Act like YOUR Jesus
HughBe--- DUNCE, am I a Jew? Why is YOUR Jesus not a part of US? Oh, WRETCHED Judahite that you are.
and you wonder why you have no followers? You sound senile.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#48454 Feb 3, 2013
JOEL wrote:
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What do you mean by G-d?
What kind of G-d do you worship?- a scriptural G-d? an archetypal being of a plane of the cosmic hierarchy? or what?
What have been, if any, your direct experiences of the gross and subtle states of consciousness? How did you experience these? What have been the results?
What is your take on the 13th, 14th, 15th and 16th planes of cosmic consciousness-energy which is the plane of the supermind?
What exceeds the supramental realm?
How many currents does the vital/life force/breath of life have? How does it penetrate and function in matter and body?
rabbee: well TheG-D WHO actually came, to visit with me here in This Story of ThePhysical Creation again. so i Worship BOTH my PARENT, like most children worship their parents also. for i am always THEIR, Eternal Male Child. cause i did not get to choose, WHO my Parent is either. There is but One HEAVEN, or Heaven on earth. but there are, many insane diverse levels of hells. there is no complexity, in HEAVEN or Heaven on earth. complexity only exists, in hell of hells. and there is but ONE True G-D, WHO is TheGiver of TheOUR True Story here in IT. even if none of you, are true to G-D, here in TheStory again.
rabbee yehoshooah adam

Denver, CO

#48455 Feb 3, 2013
JOEL wrote:
QUESTION:
How true is this assertion - change is the only thing we can be certain of?
rabbee: but the mo, has always been for the worse. and almost always, never for the betterment.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48456 Feb 3, 2013
BUDDHA & THE DOWN FALL OF INDIA:

TO A FOOL LIKE THE BUDDHA, existence was simply a mass of never ending changes since his archetypal consciousness was enmeshed in the unregenerate surface nature where he perceived that birth, decay and death were the common features everywhere.

Nothing stood still to his vision.

However, a little thought reveals that change is a series of states of consciousness and energy ranging from perfect rest to the highest transience.

We evaluate change by either referring it to our common notions of past, present and future or by comparing something moving at a slower or higher pace to our own state of motion or change.

So, in this sense, nature functions according to a hierarchy or in other words there exists a marked gradation in nature and being.

The state of perfection would be a perfect poise among all the elements with each in its own rightful place in the cosmic gradation supporting the others and playing its own true role in its own space-time instead of clashing with other aspects and thereby creating chaos.

The gradations are in a greater state of flux on the surface than in higher states that reflect greater poise on account of their superior information content.

Buddha simply saw the surface ripples and hastily concluded that everything in nature and being is in a constant state of change and so the best way to beat this maddening chaos that leads to suffering, ups and downs, decay and death was to escape from earth by entering trance and quitting the body to escape into some subtler plane where he imagined that the spatio-temporal and phenomenal conditions were better than on the terrestrial plane.

So, a stepping out from the universal currents was his idea of salvation - a static state.

This static poise wears out after a time as the yogi in nirvana has still to work out his past unregenerate karma in keeping with the mind-matter causal laws and so the psychic of the yogi is tugged at and as a result it descends with all its accumulated psychological, vital-emotional and physical tendencies to once again take birth on the plane of matter.

Buddha knew nothing about perfection via supramentalization based on the unification principle of the inferior planes of mind, vital and matter where everything is perpetually in a state of transience and so he preached escapism - a most sterile and cowardly yoga.

His immature teachings have further ruined the stato-dynamic balance of the terrestrial nature and induced millions of highly capable young men and women to renounce life and enter the monasteries and in this manner the better set of genes were not passed on via marriage and procreation and those who entered into wedlock and procreated thus propagated inferior genes and not surprisingly many females of superior breed who were unable to find males with matching heredity were forced to enter into damaging hypogamous marriages with males of inferior genetic breeds and in this way a whole mass of abnormal people with unbalanced reflexes and retarded minds were born in India with damaging consequences to the national gene pool and culture.
JOEL

Mumbai, India

#48457 Feb 3, 2013
Frijoles wrote:
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He asked a valid question, so I decided to answer him.
Ok, Papa.

I understand.

I want you to really prosper in all ways in life.

My best wishes and force are always with you.

Take care.

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