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Maple Resident

Beachwood, OH

#54 Sep 9, 2013
We have some pretty rotten laws and rules. The law bends more towards the renter than the landlord.

I had an uncle who died in 1985 that had a small apartment complex in Lakewood on Franklyn Blvd. He'd tell me on how some renters would stop their rent payment and then just move out. Or trash the apartment and leave. He'd then fix the place up, new sink counters, paint the walls, redo the bathroom, then rent it out just to be trashed all over again. I remember him saying that if a renter stops paying his or her rent, all he can do is go to his lawyer and tell him about it, the lawyer files papers in court and then about 9 months later to a year, the tenants get evicted. I don't know if it's the same now but that's what it was like years ago. So, just like you said, the renters are living there for free until they get booted out. And I bet they feel it's their right to do so.

Are these renters the only ones in the building not paying? How many suites do you have there?
Annie

Twinsburg, OH

#55 Sep 9, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
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All my tenants have month-to-month leases. They can leave at anytime, or I can cancel their lease at anytime.
In my lease, there is a clause that states rental collections more than seven days late requires a ten dollar per day charge. They never paid that either.
When the mother of the children tried to negotiate with me, I told her of my concerns. I told her that our priorities are much different. My first priority is to bring home money. My second is to keep a roof over my head. Cable television, cigarettes, internet services, multiple pets, all preside over their obligation to pay rent. My priority list is much different than theirs.
She stays at home supposedly to home school their children. I'm a supporter of home schooling, but not at the expense of not paying bills such as rent.
The answer to their problem is quite simple really. Either he gets a part-time job working weekends, or she can enroll her children in public school and daycare for the four year old and get a full-time job herself. That's two incomes, way too much to ask of any American. At the very least, get rid of the four pets they are feeding and purchasing kitty litter for while taxpayers are stuck with the bill feeding their family.
They have done none of these things. They continue to display irresponsibility at every corner. Hell, his evection court date was last Friday, and he didn't even bother showing up!
I only give breaks to people who are actually trying--not those trying to use me as they have our safety net system. Because I cannot accept rent until they are gone, they are ordering pizzas, going to the store nearly every day or evening, smoking more than I've ever seen them smoke before. Why not? They're not paying rent, so use the money they have for all these other goodies.
Why do people with no jobs, no means of support other than the government, always have so many pets who are usually as mangy, unruly, and as neglected as their children?
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#56 Sep 9, 2013
Annie wrote:
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Why do people with no jobs, no means of support other than the government, always have so many pets who are usually as mangy, unruly, and as neglected as their children?
Because we live in a country that promotes irresponsibility. If you promote irresponsibility, don't be surprised when you have more irresponsible people. Democrats love irresponsible people.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#57 Sep 9, 2013
Maple Resident wrote:
We have some pretty rotten laws and rules. The law bends more towards the renter than the landlord.
I had an uncle who died in 1985 that had a small apartment complex in Lakewood on Franklyn Blvd. He'd tell me on how some renters would stop their rent payment and then just move out. Or trash the apartment and leave. He'd then fix the place up, new sink counters, paint the walls, redo the bathroom, then rent it out just to be trashed all over again. I remember him saying that if a renter stops paying his or her rent, all he can do is go to his lawyer and tell him about it, the lawyer files papers in court and then about 9 months later to a year, the tenants get evicted. I don't know if it's the same now but that's what it was like years ago. So, just like you said, the renters are living there for free until they get booted out. And I bet they feel it's their right to do so.
Are these renters the only ones in the building not paying? How many suites do you have there?
I have five rental units including the one I live in. These are double homes on a very nice property.

In Garfield Heights, they only give you ten days to move out after the court hearing. Then you need to file for another court date to reclaim the money owed to you by the tenants.

I hired a lawyer that doesn't know what he's doing in these matters. He went to court to represent me and as I stated, the tenant didn't show up. Beforehand, I told him I wouldn't expect the tenant to show up, he told me it would be a slam dunk. If the tenant didn't show up, the court would rule in my favor and issue the eviction. It didn't work out that way. I called him today and he said at least one of us had to show up in court.

He said the court will reschedule and give us another date. Haven't heard from them either so again, I don't know if this lawyer knows what he's talking about. After he filed for the first court date, they were here the next day handing over the notice to my tenant and I had notification in the mail.

I can't understand it. WTF does the court need me in court for? I did everything by the book and I only want a court eviction notice. What do they need from me that my lawyer can't handle? Don't they realize people have jobs? It's difficult for me to get out of work which is why I hired a lawyer. After all, the defendant is not contesting the eviction obviously. Hell, I had a friend that used to get traffic tickets all the time. He never seen court once. Every time he got a ticket, he gave it to his lawyer and that was that. He always ended up paying a fine and no points on his license. Why can't I do something like that?

Our legal system sucks.
Maple Resident

Beachwood, OH

#58 Sep 9, 2013
I wonder if it has anything to do with you having income property and being a landlord. You know how the city likes to make it rough on landlords and home buyers and sellers with all the fees and violations. Maybe they just want to cost you more money by taking you away from your job for a few hours. I wouldn't put it past them for that. We need to bring back the 'good old days' where when someone misses a rent payment, a couple guys named Guido and Luko pay the renters a visit and, eh....help them move out.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#59 Sep 10, 2013
I would be happy if they'd just let me change the locks when the tenants left the unit unoccupied.

What if I had rental property here but lived in Nevada or Florida? Would they want me to fly all the way back here to Garfield Heights just to throw out a tenant? What if I were wealthy and had 150 units where it's likely I'd have an evection at least once a month?
Annie

Twinsburg, OH

#60 Sep 10, 2013
xxxrayted wrote:
I would be happy if they'd just let me change the locks when the tenants left the unit unoccupied.
What if I had rental property here but lived in Nevada or Florida? Would they want me to fly all the way back here to Garfield Heights just to throw out a tenant? What if I were wealthy and had 150 units where it's likely I'd have an evection at least once a month?
I'm really on the fence with this. 50% of landlords are POS who take advantage of those on the down side and keep their rental properties deplorable, barely fit for animal shelter. Then there is the 50% of renters that are disrespectful filthy thieving POS. As I've posted before [I think] I wouldn't want to be in the rental business in Garfield, Maple or Bedford. Cleveland is an entirely different planet.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#61 Sep 10, 2013
Annie wrote:
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I'm really on the fence with this. 50% of landlords are POS who take advantage of those on the down side and keep their rental properties deplorable, barely fit for animal shelter. Then there is the 50% of renters that are disrespectful filthy thieving POS. As I've posted before [I think] I wouldn't want to be in the rental business in Garfield, Maple or Bedford. Cleveland is an entirely different planet.
50/50 is about right when it comes to tenants. With the exception of the white trash I'm trying to kick out, all my other tenants are great people. They all pay their rent usually within the first two weeks of the month. But I've had my troubles in the past with not so desirable tenants.

Rent is up, up up because so many got screwed when they tried to own a house. Ownership is not for everybody. In fact, I was reading the Neighborhood News last week and there was not one rental posted for Garfield, Maple or Bedford with the exception of whole houses. We now have a record number of renters in the US. This is good for me because I can pick and choose them instead of the other way around like it was during the housing boom.

But all and all, I still like my part-time business. I have another 14 years before retirement, and this place may be able to supplement my income so I'm not relying on SS and my IRA alone. That is of course if I stay here.
Maple Resident

Beachwood, OH

#62 Sep 10, 2013
So those people in your rental unit, I wonder where they'll go when they get booted out? Probably sponge in on some of their family members. So, why couldn't they have made those arrangements sooner so they wouldn't be missing all these monthly payments? People do strange things to try to squeeze as much out of others as they can. We sure have some stupid laws that cater to the 'users'. But, Obama will fix that by giving everyone jobs in the military when he single handedly starts WWIII! lol
Annie

Twinsburg, OH

#63 Sep 11, 2013
Maple Resident wrote:
So those people in your rental unit, I wonder where they'll go when they get booted out? Probably sponge in on some of their family members. So, why couldn't they have made those arrangements sooner so they wouldn't be missing all these monthly payments? People do strange things to try to squeeze as much out of others as they can. We sure have some stupid laws that cater to the 'users'. But, Obama will fix that by giving everyone jobs in the military when he single handedly starts WWIII! lol
Isn't Obama & Co. suppose to create and hire 70,000 "navigators" to guide people and sign up people for Obama Care? The estimated start off salary will be approx $40,000. I wonder how many will be ACORN people.

AS to your wondering where these people will go------they'll go and squat with other renters who are biding their time until they are evicted, which could take a year or longer. A friend of mine has a son with 2 babies and the babies mama { while they were split up she had another baby with another man}. Now the 4 of them live in a house in Cleveland with 14 other family members of the babies mama. My friend is disgusted, says they live like pigs, are always doped up and drunk, and the house is totally trashed. She won't go there and since no one living there has a license or legal car, she does not see her son or grandchildren. But, she says her son is a punk and a gang member and she won't be around it.
Maple Resident

Beachwood, OH

#64 Sep 11, 2013
Annie wrote:
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Isn't Obama & Co. suppose to create and hire 70,000 "navigators" to guide people and sign up people for Obama Care? The estimated start off salary will be approx $40,000. I wonder how many will be ACORN people.
AS to your wondering where these people will go------they'll go and squat with other renters who are biding their time until they are evicted, which could take a year or longer. A friend of mine has a son with 2 babies and the babies mama { while they were split up she had another baby with another man}. Now the 4 of them live in a house in Cleveland with 14 other family members of the babies mama. My friend is disgusted, says they live like pigs, are always doped up and drunk, and the house is totally trashed. She won't go there and since no one living there has a license or legal car, she does not see her son or grandchildren. But, she says her son is a punk and a gang member and she won't be around it.
Maybe those 70,000 jobs are the jobs Omama said he was going to create. Too bad those jobs aren't productive jobs though. What I mean is, you work at burger king and sell a product. some of the profit from the product is used to pay the employee. Work in a factory, you make products to be sold. The money for the sale of the product is partially used to pay the employee. Ok, so take one of these Omama 'Don't' Care workers making $40k a year....what profit money pays them, taxpayer money? Oh good! So then either he'll raise our taxes or just borrow more money from China. Maybe just raise the national debt. And can you imagine all the screw ups there'll be if it's mostly ACORN people working that job? lol! By the time people get to the front of the line, they'll be dead from old age! lololol! 3 more years! 3 more years! 3 more years! Then we'll get a Mexican president, Rubio! And then it'll be 8 more years! 8 more years! >:(

I'm sure those people all living in that house will fair pretty good with free Obama Care, especially if they're black. And they'll always have food stamps to sell for drugs and use welfare money for eh....drugs. And to supplement their income, there's always knocking an old lady over the head at an ATM for her S.S. check. >8(
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#65 Sep 11, 2013
Maple Resident wrote:
So those people in your rental unit, I wonder where they'll go when they get booted out? Probably sponge in on some of their family members. So, why couldn't they have made those arrangements sooner so they wouldn't be missing all these monthly payments? People do strange things to try to squeeze as much out of others as they can. We sure have some stupid laws that cater to the 'users'. But, Obama will fix that by giving everyone jobs in the military when he single handedly starts WWIII! lol
My thinking is that their lowlife family and friends are giving them hillbilly legal advice. They probably told them it will take many months before the court will actually kick them out. They would never dream of kicking out a family with children. LOL!

It did used to be that way years ago, but landlords got fed up and addressed their politicians about the problem. Now it takes less than two weeks after the court orders them out. They may try to appeal, but the woman is dead lazy. She won't lift a finger to do anything. Even if they try to appeal, who would accept the appeal if they didn't take it serious enough to attend court?

I can't wait to see what they are going to do when the bailiff opens the apartment door and orders them out of the apartment. They'll probably ship themselves. In fact, I bet the guy won't even take the day off of work to address the problem. They only have one car and he uses that to get to work.

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