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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201480 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Mona Lott

Brooklyn, NY

#154681 Aug 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
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I made nothing up.
If you read their own discriptions, that is "who they are". Or, asked on your terms, okay, why do they dress up masculine?
Anything you define in relational terms must also be understood in evolutionary terms and be congruent.
Your fear is causing you to miss the simple reality that genes/brain/body 'wiring' gets mixed up all the time. Even our hair color is a mix. Denying that that mix is sometimes faulty is just plain stupid.
You are so full of shit with your "relation terms, evolutionary terms, congruent" mess. This is America. People may dress however they wish. What's it to you if women wear pants (OMFG!) Or do you think all women who wear pants do so to attract other women?

My fear?
hahahahahaha
ahahahahahah
ahahahahahah

The fear is all yours, honey. You cannot handle the uncertainty so you react with a typical control-freak attitude: Everyone must dress according to your standards so you don't freak out. Sorry, honey... life doesn't work that way... unless you think all women should be wearing black burkahs. Then you are in the wrong country.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154682 Aug 14, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, pal, I'm not the one going to school boards and adoption agencies telling them kid's sexual orientation won't be affected by transvestite teachers or men who go prancing down Main Street in penis suits and erect penis hats.
YOU'RE doing it and that means you're making a claim you -- according the the APA -- have no science to support.
If the APA doesn't know -- an idiot like you surely doesn't know.
What part of that don't you understand?
Do you know the difference between TRANSGENDER and Transvestite? Somehow, I don't think you do.......I have NEVER seen a Transvestite teacher EVER. I have known Transgender teachers, but only at the College level of education.....NEVER at the elementary level........do you have actual evidence to back up your claim? or is this just crap being spewed outta your mouth?

Actually, I have more knowledge or understanding of why a person is Gay or Lesbian than you do......I also have done some research on it and have posted the articles about it......just because you opt to believe MassResistance, doesn't mean that the rest of us are as ignorant as you are on this issue!!!!
Reality

Madison, WI

#154683 Aug 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
There is a difference between a answer and a dodge and a guess. I'm sure you'd be concerned if you flew on a plane where the pilot held your view.
You are equating one relationship with another. Other realtionships are denied marriage because they are not the same. I am simply pointing out numerous ways gay unions are not the same, including the most basic, sexuality. In fact you are equating a broken 'object' with a natural one.
Let me guess, now gay's and lesbians are not fit to be pilots.......

What does sex or sexuality have to do with a contract?

How exactaly are gay's and lesbians broken?

Prof Marvel

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Atlanta, GA

#154684 Aug 14, 2012
Reality wrote:
<quoted text>Should we judge all heterosexuals based on the actions of a few?
Look dippy why do heterosexual teachers have sex with their students? It happens all the time. Based on that, heterosexuals should no be allowed to adopt children because they will have sex with them. Prancing all around the class rooms enticing young men to have sex with older women. Men teachers taking advantage of young ladies, stealing their childhood.
Assuming all you say is true, that's no defense for giving homosexuals a pass. You people seem to think all you have to do is produce an instance of a heterosexual abuse, molestation, abandonment, broken harm, etc, and it gives you a pass.

It doesn't.

Personally, I don't believe homosexuals are any more prone to pedophilia than heterosexuals. But pedophilia is not the question. The first question is whether men who dress in penis suits and erect penis hats should have access to children.

The second question is whether men who engage in a morbidly unhealthy sexual practice should have access to children.

If we don't allow gay men to donate blood, how can we in good conscience allow them to adopt?

Prof Marvel

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Atlanta, GA

#154685 Aug 14, 2012
RnL2008 wrote:
<quoted text>
Do you know the difference between TRANSGENDER and Transvestite? Somehow, I don't think you do.......I have NEVER seen a Transvestite teacher EVER. I have known Transgender teachers, but only at the College level of education.....NEVER at the elementary level........do you have actual evidence to back up your claim? or is this just crap being spewed outta your mouth?
Actually, I have more knowledge or understanding of why a person is Gay or Lesbian than you do......I also have done some research on it and have posted the articles about it......just because you opt to believe MassResistance, doesn't mean that the rest of us are as ignorant as you are on this issue!!!!
Are you telling us you think transvestites should be prohibited from becoming school teachers? If you are, tell us why.

As to you having more knowledge about gay or lesbian than I do, how can you say that if you've never read Shilts or Rotello?

Or Mass Resistance ...?

And I'd be interested in hearing what facts you believe Mass Resistance gets wrong.

You people are quick to call Mass Resistance and every other organization that doesn't accept the LGBT agenda a hate group, but when asked to explain why, you never follow-up.
Reality

Madison, WI

#154686 Aug 14, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Assuming all you say is true, that's no defense for giving homosexuals a pass. You people seem to think all you have to do is produce an instance of a heterosexual abuse, molestation, abandonment, broken harm, etc, and it gives you a pass.
It doesn't.
Personally, I don't believe homosexuals are any more prone to pedophilia than heterosexuals. But pedophilia is not the question. The first question is whether men who dress in penis suits and erect penis hats should have access to children.
The second question is whether men who engage in a morbidly unhealthy sexual practice should have access to children.
If we don't allow gay men to donate blood, how can we in good conscience allow them to adopt?
I see you give heterosexual teachers who have sex with underage children a pass.

I was not aware that all homosexuals wore penis hats. I was not aware of a dress code for adopting a child.

Heterosexuals who engage in anal sex should not be allowed to adopt children.

You have sex with both sexes, you should not be allowed to donate blood.

Lastly, WTF does blood donation have to do with adoption?
TakenBack

La Puente, CA

#154688 Aug 14, 2012
Keep the flappy going, haven't bothered to read any of your nonsense.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154689 Aug 14, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you telling us you think transvestites should be prohibited from becoming school teachers? If you are, tell us why.
As to you having more knowledge about gay or lesbian than I do, how can you say that if you've never read Shilts or Rotello?
Or Mass Resistance ...?
And I'd be interested in hearing what facts you believe Mass Resistance gets wrong.
You people are quick to call Mass Resistance and every other organization that doesn't accept the LGBT agenda a hate group, but when asked to explain why, you never follow-up.
First off......I don't need to read the ANTI-GAY CRAP from Shilts or Rotello or Mass Resistance to have more knowledge than you about one's sexual orientation.....and if you believe those folks, it's no wonder your such the idiot you are!!!!

Secondly.......until you can explain the difference between "TRANSGENDER" and "TRANSVESTITE"...... .nothing I say will matter because you already are clueless on this issue as well.

Thirdly........MassResistance is extremely ANTI-GAY, they violate the privacy laws by stalking Gay families, taking pictures of their children and posting OUTRAGEOUS ALLEGATIONS about abuse that NEVER takes place......and that's just for starters!!!!
marilyn

Corona, CA

#154690 Aug 14, 2012
Jess wrote:
Woohoo!!
That was posted by Jess on August 10th, 2010.
Jess passed from this world on August 8th, 2012.

Rest in Peace.

Prof Marvel

“The Great and Wonderful Marvel”

Since: Aug 09

Atlanta, GA

#154691 Aug 14, 2012
If you're new to this forum please watch this first:

&fe ature=related
Carlton

Corona, CA

#154692 Aug 14, 2012
marilyn wrote:
<quoted text>
That was posted by Jess on August 10th, 2010.
Jess passed from this world on August 8th, 2012.
Rest in Peace.
I believe Jess posted the initial message on this thread on Aug 4th.

Farewell, Jess. RIP

~ Carlton Bixx
Bill

Simi Valley, CA

#154693 Aug 14, 2012
WHY VOTE wrote:
Ok, I don't really care if same sex people get married or are together in any capacity. I am for equal rights BUT.......... I am very annoyed that peoples votes don't mean anything anymore. What happened to a majority vote rules? What happened to the peoples voice?
My stance on this has nothing to do with same sex couples. This is just the latest thing a court has overturned or blocked that THE PEOPLE voted for. Look at AZ., look back at prop. 187 which would have saved is billions in illegal immigrant funding. The people of the USA are trying to make changes to better our country and the few judges are effectively disenfranchising us.
Again this is not directed at same sex couples it is major frustration over the majority loosing there voice.
WHY VOTE????
Why? Because the majority can't over-ride the Constitution of the United States. Because the majority often can be bigoted. The majority could 'outlaw' certain religions, or impose their will just because they are a majority. A cetain policy maybe being something that appeals to the majority, but doesn't make it Constitutional.

“WAY TO GO”

Since: Mar 11

IRELAND

#154694 Aug 14, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
If you're new to this forum please watch this first:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =v3S24ofEQj4XX&feature=rel ated
Maybe this is a video you should watch.......it's about what your worth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch...
BigBang

La Puente, CA

#154695 Aug 14, 2012
Why do those fools with ears wrapped around their eyes and ears keep posting worthless comments that are racists in nature and theatening in tone?
Crazy Ryan

La Puente, CA

#154697 Aug 14, 2012
This is what a Paul Ryan whould support:

He'd eliminate Pell grants for more than 1 million low-income students.

His budget plan cuts the Pell Grant program by $200 billion, which could mean a loss of educational funding for 1 million low-income students.
US Ultimatum

Pittsfield, MA

#154699 Aug 14, 2012
Crazy Ryan wrote:
This is what a Paul Ryan whould support:
He'd eliminate Pell grants for more than 1 million low-income students.
His budget plan cuts the Pell Grant program by $200 billion, which could mean a loss of educational funding for 1 million low-income students.
Could it be because we probably are broke and too busy giving away money to other nations and getting NOTHING in return.
Frank Rizzo

Hayward, CA

#154700 Aug 14, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
<quoted text>
You are so full of shit with your "relation terms, evolutionary terms, congruent" mess. This is America. People may dress however they wish. What's it to you if women wear pants (OMFG!) Or do you think all women who wear pants do so to attract other women?
My fear?
hahahahahaha
ahahahahahah
ahahahahahah
The fear is all yours, honey. You cannot handle the uncertainty so you react with a typical control-freak attitude: Everyone must dress according to your standards so you don't freak out. Sorry, honey... life doesn't work that way... unless you think all women should be wearing black burkahs. Then you are in the wrong country.
I support marriage equality so don't get all bent out of shape and faint on us or anything like that but seriously, with all due respect, why DO lesbians dress like men? And why does asking that question make you angry?

“What Goes Around, Comes Around”

Since: Mar 07

Kansas City, MO.

#154701 Aug 14, 2012
US Ultimatum wrote:
<quoted text>
Could it be because we probably are broke and too busy giving away money to other nations and getting NOTHING in return.
No, it's the Republican way....cut all the programs they can.
Dude

New Castle, DE

#154703 Aug 14, 2012
KiMare wrote:
You posted no academic findings.
You just had to ask, man.

Harry (1982, 51-52)
Saghir and Robins (1973, 18)
Connell, Robert William (1987)
Bem,S.L.(1981)
Barash and Lipton(2002)
Crook, Robert (2011)
Deustch, F. M.(2007)
Breedlove (1997)
KiMare wrote:
I am at work, so I can't find a butch post I just referenced yesterday. You can look up 'butchblogs'.
Typed it into my search engine, and didn't see one that had a person that agreed with your ideas.
KiMare wrote:
Of course they are "being true to themselves", but why does a lesbian have that 'truth' in them according to evolution?
Everyone is a product of evolution, and everyone is a player in evolution. Also, everyone's true self is a part of them, regardless of sexual orientation. Lesbians are just more free to express it.
KiMare wrote:
My passive is drawing you to reality, my aggression is bitchslapping your denial.
Smile.
Calm down, man. Your cattiness is not only unwarranted, but it is unattractive, regardless of sexual orientation.
Bruno

Redondo Beach, CA

#154704 Aug 14, 2012
Mona Lott wrote:
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Can't sleep, eh?
I sleep just fine, thanks for asking you homo

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