Public meeting to discuss Hwy. 119 im...

Public meeting to discuss Hwy. 119 improvements

There are 25 comments on the Middlesboro Daily News story from Nov 22, 2009, titled Public meeting to discuss Hwy. 119 improvements. In it, Middlesboro Daily News reports that:

Countless wrecks, injuries, and fatalities have occurred on Highway 119 from Bell County to Harlan, KY over the years and many have voiced concerns of the road's safety.

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#1 Nov 30, 2009
This road should have been 4 laned back in the early 90s when it was first discussed. Think of the lives that could have been saved in that time.
vertical

Knoxville, TN

#2 Nov 30, 2009
Step one - tear down the Bridge To Nowhere so four lanes can be built without causing endless slides. Step two - fire everyone who thought the Bridge To Nowhere was a good idea.
Good Roads Make Sense

Lexington, KY

#3 Nov 30, 2009
Actually, the bridge to nowhere was built with the idea that the Varilla curve would be eliminated one day by a big cut-thru. No need to tear it down--its in the plans.

And that cut is what should have been done instead of the last project on Varilla curve which was just window dressing.

And the original post is right. 119 is a dangerous road. 4 lanes would be a great benefit to Harlan County and Bell both.

I say push for it.
Good Roads Make Sense

Lexington, KY

#4 Nov 30, 2009
But in case you haven't noticed, the state of Kentucky is too broke to pay attention. Even so, it makes sense to put this project as a priority.
Euclid

Springfield, TN

#5 Nov 30, 2009
Good Roads Make Sense wrote:
Actually, the bridge to nowhere was built with the idea that the Varilla curve would be eliminated one day by a big cut-thru. No need to tear it down--its in the plans.
And that cut is what should have been done instead of the last project on Varilla curve which was just window dressing.
And the original post is right. 119 is a dangerous road. 4 lanes would be a great benefit to Harlan County and Bell both.
I say push for it.
That will be some cut. Where do you suppose they'll dump Laurel Hill - out at Big Blue?
Good Roads Make Sense

Clarksville, TN

#6 Nov 30, 2009
It will be a huge cut, but how else can you eliminate Varilla curve? Its one of the worst features of 119.
Reroute

United States

#7 Nov 30, 2009
Without that bridge, the job would have been a lot simpler. You'd have to extend the cut well beyond the bridge now to get a safe margin. And the benching involved to stabilize that mountain is going to affect people on Laurel Hill. If it weren't for that bridge, the grade could have been raised substantially which in turn would have reduced the cut necessary. Anyway you look at it, the costs to do what is needed have gone up dramatically as a result of that bad decision. And the cost is what will postpone anything being done for years to come.

Was the planning done by the same party that planned a three-lane bridge down at 25-E? Anything on file in Manchester related to these grand schemes?
Good Roads Make Sense

Clarksville, TN

#8 Nov 30, 2009
I have never understood why the bridge was put in that location. Ask Vaughn & Melton, they designed it. They said it was to gain elevation, but I still question it. I still think it would have made more sense to find a route on this side of Varilla curve.
obvious

AOL

#9 Nov 30, 2009
Look at a map. The much better choice would be cut across Laurel Hill and bypass all of the varilla area completely. This would also cut off approx. 3 miles of road to Harlan. Saving millions of gallons of fuel.
My Opinion

United States

#10 Dec 1, 2009
Actually most of the wrecks happen on a straight, I don't think it is the road I think it is the people driving on 119. Everyone has to be in front, how often do you see cops on 119? I think they should put cameras along the road, you would be suprised how careful people would be if they thought they were being watched. Four lanes will just cause people to go faster.
Good Roads Make Sense

Lexington, KY

#11 Dec 1, 2009
Well obviously if people were more careful there would be fewer accidents. This is true on any road.

But the fact is that if you have two way traffic, you will have more accidents, period. And when there is a lot of traffic on a two way road its even worse. 4 lanes would not make for more accidents. Check the stats.
sure

South Fulton, TN

#12 Jan 2, 2010
This is the most dangerous rd. in the usa. Why they haven't fixed it instead of the big bridge at varilla curve goes beyond me, I have lost many friends and we lost a deputy sheriff. It would seem that they could find the money to fix this rd. They put the money everywhere else. They cut taxes from the working people that travel this road daily, do they pay their funeral bills or keep their families up when these innocent peole are killed. No I don't think so. Also where is the law when so many people are flying up and down and passing everyone in sight. Fix this rd. or be held liable for negligance.

mehere

Baxter, KY

#13 Jan 2, 2010
They should finish the road going from Ky to Pennington Gap Va. IT was on the plan to be finished. NOONE TO PUSH it after the Belcher reign
Another Thing

Winchester, KY

#14 Jan 2, 2010
sure wrote:
This is the most dangerous rd. in the usa. Why they haven't fixed it instead of the big bridge at varilla curve goes beyond me, I have lost many friends and we lost a deputy sheriff. It would seem that they could find the money to fix this rd. They put the money everywhere else. They cut taxes from the working people that travel this road daily, do they pay their funeral bills or keep their families up when these innocent peole are killed. No I don't think so. Also where is the law when so many people are flying up and down and passing everyone in sight. Fix this rd. or be held liable for negligance.
I agree with you but I believe the reason there are accidents on this road is because of the road itself.The road is curvy and dangerous. The police travel this road often and they do a good job.If the curve were eliminated some of those people going to work or school ,hospital and even the policemen could get to the places they need to be much faster.Has anyone heard that they may make a road through a different way to get the kids to Page school more safe and faster. Is this true? Whoever gets them to do this should be kept in office for all eternity I dont care who it is.They deserve the job this is something that should have been done before the children were even bused to Page and Bell High to begin with.
Another Thing

Winchester, KY

#15 Jan 2, 2010
obvious wrote:
Look at a map. The much better choice would be cut across Laurel Hill and bypass all of the varilla area completely. This would also cut off approx. 3 miles of road to Harlan. Saving millions of gallons of fuel.
Absolutely that is a brilliant idea
YouThink So

Winchester, KY

#16 Jan 2, 2010
My Opinion wrote:
Actually most of the wrecks happen on a straight, I don't think it is the road I think it is the people driving on 119. Everyone has to be in front, how often do you see cops on 119? I think they should put cameras along the road, you would be suprised how careful people would be if they thought they were being watched. Four lanes will just cause people to go faster.
It would give room for error and possibly keep collisions down. If there were shortcut and people could get somewhere easier then people would probably slow down. Its a shame how it takes all day to get anywhere because the roads around here weren't laid out properly with the idea that people need to get to their work places.Our roads were good in the 70's but its time to get this place in order.There needs to be a quicker way to get up Frakes too.
i have no life

Harlan, KY

#17 Jan 2, 2010
obvious wrote:
Look at a map. The much better choice would be cut across Laurel Hill and bypass all of the varilla area completely. This would also cut off approx. 3 miles of road to Harlan. Saving millions of gallons of fuel.

i completly agree with "obvious" on this issue this would cut out the most dangerious part of 119 altogether and make a nicer safer route in and out of harlan and save people money at the same time. it is mind boggling how the citizens can so easily come up with these solutions and the Politicians in power can't seem to figure out the diffrence in their butts and a hole in the ground.
run for office "obvious" i'd vote for you.
anyone

Madisonville, KY

#19 Jan 3, 2010
who gets on here and posts junk about young kids is completly pitiful
Where

Lebanon, KY

#20 Mar 29, 2013
Where are the improvements that the people demand ?
get

Hyden, KY

#21 Mar 29, 2013
Where wrote:
Where are the improvements that the people demand ?
rid the repub's the dem's wont roads and bridges inproved,look at the jobs plan that's your sign. lo.....

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