making manchester larger
Stan

Somerset, KY

#41 Feb 2, 2013
Interesting and relevant post. Change disrupts the status quo and the established interests who benefit from exclusion and a closed minded system.

We can do better, change isn't easy, but working together we can make a difference. The old guard likes the things the way they are those who game the system like the things the way they exist, but working people, families, and others have hope that things can and will be better for their kids.

I am no Pollyanna, but a realist and know that real leadership that serves the community will bring about progress, steady and sustainable growth and development.

What I refuse to do I throw my hands up in the air and give up, go along to get along, nor seek personal gain at the expense of others. I was born, live, and work here and I am proud of my people and my community.
my opinon wrote:
You could have jesus christ leading this county or city and unless the people want change it will never happen. I get tickled at how it always stan who keeps saying we need leaders, look at the leaders the people elected to lead this countryand what a shape it is becoming, an you think we got leaders around here that would do something benefical to this place. Look i sure like to see this place change but facts are people around here could carelss about anything other then keping what they got, not loosing there government benefits and excepting things the way they are. i have talked to people a lot older then i am and they can tell you how things was back in there time and they not no different then today.
I am sorry but when younger kids are raised up to how things operate around here they like there parents except it as how its going to be and nothing you say or do changes that fact. Then on the other hand you have got a certain group that at the first sign of something changing they are the first to start trying to take either advantage of it or belittling it with jealously, envy or fear. Let me ask you all something, seeing i am no genius and am a realist our lack of easy acess either from rail, higway, water or air, being suround by mostly other poor counties with same problem is a big disadvantage. Just look at london, corbin and even hazard they lot better shape then us and they got all the above things state we lack. You can blame it on whatever you like but it comes down to the fact people lack any drive to get change, access to our county is just from a couple higways that are not equipped to handle large traffic, so untill people change and our acess to transportation improves we will remain a small suffering community. This guy talking about a large lake, seems like a few years ago they was anattempt to have one but people fought it so like th airport that onced was going to build here it was killed by greedy people.
you got it right

London, KY

#42 Feb 2, 2013
I only posted that once and it showed up three times. What the ?????
you got it right

London, KY

#43 Feb 2, 2013
Alright, who's the jokester repeating my post?
help

London, KY

#44 Feb 2, 2013
Can someone tell me if you have to hook onto the city sewer system if you are put in the city limits, and what other stuff changes?
Jescoe White

Somerset, KY

#45 Feb 2, 2013
Most of the area they are expanding to it would be impossible to use their sewage system unless they spent millions to add in sewage lines throughout the rest of the "new city".

So more than likely, NO, you wouldn't have to.
Mr Smith

Crossett, AR

#46 Feb 2, 2013
help wrote:
Can someone tell me if you have to hook onto the city sewer system if you are put in the city limits, and what other stuff changes?
The area that George wants to expand into the City limits 80% does not have any chance of hooking on the city sewer unless millions of dollars appear out of thin air to run a sewer line. I know the worn out saying is Senator Stivers will find the money somewhere just like asking him to ask for tax money to pay for Y Hollow and building the bridge to that strip pit. What they don't tell you is everyone is going through hard times, Federal, State, County etc... and taxpayers is getting tired of being taxed every time they turn around to fund foolish not needed projects. I would like for the city to publish in the enterprise how much money the beer and liquor tax has made them and what they are doing with the money right down to the last dime.But all you hear from city hall is the cry "we are broke" what are they doing with the beer and liquor tax money, water and sewer money, city tax money, etc...??????? Publish it in the paper Mayor right down to the last dime sir !
wondering

Manchester, KY

#47 Feb 2, 2013
The way they talk of expanding i thought already had sewer and water run out that way especially out by the prison.
what city

Cadiz, KY

#48 Feb 2, 2013
AGAIN.....what city??? Why would people want ripped off by paying taxes for nothing???? You have a small community....no one needs to be paying taxes for living in a community. Buy guns, protect yourselves, keep your money!!!
You Know

Flat Lick, KY

#49 Feb 2, 2013
Mr Smith wrote:
<quoted text> The area that George wants to expand into the City limits 80% does not have any chance of hooking on the city sewer unless millions of dollars appear out of thin air to run a sewer line. I know the worn out saying is Senator Stivers will find the money somewhere just like asking him to ask for tax money to pay for Y Hollow and building the bridge to that strip pit. What they don't tell you is everyone is going through hard times, Federal, State, County etc... and taxpayers is getting tired of being taxed every time they turn around to fund foolish not needed projects. I would like for the city to publish in the enterprise how much money the beer and liquor tax has made them and what they are doing with the money right down to the last dime.But all you hear from city hall is the cry "we are broke" what are they doing with the beer and liquor tax money, water and sewer money, city tax money, etc...??????? Publish it in the paper Mayor right down to the last dime sir !
Senator Stivers has just had $1.8 million appropriated for a turning lane and road improvements in front of Hacker Elementary. With the senator's help the city would have no problem funding the Y Hollow purchase. It could be an industrial park development area or even housing. Or, extra funding could go into some other area of the city planning budget leaving room to finish payment on the property.

The ARC provides all sorts of housing, road, water and sewerage projects and funds those developments based on recommendations from the Governor and key leaders in the state House and Senate, again Senator Stivers.
Oh Yeah Right

Flat Lick, KY

#50 Feb 2, 2013
what city wrote:
AGAIN.....what city??? Why would people want ripped off by paying taxes for nothing???? You have a small community....no one needs to be paying taxes for living in a community. Buy guns, protect yourselves, keep your money!!!
Let's let London and Corbin have everything. We have Sen. Stivers behind us now and our neighbors are beginning to worry.
help

London, KY

#51 Feb 2, 2013
Jescoe White wrote:
Most of the area they are expanding to it would be impossible to use their sewage system unless they spent millions to add in sewage lines throughout the rest of the "new city".
So more than likely, NO, you wouldn't have to.
But some of the areas do have it. The prison is hooked onto it so it has to go out that way somewhere. Would the houses in the area where it is already at have to hook on? The tap fee for anyone hooking on is $500.
Fox Hollow

Crossett, AR

#52 Feb 2, 2013
I think the sewer line stops at the prison. I know at fox trails everyone has a septic system in their yard.
Londonian

Mount Vernon, KY

#53 Feb 2, 2013
Cant sleep at night worried about youins taking over.
City occupant

Manchester, KY

#54 Feb 2, 2013
I think the city should take all of the city benefits from homes not in the city. Do the greenbrier people think their 50 a year keeps the fire dept running. Take it away and let their insurance change. Like the old saying don't want it , don't need it, but take it away I will raise hell
Stan

Somerset, KY

#55 Feb 2, 2013
Excellent point. We can make things happen with leadership and communinty involvement and support.

There are funding sources that can be utilized to create sustainable economic development opportunities.
You Know wrote:
<quoted text>
Senator Stivers has just had $1.8 million appropriated for a turning lane and road improvements in front of Hacker Elementary. With the senator's help the city would have no problem funding the Y Hollow purchase. It could be an industrial park development area or even housing. Or, extra funding could go into some other area of the city planning budget leaving room to finish payment on the property.
The ARC provides all sorts of housing, road, water and sewerage projects and funds those developments based on recommendations from the Governor and key leaders in the state House and Senate, again Senator Stivers.
what benefits

London, KY

#56 Feb 2, 2013
City occupant wrote:
I think the city should take all of the city benefits from homes not in the city. Do the greenbrier people think their 50 a year keeps the fire dept running. Take it away and let their insurance change. Like the old saying don't want it , don't need it, but take it away I will raise hell
The only benefit people outside the city get is fire. You say "benefits". Name some other ones. No one wants higher taxes, so what else does this annexation have to offer but that. There will be no other "benefit" as you say.
american worker

Somerset, KY

#57 Feb 2, 2013
After reading these post on this subject i ask myself do these people posting these things think before they act. These ones relying on senator stivers to get funding for every thing this county gets, ask yourself one thing why is this country broke and taxing its people to death. You people ever heared of cities taking out bonds on projects? If every little city in every state is going to be like manchester beg its senators or representives for moneys for every project they want, where is this money going to come from? Look if this area wants to grow, you got to have jobs, taxes from thoses working and the companies they work for is what makes a area grow. Go check out some of these small towns that are growing and you see first they get jobs, and how they do it is show companies they got a work force, stop greedy people from running companies of with there price gouging for land to locate on and get tax breaks for start up companies to come to there area. Its not big lakes, campgrounds, hike trails or what ever else comes to mind of you people, its good old fashion saling your areas with good working people, a good working climate to locate in and fair treatment. Any new company looks for excited people, willingness for people to not try swindle them with handicaped demands to start with, like big wages, big benefits those come with time and as the company makes profits. Can this area grow, sure it can , not by getting funding from a seantor but with a better transportation acess, a better attitude by so many of its citizen to work, get educated and get rid of the old problem of scratch my back i scratch yours so many hang on to. I hope none of you get upset with my post, i am a retired worker that worries people have come so dependant on government they think the answer to all there problems is with money from government. I love reading about the begining of this country, how in many cases it was just one man with one idea without any help from government that started so many of todays large businesses, where has that eagerness to build soething great gone to by our people, why have we become so lazy, uncaring and in many cases stupid to our greatness.
Highway 638

Somerset, KY

#58 Feb 2, 2013
City occupant wrote:
I think the city should take all of the city benefits from homes not in the city. Do the greenbrier people think their 50 a year keeps the fire dept running. Take it away and let their insurance change. Like the old saying don't want it , don't need it, but take it away I will raise hell
I would be glad to pay more for their fire service, IF the money would actually go to the fire department and not just to fill pockets of certain families.
Beg Borrow Steal

Flat Lick, KY

#59 Feb 2, 2013
american worker wrote:
If every little city in every state is going to be like manchester beg its senators or representives for moneys for every project they want, where is this money going to come from?
Hopefully from the 53% who pay taxes. We can start in London and Corbin.

Hey that's an idea, maybe we can borrow a billion or two from the Chinese, but I'd take it any way we can get it.
Say What

Crossett, AR

#61 Feb 2, 2013
Beg Borrow Steal wrote:
<quoted text>
Hopefully from the 53% who pay taxes. We can start in London and Corbin.
Hey that's an idea, maybe we can borrow a billion or two from the Chinese, but I'd take it any way we can get it.
53% people in Clay County work and pay taxes? Are you kidding me ! At least 70% are on the draw and pay nothing at all in taxes except when they shop or eat out. It's the 30% of the poor working folks that carry the heavy load of paying the taxes and keeping enough health insurance on theirself and family to keep them out of the poor house if they get sick enough to go to the hospital. Find a way to tax those SSI and disability (bad back) checks and the city and county will never want for nothing.

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