The Mouth of Teges
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Coal Miner

London, KY

#1 Feb 27, 2009
I wonder how the Mouth gets her power down on Teges Creek. Does she have a windmill? Does she blow into it when the wind isn't blowing? Does she have a hydro dam in the creek? Is she using the sun (which means she is in the dark most of the time)?
No, I figure she turns on the light switch like the other 99.99% of us in Clay County. If so, like us, she is getting her power from coal.

I wonder where she shops. If in Manchester, she has a really good chance of going into a store that is sitting on what was once a surface coal mine. Thank God the "walls" weren't put back. Wal-Mart would have a really hard time building on a slope. If she is going to London to shop, she is going into a store that God provided the flat land for.

Where does she work? I don't think it is the Manchester FCI. No, she couldn't dare work there; it is on an un-reclaimed surface mine.
Are Wal-Mart and FCI the un-reclaimed coal mine sites she is spouting about? If so, Thank Hardly Able for them, because while God was there during the mining, he didn't originally make it flat.

Our mountains, is something the Mouth and others like to talk about. I work for one of those out of state corporations that own a lot of those mountains. So when I say "Our Mountains" I am at least somewhat legally correct. We have a deed that says we own them. As the legal owner we don't want to see them or anything destroyed. That would accomplish nothing more than seeing an asset become worthless.

Until the Mouth and her contemporaries decide to put "their" money where their mouths are and buy all the mountains; I think they should just shut the hell up, turn the lights and heat off, and freeze to death in the dark.
wow

Somerset, KY

#2 Feb 27, 2009
what's going on here?
Black Jack

London, KY

#3 Feb 27, 2009
Look's like Ann has been up to her usual crap in the other news (Manchester Enterprise).
Mad

Liberty, KY

#4 Feb 27, 2009
Black Jack wrote:
Look's like Ann has been up to her usual crap in the other news (Manchester Enterprise).
I dont know why the manchester paper let her back in the paper?they took her column out for a long time when she said some foolish shit before.People should call the paper and tell them that they are not going to buy their paper as long as she has a column in it.
Coal Miner

London, KY

#5 Feb 27, 2009
I donít mind the foolishness as much as the hypocrisy. I have a really hard time dealing with people who have either made their living or donít want to make a living; and feel they know what is best for everyone else who is trying to produce something.
Until the Mouth and others like her in the United States wake up and realize all the education in the world canít take you anywhere without the working man, we will continue on the proverbial trail without a paddle.
Mouth of Teges

AOL

#6 Feb 28, 2009
Let's stick to the point. The point is not whether I work (I do) or whether the Manchester Enterprise ever took my column out (they didn't) or whether I use electricity (I do, but I try not to waste it).
Of course we need coal, and of course many of the people who mine it are good, hard-working people, and you have to admire them for doing this dangerous and important work. You'll get no argument from me about that. The point is this: can't we find some safe and economically feasible way to mine the coal without wiping out the forest, the topsoil, and the mountain on top of it, and without endangering the water sources and people below it? I have visited MTR sites, and, not all of them, but most of them, are ugly, lifeless places that will never be put to any good use. Surely we can do better than to blow up the mountains entirely just to get to the coal seam. And though big corporations may legally own them, many people in Appalachia love the mountains, where our families have lived for generations, and we want to see them saved for the future.
use it sister

Jeffersonville, IN

#7 Feb 28, 2009
you have electricty for a reason! we pay high enough bills for it each month! use that sucker!!!! turn on them lights! turn that heat on high, kick your front door open! burn it up son!
Coal Miner

London, KY

#8 Feb 28, 2009
Let's not candy-coat this Mouth. You don't admire anyone who "wants" to mine coal by any means. You no more support a coal miner than you support a soldier than you support an unborn babyís right to be born. You either do or you donít. There is no ďstraddle-poleĒ position here. Your lieutenant governor tries to approach this issue the same way you do. His hypocrisy is as obvious to me as yours is.
There is nothing that can be produced whose production is 100% safe. That includes coal, electricity, a newspaper, a McDonaldís burger and everything else. Accidents will happen and saying they shouldnít might sound great but is total crap.
Economics is in the eye of the beholder. You might be happy with $0.11/KW electricity or even higher if it means no coal. I want cheap electricity ($0.07 or less) if it means MTR, nuclear or whatever. It can be done reasonably safely, economically and environmentally enough for me. I doubt it could be for you.
There has never been a forest, a mountain, a stream or anything else wiped out by coal mining. No more so than McDonalds is making us all fat or Wal-Mart is making us all poor. No roads, no schools, no hospitals, and no nothing will be built without disturbance.
An MTR site in progress is much like open heart surgery in progress. It might not be pretty while going on but if done correctly, in the end both the mine site and the patient pull through with only a few scars to show for it. Again, nothing will ever be produced on this planet or anywhere else without some evidence that man has been there.
Like me, you have no idea what the future holds. If someone had said during the late 70ís that Fox Hollow would be the site of a federal prison in a few years they would have been laughed at. Who drove out Little Goose and pointed into the Liberty Hills area 30 years ago and said that would be an ideal site for a subdivision? Neither could have happened without man moving the mountain and not putting it back. The Daniel Boone Parkway was built by moving mountains. I-75 was built by moving the mountains. Lexington was built by moving the mountains only God did it that time.
Nobody loves this area more than those of us who have chosen to work here. It is not easy getting up before 5 am, driving an hour or longer, working 8-10 hours and then driving back home. We stayed here because we wanted to. You left, made your living and came back. Hooray for you; like a new-born kitten you finally saw the light. But un-like a kitten it took you many years instead of a few days. Even with our MTR, diaper trees, open sewer pipes and everything else living here is better than Lexington. We want to work here. Words, while soothing to hear, are still only words. It takes a noisy machine of some kind to actually make those words a reality.
The mountains will be here when you and I have been gone for a thousand years unless God decides to do something about it. I hope that during that time coal continues to be mined. Maybe that will give my children, their children and all our future generations an opportunity to produce something. A column in the Manchester Enterprise is fine but it produces absolutely nothing of monetary value. Unless the United States wants to become a strictly barter society someone has to produce something that actually has value. Detroit canít and never will be able to sell cars to a people that donít produce.
I despise people who think they know more about protecting the interest of my children than I do. I'm not saying they don't, but I sure as hell doubt they do. If you want to save something for the future you have my blessing and I will commend you for it; but only when you have written the check to buy it and provided the document that states it will forever be protected.
Good night and God bless the coal miners, the companies who provide those jobs and the United States of America.
Mouth Fan

London, KY

#9 Mar 1, 2009
You don't know Ms. Shelby as much as you'd know the man in the moon, COAL MINER. She's by no means bashing coal miners--she's just stating an opinion. If you're really as serious as you think you are--write a column in the Enterprise. I laugh at the people who post on Topix thinking they're really doing something. If you really want to be heard, post in the newspaper. Until then, don't think you're really doing something. Anyone can post an opinion on Topix.
Mouth Fan

London, KY

#10 Mar 1, 2009
Coal Miner wrote:
I donít mind the foolishness as much as the hypocrisy. I have a really hard time dealing with people who have either made their living or donít want to make a living; and feel they know what is best for everyone else who is trying to produce something.
Until the Mouth and others like her in the United States wake up and realize all the education in the world canít take you anywhere without the working man, we will continue on the proverbial trail without a paddle.
I admire anyone willing to get an education. In the world we live in, a college degree is soon to be a necessity. She never bashes anyone for being who they are. The sooner you quit holding the chip on your shoulder against the collegiately educated the better off you're going to be. And, we wonder why Clay Countians are scared or intimidated by the college front??
Mouth Fan

London, KY

#11 Mar 1, 2009
Mad wrote:
<quoted text>I dont know why the manchester paper let her back in the paper?they took her column out for a long time when she said some foolish shit before.People should call the paper and tell them that they are not going to buy their paper as long as she has a column in it.
Well, I expect you to make the first call. Until you man up (or woman up) and do that, shut up about it.
Miss Kitty

AOL

#12 Mar 1, 2009
Mouth Fan, I agree with you.
Coal Miner

London, KY

#13 Mar 2, 2009
Mouth Fan wrote:
You don't know Ms. Shelby as much as you'd know the man in the moon, COAL MINER. She's by no means bashing coal miners--she's just stating an opinion. If you're really as serious as you think you are--write a column in the Enterprise. I laugh at the people who post on Topix thinking they're really doing something. If you really want to be heard, post in the newspaper. Until then, don't think you're really doing something. Anyone can post an opinion on Topix.
I mine coal for a living. I don't write columns in the Enterprise. You pole straddlers would have us belief you can bash something without bashing someone. I say BS to you. An opinion is like an a-hole; we all have one. In the case of the Mouth and you like minded libbie lovers, you unfortunately have two- the one below where the waste should come from and the one filled with tongue and teeth where most of your waste actually comes from.
Coal Miner

London, KY

#14 Mar 2, 2009
Mouth Fan wrote:
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I admire anyone willing to get an education. In the world we live in, a college degree is soon to be a necessity. She never bashes anyone for being who they are. The sooner you quit holding the chip on your shoulder against the collegiately educated the better off you're going to be. And, we wonder why Clay Countians are scared or intimidated by the college front??
As for the college education; got it. Wouldn't take anything for it. Thank God it taught me how to make a living doing something actually productive. Nonetheless, in your case and that of the Mouth, a college education has produced nothing, but what my grandfather referred to as a pair of educated fools.
Big mouth 2

Huntsville, TX

#15 May 16, 2012
I have a love/hate relationship with coal...1. I love God for making it. For keeping me warm. For keeping me cool. For keeping my food cold and the like. I hate that the job took my daddy's life when I was a small child. I hate that he didn't watch me grow up and I couldn't watch him grow old. I hate that mountain across from my house looks like hell from the blasting. I hate the huge boulders from a strip mine that landed in my friends house and almost killed him.

So I guess there are many people who aren't sure exactly how they feel about coal. And you know what??? We don't have to agree.
Good job

Mayfield, KY

#16 May 16, 2012
Big mouth 2 wrote:
I have a love/hate relationship with coal...1. I love God for making it. For keeping me warm. For keeping me cool. For keeping my food cold and the like. I hate that the job took my daddy's life when I was a small child. I hate that he didn't watch me grow up and I couldn't watch him grow old. I hate that mountain across from my house looks like hell from the blasting. I hate the huge boulders from a strip mine that landed in my friends house and almost killed him.
So I guess there are many people who aren't sure exactly how they feel about coal. And you know what??? We don't have to agree.
Well said,but i think coalminer is one of them people who dont like other peoples opinion if it effects his billfold.
the one

Somerset, KY

#17 May 16, 2012
Many enviro-terrorists like to use the myth that the Native Americans were pure and never harmed the environment, and multiple times over that has been proven to be a pile of horse manure. Don't believe me, go to the Pennsylvania History Museum in Harrisburg. They have an entire exhibit on the Susquehannock tribe that mainly lived in central PA. Whenever that particular tribe arrived in an area, for example, they would literally wipeout all life forms in that region (animals, vegetation, etc.), mainly just wasting the natural resources available. Once the process was complete, they would simply move on to another part of Pennsylvania and repeat the process. There were other instances of tribes that did more or less the same thing, and they would make our modern day biggest polluters look like total amateurs in comparison.
DUH

London, KY

#18 May 17, 2012
the one wrote:
Many enviro-terrorists like to use the myth that the Native Americans were pure and never harmed the environment, and multiple times over that has been proven to be a pile of horse manure. Don't believe me, go to the Pennsylvania History Museum in Harrisburg. They have an entire exhibit on the Susquehannock tribe that mainly lived in central PA. Whenever that particular tribe arrived in an area, for example, they would literally wipeout all life forms in that region (animals, vegetation, etc.), mainly just wasting the natural resources available. Once the process was complete, they would simply move on to another part of Pennsylvania and repeat the process. There were other instances of tribes that did more or less the same thing, and they would make our modern day biggest polluters look like total amateurs in comparison.
Well, hell! If the Indians did it, then let's blow it all to hell! Screw the next generations! I want mine NOW!
the one

Somerset, KY

#19 May 17, 2012
DUH wrote:
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Well, hell! If the Indians did it, then let's blow it all to hell! Screw the next generations! I want mine NOW!
And let's not forget that overall the Native Americans killed far more of each other than were killed by the white men in battle. Tribal warfare was almost constant in America, with at least two tribes at war with each other at almost any given time.
DUH

London, KY

#20 May 17, 2012
the one wrote:
<quoted text>
And let's not forget that overall the Native Americans killed far more of each other than were killed by the white men in battle. Tribal warfare was almost constant in America, with at least two tribes at war with each other at almost any given time.
Well then! Let's blow up some mountains!

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