Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Hmm...now let's think about that one FIRST.
Over-bloated, often over-compensated (and often way abused) government paid "workers" at government "paid" jawbs.... versus "Volunteerism".
Okay Duquette, now that one really should Not take ANY depth or effort of thought- in considerations of comparisons.
So the feet on the ground are over-bloated and over-compensated?
You aren't about statistics, objectivity and reality much, are you?
I wonder what they put in that tea?
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So the feet on the ground are over-bloated and over-compensated?
You aren't about statistics, objectivity and reality much, are you?
I wonder what they put in that tea?
Oh no, I believe a country should have a decent military.

Only when researching.

Read the label of ingredients, it varies, according to specific flavor sometimes.

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I heard something about that too.
Not that the business(es) etc shouldn't be expected to rebuild themselves, maybe you could google how much the local insurers of such have contributed to the cause --if anything, yet????
Since we agree FEMA (or ANY agency, religious OR secular, or people or persons) are NOT bottomless pits, you think maybe the givverment should be EXcluded from it's little tax loopholes of exempted too???
Imagine that revenue that would be generated then!
I agree - the companies that create the disasters should own up to them and the insurers and re-insurers that have no qualms about taking and raising premiums should be held to their obligations.
Tax the government? So the government agencies should take a percentage of the earmarked and general funds that makes up their budgets and put it back into the earmarked and general funds that makes up their budgets when they purchase goods and services and start filing their own taxes. Uh, yeah.. that's beyond brilliant. That tidbit of tea party economics will surely save A LOT of money.

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Oh no, I believe a country should have a decent military.
Only when researching.
Read the label of ingredients, it varies, according to specific flavor sometimes.
I didn't say military. I said feet on the ground - as in the people who are REALLY doing the work. The linemen, equipment operators, truck drivers, firemen, police, etc.- not the administrators, officials, lawyers and the PR shills they hide behind.
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I agree - the companies that create the disasters should own up to them and the insurers and re-insurers that have no qualms about taking and raising premiums should be held to their obligations.
Tax the government? So the government agencies should take a percentage of the earmarked and general funds that makes up their budgets and put it back into the earmarked and general funds that makes up their budgets when they purchase goods and services and start filing their own taxes. Uh, yeah.. that's beyond brilliant. That tidbit of tea party economics will surely save A LOT of money.
Not "tax the givverment" ...just make it pay what everyone else has to.
IE: NO in particular, for example--sales-- tax exclusions.
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I didn't say military. I said feet on the ground - as in the people who are REALLY doing the work. The linemen, equipment operators, truck drivers, firemen, police, etc.- not the administrators, officials, lawyers and the PR shills they hide behind.
Ohhhhhh.

Work is work-anything else is not.

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<quoted text>Translated as in
Colossians 1:13, or
Hebrews 11:5???
What scripture is it that Christ told us to "Learn more"?
You do know that Christ taught out of the OT, as the NT
wasn't written yet, nor was the BOM!
So... All fallowers of Christ didn't know jack until
the BOM came along?
Yes, my communion with Christ has taught me a lot, and NO...
He did NOT tell me to read the BOM,!
You do know why Christ told stories to the lay people...
don't you?
Like Hebrews. If accepting Jesus Christ as your savior is all that is necessary wouldn't we be taken up?

Christ tells us that it was given to the apostles to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven but not the others. So all deep doctrine was not written. He said that as we learn more and understand it, more is given. And we were told that if we lack wisdom to ask of God. This means strive to learn more, not just rest on what we have learned.

So with that said, if the Book of Mormon may be the word of God, but you aren't sure, shouldn't you find out for yourself? The best test is to read it and ask God if it is true.

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<quoted text>If the crops are not healthy then why do we live so much longer than before we started modifying crops.... If we were to stop the cross breeding and other scientific control of crops mass starvation would kill off large portions of the US and world populations... If we grew crops as we did in 1900 our farmland in the US could not support even half of our population... But today we not only feed our people but have enough surplus to feed much of the world.....
Are we healthy as a nation though? Are all of these altered and processed foods good for us?

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<quoted text>Conspiracy nuttery, and nothing more. The genetic modification of the foods has made them safer. Wheat comes from an almost inedible grass, the earliest versions of wheat cause constipation in even optimal digestive tracts. If not for modern wheat, you'd never be able to eat bread made from it, and considering how much wheat products the average US citizen consumes, you'd be dead by now. Yeah, thanks science for giving us something we can actually eat.

But why stop there? The "natural" pesticides, and all crops need pesticides of some sort, are indiscriminate, do you know what that means? It means it's poisonous to everything that's not a plant, even to you. But the refined chemical pesticides that science gave us, and the idiots like you are so against, only hurt specific bug species, the part about them that's dangerous to humans are the preservatives which wash away very easily.

You are the one lacking in research from credible sources.
Right. And I'm sure that's not at all why we have become one of the most unhealthy nations on the planet.
And we couldn't use wheat for bread if we didn't alter it? So all those thousands of years in history when wars were fought over wheat was to use it for what exactly?

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<quoted text>"I'm not saying atheists don't or can't help. I'm talking about the organized efforts that make the impact at the disaster sites."

Who knows what your point is, because we certainly cannot go by what you write.
You apparently missed what started this conversation. Umm said that religious have done nothing for humanity. Understand now why I was pointing out just the relief effort that Christians have provided?

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You apparently missed what started this conversation. Umm said that religious have done nothing for humanity. Understand now why I was pointing out just the relief effort that Christians have provided?
Read what I said. You don't get it. PEOPLE do these things. Religion does nothing but grab money before it can get to people who need it. The people try to do the good. With or without the religion, the people will do it. Your church doesn't have some magical ability to coordinate things that people would not have if religion did not exist. And almost ANYONE can do better with 7 billion dollars as is. The primary reason that so many religions push charity is to spread religion, NOT help people. Non-religious charities have no such ulterior motives.

One simply cannot justify religion by claiming credit for good things that good people do. As a mormon, you have even less justification for doing so, because your church may be the least helpful Christian religion of all (per dollar taken in). Compare to the Methodists for a real laugh. And besides:
http://www.adamsmith.org/sites/default/files/...
Can you say "inversely proportional"? Tell me that's not indicative of a negative influence.

Religion is a leech. Temples and books don't feed people. Mosquito nets and repellents are more important than dogma. Your church essentially kills people and you want credit because they spend .7% of their tax-free income feeding people who need it. I find it abhorrent.

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Are we healthy as a nation though? Are all of these altered and processed foods good for us?
Better for us than starvation..... I think If I had to make a choice between a unhealthy big mac, fries and a coke or a spoon full of health rice my choice becomes simple....
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Since hermaphrodites have been around for as long as human history sorta pokes a hole in that concept....
Rare, and I
d still say it's physiological, just as other quirks of nature!
Mutated genes can cause all sorts of anomalies!
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<quoted text>Then call on god next disaster, not FEMA.
I see you skipped my point. God is only what you think it is, and that is based upon the writings. You put one hundred percent trust in the writings that man made. That is just to much trust in man.
On that note...
I know you've never WORKED in the sciences, and ONLY know what you've read, written by MAN!
I know God is real... and you hate that!
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Who?
(quit being lazy YaA..and poke poke lol)
William Tyndale translated the Bible so that every man could read it...
They killed him for it, as they lost control of the populace!

Poke, poke, poke!
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Right. And I'm sure that's not at all why we have become one of the most unhealthy nations on the planet.
And we couldn't use wheat for bread if we didn't alter it? So all those thousands of years in history when wars were fought over wheat was to use it for what exactly?
Yes we could use un altered wheat for bread... And we would starve... As our field would produce 1/10th the amount they produce now... For 1000's of years we had small population of people that lived to be 40 then died... Now if what you are suggesting is go back to all natural food stocks great, just fill a few mass graves with about a hundred million people here in the US and we can do it.... But you have to also let a Billion or so die around the world also....

What you wish might have worked a 1825 when the world population was about 1 Billion people.... Today it's almost 7 Billion with 300 Million in the US... Natural Food Stocks would kill a Billion people...At the very least....
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Like Hebrews. If accepting Jesus Christ as your savior is all that is necessary wouldn't we be taken up?
Christ tells us that it was given to the apostles to know the mysteries of the Kingdom of Heaven but not the others. So all deep doctrine was not written. He said that as we learn more and understand it, more is given. And we were told that if we lack wisdom to ask of God. This means strive to learn more, not just rest on what we have learned.
So with that said, if the Book of Mormon may be the word of God, but you aren't sure, shouldn't you find out for yourself? The best test is to read it and ask God if it is true.
http://www.letusreason.org/Tes tim5.htm
read this, or are you afraid to learn more?
BTW I've asked, and received wisdom from the Lord, I still ask on occasion... NEVER did He say I should read the BOM!
Praying for wisdom for you, as you said... never give up on the ones you love!:-)

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<quoted text>Rare, and I
d still say it's physiological, just as other quirks of nature!
Mutated genes can cause all sorts of anomalies!
Not all that rare ... at 0.033% to 0.05% of the US Population and far greater in some countries... And those numbers seem to be about constant throughout history ... With some local populations going much higher.... Such as Brazil and some villages in Turkey... Where rates range from .1 to .7%....

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Not "tax the givverment" ...just make it pay what everyone else has to.
IE: NO in particular, for example--sales-- tax exclusions.
It is fiscal nonsense to use budgets that came from taxes to pay sales taxes. It's "robbing from Peter to pay Paul." There is no gain in it.

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Read what I said. You don't get it. PEOPLE do these things. Religion does nothing but grab money before it can get to people who need it. The people try to do the good. With or without the religion, the people will do it. Your church doesn't have some magical ability to coordinate things that people would not have if religion did not exist. And almost ANYONE can do better with 7 billion dollars as is. The primary reason that so many religions push charity is to spread religion, NOT help people. Non-religious charities have no such ulterior motives.

One simply cannot justify religion by claiming credit for good things that good people do. As a mormon, you have even less justification for doing so, because your church may be the least helpful Christian religion of all (per dollar taken in). Compare to the Methodists for a real laugh. And besides:
http://www.adamsmith.org/sites/default/files/...
Can you say "inversely proportional"? Tell me that's not indicative of a negative influence.

Religion is a leech. Temples and books don't feed people. Mosquito nets and repellents are more important than dogma. Your church essentially kills people and you want credit because they spend .7% of their tax-free income feeding people who need it. I find it abhorrent.
Your statements are ridiculous. Kills people? Really?

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