Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: The Courier-Journal

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

Comments
99,581 - 99,600 of 130,212 Comments Last updated 11 min ago

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104180
May 20, 2013
 
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
I am not frustrated,I have found my answer.
I live very comfortably,confident in the fact that,MY GOD LIVES.
I do not hang my beliefs on studying old bones,rocks and theories of events that no one witnessed,no one can explain or duplicate,in the HOPE that someday this may all be explained...
That is blind faith....based on Science Fiction...
But,keep seeking,that which you seek,may come to you after all
Evolution is considered a fact among science. You call it fiction and have the nerve to deny you demean science?
My atheism does not hinge upon evolution. Have have many reasons for my disbelief in you deity. I write about them daily here. Have you failed to remember the reasons?
Goodheart

Somerset, KY

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104181
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>
Really? So you admit that religious people need to be institutionalized.
No-I am not that ignorant.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104182
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Hahahaha...
You said "Clueless"....
We know God is real, and you call us Clueless???
Ladies and gentlemen, I submit exhibit A.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104183
May 20, 2013
 
Goodheart wrote:
<quoted text>
Contraception is good-especially for those who do not wish to do the WORK themselves, required in feeding/raising others!
Seek counseling. It's NOT normal to disdain and "hate" others like that, especially for just viewing things differently.

Not at all.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104184
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>stuck in a lodi wrote, "For Your Information Ummm the reason I posted that paragraph AT THAT TIME was because someone had put 2 links on their post and I was reading that particular one at the time you were constantly calling names and dodging "do whut's" questions JUST LIKE Mr. O in the Racine Debate!!!! IT WAS POSTED JUST FOR YOU! you remind me of a child throwing a fit and stomping their feet saying : I don't have to answer you, but you have to answer me, you see those rules apply ONLY to you , not to me because I'm special!
I've noticed everytime you begin to post on this thread it suddenly goes silent.... WHY....because everyone here grows tired of your twaddle. Either you state your position to those you are addressing or STOP INSISTING OF OTHERS TO DO SOMETHING THAT YOU CLEARLY DON'T HAVE THE BACKBONE TO DO YOURSELF!"

It's good to see that you're still not mad, and that you're completely capable of understanding my words and writing a coherent response.

Oh, wait...
do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
I have answered thoroughly my thoughts on abortion and have not held back. Call me whatever name you want, but anyone reading this knows exactly how I feel about the topic. If you still don't know, the problem is you.
Lets hear your thoughts now. Make it public. If you can't, then stop attempting to tear down others' stances. "

do whut wrote, "<quoted text>
What evasion?"

Not held back? What evasion? I asked you ANOTHER specific set of questions, none of which you've answered, and you're all "If you still don't know, the problem is you."

NO. I still don't know because I don't tend to guess at the unknowns in another persons position, as doing that would result in constantly putting words in other people's mouths. I don't want to do that. So I ask questions. And you won't answer them:

_Ummm_ wrote, "When is abortion OK? Is it ever fine to terminate a pregnancy after an egg has been fertilized, in what cases, and why? Is an extremely high probability of a short life filled with pain and suffering a better thing than simply having a very short life with no pain and suffering? Is the body, life, and livelihood of a pregnant rape victim more or less important than a cluster of a few hundred cells sitting in her uterine wall?"

Besides simple being rude, which you like to claim not to be, it's self defeating if you are actually interested in putting the whole of your beliefs on this subject out there.

And what world do you live in where people asking questions have to throw up their opinions on a topic? Because reality doesn't work like that. Especially if one doesn't think that there is sufficient evidence to support a decision one way or the other. So, no, you don't get to force me to assert some opinion here. It's you that climbed on the soapbox, not me. And now that you're there, please clarify your position so that I can determine if it's consistent, if there's any value in it, or if there's anything I can learn from it. It shouldn't be hard, but you are making it exceedingly so.

The only conclusion I can draw thus far is that you probably haven't put sufficient thought into the topic to answer me, and you just wanted to talk loudly about something. I guess I'll see.
What did you ask that I didn't answer? I must have fallen asleep halfway through your long posts. Haha
I didn't intentionally not answer, sorry. Please ask again

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104185
May 20, 2013
 
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
What did you ask that I didn't answer? I must have fallen asleep halfway through your long posts. Haha
I didn't intentionally not answer, sorry. Please ask again
I just quoted it there again.

"When is abortion OK? Is it ever fine to terminate a pregnancy after an egg has been fertilized, in what cases, and why? Is an extremely high probability of a short life filled with pain and suffering a better thing than simply having a very short life with no pain and suffering? Is the body, life, and livelihood of a pregnant rape victim more or less important than a cluster of a few hundred cells sitting in her uterine wall?"

I've seen no complete answers for these, and I've looked at every post.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104186
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

stuck in a lodi wrote:
<quoted text> SINCE YOU ARE AN IDIOT... I will explain my use of CAPS... I do so to place Emphasis on something I am expressing. IDIOT
Where your caps are on, all I hear/read is fanatical yelling. You emphasize by yelling. Caps lock is known for yelling. You do not make societies rules.

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104187
May 20, 2013
 
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
The basis for my beliefs are important to me and you know what they are.
What continues to puzzle me is'Why are the Atheists so concerned about why and what I believe in.
You don't believe in God,you claim my beliefs are based on magic or delusions,yet you keep enquiring..
Some have stated that they do so because of Bible study rules and other excuses...That has nothing to do with the reasons for my faith...
Obviously,you/they are looking for something else,which you/they are unable to explain.
I think I understand why..
If you want an answer,then I have to understand the basis for your question?
Based on what I understand to be your need,I will answer accordingly as best I can
We tell you the answer to this post daily, yet you fail to get it.
Lets start again with my number one beef with you. You demean science due to your religious beliefs. I think this hurts our society.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104188
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I do not dictate what jobs the church wishes to participate in, it does. And it chooses not to do what is good to reduce abortions.
It does chose to protest gay marriage. We see the priorities of your church and see it as poor.
Again, best adoption program in the world. Strongest proponent for abstinence outside the bonds of marriage. This is the exact action I would expect from a church, not how to use condoms. If this is what you expect to hear when you attend church, maybe that's why you are atheist.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104189
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>So do they tell them contraception is good?

I see your churches stance on females being in the priesthood the same as I see the way your church handled black persons in the priesthood.
Your church is just set in the bigoted ways of old. Someday it will catch up to the good morality of society.
This proves to me your church is not the true church. No good moral god would condone bigotry such as this.
Before I got married, the Bishop at the time did talk to us about use of contraception until we are ready to have children.

Males holding the priesthood is not bigotry. It is just the way God works. There is a reason God sent His Son and not His daughter to atone for the sins of man.
Men and women should have equal rights. But the priesthood is not a right.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104190
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Goodheart wrote:
<quoted text>Recent televised airings don't portray a very enticing picture of that specific religion. At least not the extreme versions of it, and when held up to US civil codes, the term bigamy is more like it. One has to question the sanity of any "practice" where such extreme expectations put upon one person(s), exempts any logical rationality.

As if just supplying food enough, for just a few, isn't WORK enough?

Kind of "whacked in the membranes" type stuff, to some of us anyway, with out a doubt.
What extreme expectations?

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104191
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You are either on the side of promoting what is good, or you are not.
The republicans are not promoting policies that lead to less abortions, democrats do.
No, you are wrong. Sorry, but you are wrong. There are times and places to promote good things. Church is not there to promote all of them. Church is there to promote faith in God.
Eating your green vegetables and your fruits is good too, but I don't go to church to hear about that.

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104192
May 20, 2013
 
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
If this is what you expect to hear when you attend church, maybe that's why you are atheist.
Atheism has little to do with church. Most theists do not attend church. Please think before you type.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104193
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>You are either on the side of promoting what is good, or you are not.
The republicans are not promoting policies that lead to less abortions, democrats do.
Susan Komen foundation: does marvelously good things for people. No mention of contraceptives.
Jerry's telethon and the MDA: fabulous good things for disabled people. No mention of contraceptives.
Leap Frog, the Wiggles, Barney: promote early education and child development. No mention of contraceptives.
DARE program: major advancement in the 80's to educate the dangers of drugs to kids. No mention of contraceptives.
LDS Church: one of the largest behind the scenes contributors to disaster relief and poverty. Brings people closer to Jesus Christ. Makes a strong promotion of abstinence from sex outside the bonds of marriage. Made a stance that contraceptives are appropriate until ready to have children.

Your argument fails

“I Am No One Else”

Since: Apr 12

Seattle

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104194
May 20, 2013
 
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
No, you are wrong. Sorry, but you are wrong. There are times and places to promote good things. Church is not there to promote all of them. Church is there to promote faith in God.
Eating your green vegetables and your fruits is good too, but I don't go to church to hear about that.
I hate agreeing with you, I honestly do, but you are correct in this matter. Health should be discussed with a qualified doctor, and contraception is technically health. Sex health does need to be included in school at some point during the education, but it is not religion's responsibility, nor should it be, to get involved in such matters.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104195
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>Yes it is and how can dispute this? Guess your church teaches you otherwise?
Clearly if you cannot even understand how contraception prevents pregnancies that are not wanted, you will not promote birth control. Guess your church feels the same.
Your statement was apparently missing a word or two. Read it again. You said:
Contraceptives are a path to unwanted pregnancies.

Are you sure you didn't mean: contraceptives are a path to PREVENT unwanted pregnancies?

Hence my confusion. Your sentence is opposite of the point you have been making.

I agree that contraceptives PREVENT unwanted pregnancies, but that isn't what you said.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104196
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>I just quoted it there again.

"When is abortion OK? Is it ever fine to terminate a pregnancy after an egg has been fertilized, in what cases, and why? Is an extremely high probability of a short life filled with pain and suffering a better thing than simply having a very short life with no pain and suffering? Is the body, life, and livelihood of a pregnant rape victim more or less important than a cluster of a few hundred cells sitting in her uterine wall?"

I've seen no complete answers for these, and I've looked at every post.
My opinion: it is only ok to abort a pregnancy if the mother's life is in danger.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104197
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

_Ummm_ wrote:
<quoted text>Atheism has little to do with church. Most theists do not attend church. Please think before you type.
I think you know what I meant. I worded it that way on purpose. I'm a southerner. I say "you" sometimes where a northerner would say "one".

But again, I think you knew what I meant. Just like I know you don't really mean "most theists do not attend church"

“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104198
May 20, 2013
 
do whut wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, best adoption program in the world. Strongest proponent for abstinence outside the bonds of marriage. This is the exact action I would expect from a church, not how to use condoms. If this is what you expect to hear when you attend church, maybe that's why you are atheist.
Public schools tried that abstinence only teaching and the results proved it ineffective. So keep up the poor teachings and keep seeing abortions increase. Your choice, deal with the results.
Also consider how it makes church look ineffective for the real world.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

|
Report Abuse
|
Judge it!
|
#104199
May 20, 2013
 

Judged:

1

1

1

KittenKoder wrote:
<quoted text>I hate agreeing with you, I honestly do, but you are correct in this matter. Health should be discussed with a qualified doctor, and contraception is technically health. Sex health does need to be included in school at some point during the education, but it is not religion's responsibility, nor should it be, to get involved in such matters.
LOL. I choked first, but then LOL

Tell me when this thread is updated: (Registration is not required)

Add to my Tracker Send me an email

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Other Recent Manchester Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
KY 'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate (Oct '10) 8 min Cornelius Scudmister 149,781
what on fire goosrock 1 hr lil mackdaddy 2
What's up with Jeff Centers firing from KSP 1 hr Time Tells It All 6
Clay County Days 2 hr special olympics ... 13
Kevin Lyttle hidden out 2 hr beats all 7
"Stay In Clay" Org. Dumbest ideal ever! 2 hr Ignorant people 79
Man looking for female roommate. (Sep '12) 6 hr hahaha 16
accident 7 hr cathleen 4
2 hunters shot in clay county Tue my opinion 342

Search the Manchester Forum:
•••

Flash Flood Warning for Clay County was issued at August 20 at 6:57PM EDT

•••
•••
•••

Manchester Jobs

•••
Enter and win $5000
•••

Manchester People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

•••

Manchester News, Events & Info

Click for news, events and info in Manchester
•••

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]
•••