Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,853

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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“Breaking the spell ”

Since: Dec 10

of the puppet master

#100623 Apr 23, 2013
do whut wrote:
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No, of course not, that's why I said " for example". This was a singular example.
I don't think it is a "choice" in most cases. Do you remember making the "choice" to like math or not? Doubtful.
Yes, I have answered. You just didn't accept the answer. I believe in all truth that can be verified by the Holy Ghost. However, every truth in the Bible does not occupy my mind all the time. For example, great detail was written about the interior of the tabernacle that Moses was commanded to construct. But it isn't really relevant to me right now. I think it is neat to read, but it doesn't really pertain to me in my daily life. It certainly shows me that God cares about detail, which cements my belief that one must do much more than simple say "I believe in Jesus Christ", and they will be saved.
I accept your answer but that does not mean I must agree it is a full answer or a good answer.
You have yet to say a single word about the prophets of the old testament possibly being wrong as Brigham was wrong? What is taking you so long to answer this question and others?

Did you make a conscious choice to like girls? I sure did not, and am quite sure liking girls is just something I am programed for. I have zero sexual desire for men and can certainly understand why it is hard to understand some men are attracted to men, as I find it hard to understand. Thus it is extremely likely prophets of old also did not understand, thus they condemned it and claimed god did also. But I am asking why would someone be so sure the prophets were not wrong here? How can one know god actually spoke to these prophets? Why would you have such trust in these men you already claim can be flawed. Flawed men lie and distort. Why would you assume they are not flawed in what they claim a god wants?
Again, you have yet to address this question I have asked many times.
TruthIS

Hazard, KY

#100624 Apr 23, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't think gays will ever be acceptable to your God, but you don't have a problem with gays.
You have some gay friends.
"Some of my best friends are black, but...."
"Some of my best friends are women, but..."
"Some of my best friends are Mexican, but..."
"Some of my best friends are Jewish, but..."
See the pattern?
Here we are, America, deficited to the hilt, laughable if they weren't so patheTic, at the LACK of any manageable "budgets", people with no healthcare, and not enough means to afford ridiculous free market prices, added to that now, a backwards, Tax, Fine and ROB the Honest working class people some more bullchit bill- worthy at this point, only of lining birdcages with, and this is what has been focus "issues" in DC.

Set up an auto-marry-whatever site out of Vegas-$39.95, on-screen confetti and randuhm weddink muzac provided. Spawrkul spawrkul, gwiiter, gwitter.

Maybe THEN, this nation can grow some NON-dysfunctional braincells again, and get on with the business it's SUPPOSED to be tending to, rather than being mired in the gutter level idiocracy that's been mired in for the past few years.
TruthIS

Hazard, KY

#100625 Apr 23, 2013
Mike Duquette wrote:
<quoted text>I accept your answer but that does not mean I must agree it is a full answer or a good answer.
You have yet to say a single word about the prophets of the old testament possibly being wrong as Brigham was wrong? What is taking you so long to answer this question and others?
Did you make a conscious choice to like girls? I sure did not, and am quite sure liking girls is just something I am programed for. I have zero sexual desire for men and can certainly understand why it is hard to understand some men are attracted to men, as I find it hard to understand. Thus it is extremely likely prophets of old also did not understand, thus they condemned it and claimed god did also. But I am asking why would someone be so sure the prophets were not wrong here? How can one know god actually spoke to these prophets? Why would you have such trust in these men you already claim can be flawed. Flawed men lie and distort. Why would you assume they are not flawed in what they claim a god wants?
Again, you have yet to address this question I have asked many times.
Do yew thank gurls knows how ta dew buh-ud-jets n stuff? Do yew thank they cans chews gum, walk AND talk, all at the same time? Do you thanks ALL of dem can dew that, or just some?

Do yew thanks ones tha cans do that kind of stuff well, should be punished fer it?

Ah was just a wondering.....
So true

Albany, KY

#100626 Apr 23, 2013
Great day to you all... No matter how we believe we all know what we had after we have lost it....

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100627 Apr 23, 2013
You are funny wrote:
<quoted text>
Riddle me this priest how many commandments are there?
There are no (0) commandments as there is no god to give them in the first place.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100628 Apr 23, 2013
Tea parties are for little girls

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#100629 Apr 23, 2013
More proof that prayer does nothing

http://news.yahoo.com/2nd-child-pa-couple-die...

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#100630 Apr 23, 2013
curious wrote:
<quoted text>
="ChromiuMan"]<qu oted text>
Revelation has no place in the New Testament and shouldn't have been included.
A fool is wise,in his own eyes.Now,we have the Atheists claiming that they are eminently qualified to determine what books should be contained in The New Testament.
You must be a comedy writer for Jay Leno,that's why they fired him.
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
Why do think Revelations has no place in the New Testament? Where else would such a chapter be placed chroniLogically?
A reasonable question. There isn't any evidence that John of Patmos was John the Apostle. Revelation bears no resemblance to the Gospel of John. There isn't any reasonable expectation that Rev. was divinely inspired or that John of Patmos even laid eyes on Jesus. There were many other writings in circulation by the third century that were actually held to be eyewitness accounts, and yet not only were those not included in the canonized Bible, many were deemed by the Councils to be false, irrelevant or sacrilegious and were ordered to be systematically destroyed. Revelation, on the other hand was a terrific tool to reinforce the punishment/reward doctrine of the church and as such has become indispensable. That is the only "chroniLogical" reason for its inclusion and longevity.

Since: Aug 10

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#100631 Apr 23, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
Why would you think it should?
I don't.

Since: Aug 10

Location hidden

#100632 Apr 23, 2013
TruthIS wrote:
<quoted text>
Here we are, America, deficited to the hilt, laughable if they weren't so patheTic, at the LACK of any manageable "budgets", people with no healthcare, and not enough means to afford ridiculous free market prices, added to that now, a backwards, Tax, Fine and ROB the Honest working class people some more bullchit bill- worthy at this point, only of lining birdcages with, and this is what has been focus "issues" in DC.
Set up an auto-marry-whatever site out of Vegas-$39.95, on-screen confetti and randuhm weddink muzac provided. Spawrkul spawrkul, gwiiter, gwitter.
Maybe THEN, this nation can grow some NON-dysfunctional braincells again, and get on with the business it's SUPPOSED to be tending to, rather than being mired in the gutter level idiocracy that's been mired in for the past few years.
Is there a relevant point in there somewhere?

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#100633 Apr 23, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there a relevant point in there somewhere?
Not from the self proclaimed sozi, just stupidity.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#100634 Apr 23, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
You have a problem with a third electorial party?
Too bad...get used to it-they've (third parties)have been around a LONG, long time.
And as for the rest-I don't believe in ABUSES of the system.
And these days, there are many and that's why it's BROKE(N).
I do realize however, those statements are defining of my OWN perspective in that NOT everyone is a jackboot political party licker, and NOT everyone abuses the system(s) and that type of ideology of thinking for ones self based upon actual characteristics of expected repreesentations via MERITOCRACY, rather than mindless bobbleheadness, is offensive, to jack bootlickers!
Too bad for you again.
You'll get used to it, or not. Either way, NOT my problem, stumpy!
Actually, I'd like to vote for whoever I want in every election, but the 2 party system has it rigged for its own purposes.
I would welcome an honest and straightforward "common sense" third party that is not surreptitiously vested in special interests and the top 3%.
TruthIs

Hazard, KY

#100635 Apr 23, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
Tea parties are for little girls
And keep your paws away from the fine cutlery and vestabules of!
TruthIs

Hazard, KY

#100636 Apr 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
<quoted text>
A reasonable question. There isn't any evidence that John of Patmos was John the Apostle. Revelation bears no resemblance to the Gospel of John. There isn't any reasonable expectation that Rev. was divinely inspired or that John of Patmos even laid eyes on Jesus. There were many other writings in circulation by the third century that were actually held to be eyewitness accounts, and yet not only were those not included in the canonized Bible, many were deemed by the Councils to be false, irrelevant or sacrilegious and were ordered to be systematically destroyed. Revelation, on the other hand was a terrific tool to reinforce the punishment/reward doctrine of the church and as such has become indispensable. That is the only "chroniLogical" reason for its inclusion and longevity.
Yeah well, it's still interesting stuff-especially when archeology keeps unearthing oh..umm..."related incidentals".

(and it would've been unscholarly to have placed it anywhere else within the pages of!)
TruthIs

Hazard, KY

#100637 Apr 23, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't.
Glad to hear that, it's encouraging that the plague of ignorance has spread to all parts of duh tread!!!
TruthIs

Hazard, KY

#100638 Apr 23, 2013
edit _has NOT spread to all parts....
TruthIs

Hazard, KY

#100639 Apr 23, 2013
Skeptical Spectacles wrote:
<quoted text>
Is there a relevant point in there somewhere?
Yeah, we need to stomp on some of rampant the stupid so the ones with some actual intelligence and braincell activity with ideas... worthy of thought and time, can move this nation FORWARD again-rather than failing backwards-thirty years behind the times and stuff.
TruthIs

Hazard, KY

#100640 Apr 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Actually, I'd like to vote for whoever I want in every election, but the 2 party system has it rigged for its own purposes.
I would welcome an honest and straightforward "common sense" third party that is not surreptitiously vested in special interests and the top 3%.
Really-all states should have that inclusion in all elections-INCLUDING preliminaries!

“pervinco per logica”

Since: Feb 12

Eradicate willful ignorance.

#100641 Apr 23, 2013
I will be as polite as possible as I explain the truth of this matter.
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
Why some of us even find the BS that it has to be "either" the BB or Creationism, utterly contemptible, severely lacking and devoid of much of any logic at all.
That's because you have an agenda or simply don't understand what logic is. And these are facts, not insults.

Literal interpretations of Genesis (AKA "creationism") are simply as wrong as you can get. There is a universe of contradiction. You literally cannot look ANYWHERE without finding evidence that disproves it. People who believe the literal interpretation is correct and that science is wrong are brainwashed.

That said, Christians who believe that Genesis is simply an allegory that was intended to tell a primitive people about what created them (more so than how) at least aren't contradicting reality. So they are respectable in that way. But they are still illogical. They have no justification for their beliefs (which is why it's called "faith" instead of "science"). If there are simple processes that have been theorized that are compatible with the laws of nature and require no supernatural contribution, science does not allow the addition of some supernatural contributing factor.

Further, even if we DON'T know what caused a certain thing in the past, that does not allow a logical conclusion that "God did it", because that would be a logical fallacy (argument from ignorance). The only conclusion one can logically draw is "we don't know" and then seek out new information.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#100642 Apr 23, 2013
TruthIs wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah well, it's still interesting stuff-especially when archeology keeps unearthing oh..umm..."related incidentals".
(and it would've been unscholarly to have placed it anywhere else within the pages of!)
It was "unscholarly" to have placed it anywhere. It could easily be the visions and ramblings of a schizophrenic.

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