Bible study rules for public schools proposed

Feb 10, 2010 Full story: The Courier-Journal 131,885

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Wrong again Sparky

Richmond, KY

#97050 Mar 23, 2013
Pat wrote:
...hey, who made god?
...and don't try that, "god just was!" nonsense!....if that's the case, then the universe was, "just was"
...you religious types have got to realize that your basing your life on fairy tales, and your fools are wasting your life praying to "god" that has a predetermined plan anyhow...LOLOLOLOLOL...your born into dept....LOLOLOL.....what suckers!
"you religious types have got to realize that your basing your life on fairy tales"
Not at all! I base my life on actual events...
I'm still alive, and redeemed by Jesus! No fairy tale there!
.
The Bible talks of a fool... those that say in their heart
"There is no God!"
No fool here!
Good day!
Mariowhatshisnam e

London, KY

#97051 Mar 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Try telling that to the folks in the Church of Man Made Global Climate Change......
"Consensus is the Bane of Good Science...." - Q
Bob called, he said stop teasing the lamebrains!

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97052 Mar 23, 2013
Wrong again Sparky wrote:
<quoted text>You forget...
There's a lot more of us, that KNOWs God is real...
2/3-3/4.... Your the one missing out!
We hope that changes for ya!
Dream on. About 25% of Americans are church goers. There are more Pagans, Atheist, Agnostics, and I dont care people than there are church people.
When they do polls people who do not want to be preached at will say they are christians just to be left alone but they do not want to hear your crap, do not read the bible or believe in it, and are not christians.
You are a small minority getting smaller. Soon it will be nothing but old ladies and than your cult will die.
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#97053 Mar 23, 2013
happy wrote:
<quoted text>
He's pretty funny. Maybe he's having as much fun as we are. Keep it light and with love, don't show hatred ... To these that hate. They are the ones who NEED LOVE the MOST
I've been here for two years... It gets hard not to call a liar, a liar...
Same stuff over n over!
It would be funny if it were not so sad!
I don't hate any of them, as I was worse than they,
and God showed me grace... Amen!
God Bless!

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97054 Mar 23, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Ask God...
He'll tell you!
I asked god, but since he is not real he can not answer

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#97055 Mar 23, 2013
Mariowhatshisname wrote:
<quoted text>
Bob called, he said stop teasing the lamebrains!
Say Whut?
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9Dbd4uQlXL...

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#97056 Mar 23, 2013
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>I've been here for two years... It gets hard not to call a liar, a liar...
Same stuff over n over!
It would be funny if it were not so sad!
I don't hate any of them, as I was worse than they,
and God showed me grace... Amen!
God Bless!
Yet you still smoke meth
Known Fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#97057 Mar 23, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
This is why it is impossible to take you seriously. I'm aware of the book you mentioned. I don't know if you realize it or not, but that book is an absolute joke outside the Watchtower circles. By "thoroughly researched" you can only mean it was ripped to shreds a million times by scientists and skeptics and people who still have enough brain cells to rub together to recognize garbage when they see it.
I don't understand how you could possibly think that book is respected outside your church. I'm not even a scientist and I can tell you it is complete nonsense.
You would do better to simply have your faith and stop trying to paint it as rational. It is not rational, nor is it supported by evidence. But the last time I checked evidence was not an element of faith to begin with.
Not all scientist are stupid, many recognize that there must be a creator. Anyone who has examined the complexity of life on earth would have to admit there is no way it could come about by blind chance.
Can you explain why that book is in many libraries throught the U.S. and Canada.
All you can do is try to belittle anyone who does not buy into your false claims with no evidence to support them. You are correct about evidence not being an element of faith. So why don't you drop this THEORY of evolution with no evidence or produce one shread of evidence to support it! As the old saying goes, "put up or shut up!"
Yes and Amen

Richmond, KY

#97058 Mar 23, 2013
happy wrote:
<quoted text>
I think chrom your knowledge or unknowl.. Lol of the bible shows... You do get the stories quite messed up ...
Read it some more, it never gets old
No... it never does get old!
Care to elaborate on my mistakes?
just where did I make them?
Thanks!
TheIndependentMa jority

London, KY

#97059 Mar 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
ok two points :-)

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#97060 Mar 23, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Try telling that to the folks in the Church of Man Made Global Climate Change......
"Consensus is the Bane of Good Science...." - Q
There is something else that scientific consensus is the bane of: the kook. That one guy in his basement who knows he *knows* he has figured out the way to create a perpetual energy machine. But those dirty ivory tower bastards won't even read his 1600 page hypothesis!

It's also the bane of the Creationist who thinks Noah's boat can hold every animal in the world (x2) but can't accept that mutation + selection = genetic diversity.

And it's the bane of the anti-vaccine nut who thinks autism is caused by mercury but polio just went away on its own.

Damn that pesky consensus of experts! If not for them we'd have a field day in Crazytown!!

lol

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#97061 Mar 23, 2013
Known Fact wrote:
<quoted text>
Not all scientist are stupid, many recognize that there must be a creator. Anyone who has examined the complexity of life on earth would have to admit there is no way it could come about by blind chance.
Can you explain why that book is in many libraries throught the U.S. and Canada.
All you can do is try to belittle anyone who does not buy into your false claims with no evidence to support them. You are correct about evidence not being an element of faith. So why don't you drop this THEORY of evolution with no evidence or produce one shread of evidence to support it! As the old saying goes, "put up or shut up!"
"Not all scientists are stupid"?? As if most of them are? You have a very strange definition of stupid if the most highly trained minds on the planet count as such.

"Anyone who has examined the complexity of life on earth would have to admit there is no way it could come about by blind chance."

People who examine the complexity of life on earth are called biologists (and related "ists"). Most of them are atheists, agnostics, or otherwise non-religious. So that kinda throws a monkey wrench in your hypothesis.

Also, "blind chance" is not what drives biological diversity. That is a Creationist strawman. Crack a book. I suggest "What Evolution Is" by Ernst Mayr as a very good primer on the subject of evolution.

Your last paragraph is weird. Why are you arguing with me by simply reversing all the things you think I'm saying? It is not a very compelling argument for the accused killer to scream at the prosecuting attorney "Oh yeah, well I think YOU did it!".

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

East Bernstadt, KY

#97062 Mar 23, 2013
Yiago wrote:
<quoted text>
There is something else that scientific consensus is the bane of: the kook. That one guy in his basement who knows he *knows* he has figured out the way to create a perpetual energy machine. But those dirty ivory tower bastards won't even read his 1600 page hypothesis!
It's also the bane of the Creationist who thinks Noah's boat can hold every animal in the world (x2) but can't accept that mutation + selection = genetic diversity.
And it's the bane of the anti-vaccine nut who thinks autism is caused by mercury but polio just went away on its own.
Damn that pesky consensus of experts! If not for them we'd have a field day in Crazytown!!
lol
Yes but many a Kook in the Basement has been Correct... that 1600 page hypothesis may hold a sliver of information that allowed the next Eureka moment when a naked guy runs down the hallway... Consensus has actually seldom been correct completely and I can name many scientifically held consensuses that have been completely wrong once some kook in the basement got a few ivory towers to read what he has written.... Let's see Civilization is only 6k to 7k years from Hunter Gatherer to Us today... The earth is the center of the universe and resides in concentric transparent spheres.... The speed of Light is Constant...(That one you will have to read my hypothesis to figure out)....
GWB

Roseville, CA

#97064 Mar 23, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>
The elders wouldn't be to happy if you showed this kind of attitude at the door buddy. You'd be back in the library after the Thursday night meeting begging to keep your microphone handling privileges.
Do you think Known Fact turning in the time preaching on this forum to the watchtower in New York? Does the watchtower approve this type of debate with unbeleivers on the web by Known Fact which usually ends with Known Fact making JW's look outmatched and foolish?
GWB

Roseville, CA

#97066 Mar 23, 2013
-NEPHILIM- wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha, you know a little about the JWs. Yeah, I'm sure he's turning this in on his time card. As far as hanging out on sites like this, it's a big no no.
I have spent a lot of time on this forum and reading information on other sites about JW's along with reading some debates. I never have talk to one that has left the JW's and find the information interesting. Yiago have some pod cast links of ex-JW's and ex-Mormons. Yet not had one one this site to question.

Here is a link that I followed for awhile just for information. Known Fact said JW's do not debate, that is subjective, but objectively they do. See link below. You might have a interest in this one. I thought this might just be some fake debate by those posing to be JW's and now I think it is real debate or as some here say a fundy cage match.

http://www.topix.com/member/profile/themadjw
happy

Lexington, KY

#97067 Mar 23, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>You state what you feel, your dogmas and your "truths" - not what is true. Mind your 9th commandment.
Lost on the wind ... I know. Gravity also
Dwayne Grubb

Cold Lake, Canada

#97068 Mar 23, 2013
The, the bible does not pay for you to live, the bible does not cure illness, the bible does nothing but work as rolling papers, also teaching the bible is funny seeing the the person reading off is dumber than the saps listening because some divine power is out there f true believers, well why do you need donations from hard working gullible people? if god is real, why not ask him for the money that the church needs, money for the needy? AHAHAHAHAHA sex before marraige no no no, but the preist have sex with boys and its like, well lets just ignore it, i'm sure he didn't mean it, and yah i don't care how many times you say holy mary, sick fucks and your're all hyprocrites, who smoke meth and watch gay porn,

“Question, Explore, Discover”

Since: Dec 11

Location hidden

#97072 Mar 24, 2013
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes but many a Kook in the Basement has been Correct... that 1600 page hypothesis may hold a sliver of information that allowed the next Eureka moment when a naked guy runs down the hallway... Consensus has actually seldom been correct completely and I can name many scientifically held consensuses that have been completely wrong once some kook in the basement got a few ivory towers to read what he has written.... Let's see Civilization is only 6k to 7k years from Hunter Gatherer to Us today... The earth is the center of the universe and resides in concentric transparent spheres.... The speed of Light is Constant...(That one you will have to read my hypothesis to figure out)....
I agree with you that an institution can corrupt an idea, which is what you're getting at I think. But your line of reasoning, to me, would turn science into Open Mic Night. I'm not sure how anything would get accomplished.

Also, no theory is absolutely true or perfect. We cannot peel back that final layer and gaze upon the naked universe. Whatever works, works. That's how it works. The theory that works best given our current understanding and technology is going to be the prevailing theory. It doesn't matter if it later gets overturned. Hindsight is 20/20, but foresight is far from perfect.

I actually wish more people could get their ideas heard and taken seriously because I'm sure somewhere out there is a guy with a paper that has the potential to overturn paradigms in science. But unfortunately for every paradigm-shifting work of genius there are a thousand wastes of time. And time is money, and that's the most limited resource in this game.

And for someone like me, a non-scientist, I have to trust the experts. I can read the ideas and vet them to the extent that I am able to do so. But at some point I'm going to hit a wall of technicality that I'm not able or willing to scramble over. At that point I'm going to have to give it my *conditional* approval and move on. If I reject the idea that 90% of all experts agree on and I embrace an idea that one or two people promote then on what basis am I lending my trust? It can't be reason. It has to be something else, some kind of faith or fascination with the idea.

I lend my trust on evidence alone. And the consensus of experts is a part of that evidence. I do not see how it could be otherwise.
How stupid can you be

Richmond, KY

#97073 Mar 24, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Past those books? You mean like reading about King Hammurabi and his code of laws - where "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" probably came from in the first place? Or do you mean that if I snort enough meth I'll be able to read between the lines? I might've burned a brain cell or two in the '70's, but I didn't do those lines.
Have a cookie.
No! I mean the OT into the NT!
Unless you're 300 lbs...
I've probably done your weight in drugs...
Meth, Acid, Pot, Coke, Morphine, Booze, Paint, gas,
lighter fluid, List goes on...
(No Crack, or real Heroin)
And guess what?
I'm STILL Alive, and Lucid!
WHY??? Why did I survive something that kills most everyone else?
I asked God that question, and the answer was...
When I first heard of Him, and Jesus as a kid...
I Truly believed!
It only took 40 more years to get my act together, and
excape satans grip!
Good, n evil are in the world, and now...
I'm on the Good side!
I truly hope that happens for you... soon!
How stupid can you be

Richmond, KY

#97074 Mar 24, 2013
ChromiuMan wrote:
<quoted text>
Eye witnesses like Saul and John of Patmos? You know the chronology of the writings and the compilations of the Councils of Constantine were waaay past the time of eye witness accounts. Do you think there was a stenographer at the Sermon of the Mount?
Don't be obtuse.
Wrong again!
Saul only seen Jesus on the way to Damascus, but was in contact with Him the rest of his life!
The Gospels, and Pauls letters circulated long before
Constintine came, and perverted Christianity with paganism!
But, Hey... Believe what you want!

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