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There are 32 comments on the NBC29 Charlottesville story from Sep 18, 2012, titled Judge: UVA Researcher's Emails Exempt from Disclosure - NBC29 WVIR Charlottesville, VA News, Spor.... In it, NBC29 Charlottesville reports that:

A judge has rejected a conservative group's attempt to obtain a former University of Virginia climate researcher's emails.

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County Resident

Raleigh, NC

#28 Sep 19, 2012
Disillusioned wrote:
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Whether you want to acknowledge it or not, there is a lot of controversy and supposition related to the theory. Is the climate changing? Yes. Can they say for sure why? No. Has the world's climate been in a state of flux always? Yes.
Perhaps they are trying to be sure the research is not simply skewed to prove a certain result?
If there is nothing to hide, why the secrecy?
That's exactly what we should ask Mitt re: his tax returns if he has nothing to hide. Yes, climate is changing, but shouldn't we be doing all we can to lessen the impact on US, even if it is a natural phenomena? Heck no, let's just make it worse! We won't be around to die from lack of water, or food, or overpopulation, or extreme heat. That's for the NEXT generation to worry about. Oh, wait! We are concerned that they will have to shoulder a financial debt, but not that they have a planet to live on. These nay-sayers make me ill.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#30 Sep 19, 2012
Disillusioned wrote:
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Can they say for sure why? No.
Yes they can; what is at the heart of the debate is whether it is natural, anthropogenic, or a combination of, and if it's a combination what level of it is anthropogenic.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#31 Sep 19, 2012
heh wrote:
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it was cheering
UVA won't voluntarily release the emails and won't break the law
The judged ruled that FOI does not apply in this case. Not sure how else I can rephrase it for you.
maybe cooch can concentrate on Obama's birth certificate or sumthin'
It's a mixed bag, certainly you don't want activism getting in the way of honest peer review in the name of funding, on the other hand you don't necessarily want to risk 4th Amendment violations on a assumption of guilt, especially from Discovery Institute hacks. Like most articles, it is short of detail, and when detail is lacking I tend to side with the experts (in this case the judge)
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Thanks for the "why I love mormanism" article. The more I read about it, the harder I find it to believe that mainstream Christianity is willing to embrace it.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#34 Sep 19, 2012
heh wrote:
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Green energy and conservation is a good thing in any case. Why burn all carbon fuels now? Our children will only think of us as selfish. Pollution is bad for the health.
Lots of reasons for the cooch to lay off.
It's a matter of national security and it's a violation of our personal property and civil rights.(especially if it's anthropogenic) On the flip side, it's expensive and inconvenient. I find the whole debate bizarre and I find our actions over the last 28 years to be in conflict with instinctual survival as a species.
Dude

Winchester, VA

#35 Sep 19, 2012
heh wrote:
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Mormons are genuinely nice people, just a little nuts.
One of the best Chiefs that I served with was Mormon. I really like how the article starts out in defense of the individual. I've worked with and am related to some really religious scientists, and they are great lead by example walk the walk Christians. I'm not sure they buy into the complete doctrine, but they understand the value of rules, taboos, and community. The more I read about Mormonism though, the more I am convinced that it was the inspiration of L. Ron Hubbard's Scientology.
Pat

Wytheville, VA

#37 Sep 19, 2012
heh wrote:
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it was cheering
UVA won't voluntarily release the emails and won't break the law
The judged ruled that FOI does not apply in this case. Not sure how else I can rephrase it for you.
maybe cooch can concentrate on Obama's birth certificate or sumthin'
Explain what law they would break heh, if they released the emails. Certainly not the Judges ruling. Can't admit you are wrong I guess.
Trouble is you only want full disclosure from governmental bodies when it suits your beliefs.
New Day for Taxpayers

Charlottesville, VA

#38 Sep 19, 2012
Global warming is a liberal hoax. These criminals should be exposed!
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#39 Sep 20, 2012
County Resident wrote:
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That's exactly what we should ask Mitt re: his tax returns if he has nothing to hide. Yes, climate is changing, but shouldn't we be doing all we can to lessen the impact on US, even if it is a natural phenomena? Heck no, let's just make it worse! We won't be around to die from lack of water, or food, or overpopulation, or extreme heat. That's for the NEXT generation to worry about. Oh, wait! We are concerned that they will have to shoulder a financial debt, but not that they have a planet to live on. These nay-sayers make me ill.
So this is a political issue for you? Of course it is!

OK, so let me get this straight. You do not believe researchers should be forced to disclose their records when funded by tax payers, but you do believe a presidential candidate should be forced to provide copies of his tax returns when it is not a requirement to run for that office? Let's take it a step further then, and unseal the academic records of the Obamas. The list could go on and on.

Surely you can see the double standard of your own remarks.
Disillusioned

Charlottesville, VA

#40 Sep 20, 2012
County Resident wrote:
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That's exactly what we should ask Mitt re: his tax returns if he has nothing to hide. Yes, climate is changing, but shouldn't we be doing all we can to lessen the impact on US, even if it is a natural phenomena? Heck no, let's just make it worse! We won't be around to die from lack of water, or food, or overpopulation, or extreme heat. That's for the NEXT generation to worry about. Oh, wait! We are concerned that they will have to shoulder a financial debt, but not that they have a planet to live on. These nay-sayers make me ill.
In addition, unless you require China and India (and others) to change their standards as well as our own, our efforts will net very little affect.

I loved it when the "daddy" of global warming, Al Gore was proven to be such a hypocrite and his electric bills were reported (see link below). Typical.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/GlobalWarming/...
Hope not the faith kind

Charlottesville, VA

#41 Sep 23, 2012
Why has Antarctica set "another" ice record if the planet is heating up?

From FORBES “Antarctic sea ice set another record this past week, with the most amount of ice ever recorded on day 256 of the calendar year”
From Night Science Journalism at MIT”
“On Wednesday, the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado reported that "Arctic sea ice cover likely melted to its minimum extent for the year on September 16," and that this "summer minimum" was "now the lowest summer minimum extent in the satellite record." The implications were frightening, the center's director said in a statement:
“We are now in uncharted territory,” said NSIDC Director Mark Serreze.“While we’ve long known that as the planet warms up, changes would be seen first and be most pronounced in the Arctic, few of us were prepared for how rapidly the changes would actually occur….”[HNTFK – Frightening indeed to those whom are trying to promote a hoax.]
Hope not the faith kind

Charlottesville, VA

#42 Sep 23, 2012
CLK wrote:
ENOUGH with this witch hunt, already. How is it that these folks believe in creationism but not global warming? It's the height of stupidity. I have been to the Caribbean multiple times, and each time, more and more coral has died because the water is getting warmer. Polar ice caps are melting. Is that magic? How stupid do you really have to be to not get it?!
It is not a matter of "getting it" or not. What the core of the matter is if Mankind has caused global warming or if mankind is influencing the climate and therefore causing increasingly negative effects on the environment. The world has been cycling hot and cold for millennia; melting polar ice, freezing, etc. and it will continue without mankind’s influence. The issue at hand is weather corporations or governments have the right to tax the populace because of an individual’s alleged influence on the environment; for example: the exhaled breath in our bodies, car exhaust, cow flatulence, carbon footprint, etc., in order to prevent these naturally occurring cycles from happening. If the governing powers are using this individual’s research as a catalyst to make changes and therefore tax humanity for these alleged influences/ emissions then the research and any related information is required to be transparent; for truth purposes only. If mankind’s influence, on the naturally occurring “climate change”, is being reported as truth when it is just a ruse for implementing unjust taxes and forming new governmental legislation then it must be exposed as a fraud. If the research is correct and true, with nothing to hide, disclosing the research and any related information, to proclaim this truth factually, should not be problematic.
Hope not the faith kind

Charlottesville, VA

#43 Sep 23, 2012
For example: "I remember in the late 1960's being so afraid when my mother told me we (humanity) would all have to live in igloos like Eskimo's because of GLOBAL COOLING! Then it became GLOBAL WARMING and we would all drown! Now, the experts call it CLIMATE CHANGE! This process is cyclical and it is proven there are tropical fossils in what were once glacial locations. Plus they found tropical plants in the stomach of a frozen Mastodon; meaning there was some CATACLISMIC cooling/warming before man was able to affect change on the Earth. Let us complain about separation of church and state; we as modern humanity are being unjustly subjected to the belief and religious-like faith of the planet worshipers, such as Earth Charter, Gaia, and Arch of Hope where we pay monetary tithes (carbon taxes, use tax, pollutant waivers) to governmental agencies and corporations which administer these policies. You find it offensive when some Christian says Merry Christmas? Wait until you are PHYSICALLY forced to pay homage to the earth. The Kyoto Protocol was not signed by US and Agenda 21 was signed by Bush in 1992 but not ratified by Congress; this is very dangerous stuff. Agenda 21 is being aggressively implemented by many jurisdictions in the States. Search Kyoto Protocol and Agenda 21."

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