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Elizabethtown, KY

#1 Jan 7, 2009
well. thats interesting. im not a person to say what it is or isnt. the orb ive seen.. and the orbs ive heard described by a few other people have been orange. and theyre fast. looks like it would leave some kind of trail or something. could it have been mist? most of the "orbs" are in the upper part of the picture, which could have resulted from the position of the flash being on the upper part of the camera. thats a very cool picture however you look at it. what do you think? i think theres a group fixing to form in my area. getting some equipment together. messing with the notion of trying to discover new things. the pic is interesting. what was the feel there?
Sunshine on a Rainy Day

Glasgow, KY

#2 Jan 8, 2009
Looks kinda creepy.

Does anyone else have any stories to tell about Joppa Cemetery? I've been there a couple of times and it seems kinda creepy and I believe I brought a spirit of a little boy home with me.

“small towns, small minds”

Since: Oct 08

Wonderland

#3 Jan 10, 2009
that cemetery is very strange. I have visited it many of times. So many crazy expirences.

Since: Jan 09

Sadieville

#4 Jan 11, 2009
I took this pic. Most people get freaked out inside of the church. The church is where all of the activity is suppose to happen. However-the people I was with and myself felt as though we were being watched from the woods the entire time we were outside. That is why we took photos towards that direction. This particular night-nothing happened inside. But another visit we took, we made a point to go and check the bible to see what page. We went outside for about 20 minutes and then returned back inside. It had indeed changed pages. It is a very neat place. This is the first time I have been unable to "debunk". We tried to shut the door to make a breeze and NOTHING we tried would change the pages. As for this pic-there was no lights, it was a clear night, so no mist, there was no bugs. I will not say that it is orbs. But this is something I can't figure out. I love seeing everyone else's opinions. I would REALLY like a specialists to see this.

“small towns, small minds”

Since: Oct 08

Wonderland

#5 Jan 11, 2009
Former Roundhillian wrote:
I took this pic. Most people get freaked out inside of the church. The church is where all of the activity is suppose to happen. However-the people I was with and myself felt as though we were being watched from the woods the entire time we were outside. That is why we took photos towards that direction. This particular night-nothing happened inside. But another visit we took, we made a point to go and check the bible to see what page. We went outside for about 20 minutes and then returned back inside. It had indeed changed pages. It is a very neat place. This is the first time I have been unable to "debunk". We tried to shut the door to make a breeze and NOTHING we tried would change the pages. As for this pic-there was no lights, it was a clear night, so no mist, there was no bugs. I will not say that it is orbs. But this is something I can't figure out. I love seeing everyone else's opinions. I would REALLY like a specialists to see this.
Is this at Joppa or at Mammoth Cave Baptist?

I have never been to Joppa, but I have heard stories. I know that there is no lights around the Mammoth Cave Baptist, I'm almost positive there aren't any at Joppa either... I have friends who have visited there.

I have never ventured inside the church when I visited at night, just once during the day, and there wasn't any crazy activity. I remember the bible was turned to a page in the book of Proverbs. I picked the bible up and looked at the inside cover, the date on it was 1993. The first time I drove by the church I remember looking at it and feeling as if there was a hostile force warning me to stay away. Later when I visited actually stopped, opened the door and stepped out of the car, I felt major hostility once again coming from the woods. It was a pretty freaky experience out side the church... I was not about to go inside the church.

Since: Jan 09

Sadieville

#6 Jan 12, 2009
This was at Joppa, and no there isn't any lights there or at Mammoth Cave Baptist. That feeling is the same feeling we had got before we first visited. It took us forever to actually get out of the car. lol We were all employees of the park service. We have visited just about every place that had a "ghost story" behind it. Another strange place is the Heritage Trail-it is the trail that goes behind the hotel. It leads to the Old Cave Guide's Cemetery. We got a scare out there. Stephen Bishop is suppose to haunt that. I know the story behind it , but it is a long story. We also went to the caves at night and Floyd Collins' grave site (I would not get out of the car here)--I was a chicken at this site. LOL We also went through areas at Park Mammoth.

“small towns, small minds”

Since: Oct 08

Wonderland

#7 Jan 12, 2009
Former Roundhillian wrote:
This was at Joppa, and no there isn't any lights there or at Mammoth Cave Baptist. That feeling is the same feeling we had got before we first visited. It took us forever to actually get out of the car. lol We were all employees of the park service. We have visited just about every place that had a "ghost story" behind it. Another strange place is the Heritage Trail-it is the trail that goes behind the hotel. It leads to the Old Cave Guide's Cemetery. We got a scare out there. Stephen Bishop is suppose to haunt that. I know the story behind it , but it is a long story. We also went to the caves at night and Floyd Collins' grave site (I would not get out of the car here)--I was a chicken at this site. LOL We also went through areas at Park Mammoth.
The Church I was talking about in the earlier post was the one that Floyd Collins is buried at. I didn't get out of the car their either... like maybe for 2 or 3 mins but the hostile vibes freaked me out way too badly, there was no way I wanted to stick around to witness the wrath or w/e.

hco

Since: Dec 08

United States

#8 Jan 14, 2009
i have been there 2 times and nothing has happen to me ether time i played the quigi board ones and still nothing

hco

Since: Dec 08

Elizabethtown, KY

#9 Jan 17, 2009
also every time i went there, a nice little park ranger always happened to pull up..lol, changed the excitement
Enoch

Cincinnati, OH

#10 Apr 14, 2009
looks like you need to clean your lens...

water spots perhaps?

not that i'm a total skeptic... here's something i took about a dozen years ago...

http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i240/joe_sc...
Missy

Harvest, AL

#11 Jul 6, 2009
Former Roundhillian wrote:
I took this pic. Most people get freaked out inside of the church. The church is where all of the activity is suppose to happen. However-the people I was with and myself felt as though we were being watched from the woods the entire time we were outside. That is why we took photos towards that direction. This particular night-nothing happened inside. But another visit we took, we made a point to go and check the bible to see what page. We went outside for about 20 minutes and then returned back inside. It had indeed changed pages. It is a very neat place. This is the first time I have been unable to "debunk". We tried to shut the door to make a breeze and NOTHING we tried would change the pages. As for this pic-there was no lights, it was a clear night, so no mist, there was no bugs. I will not say that it is orbs. But this is something I can't figure out. I love seeing everyone else's opinions. I would REALLY like a specialists to see this.
I saw 4 or 5 orb light last week July 1 2009 I was with two people one came out of the out house then float over the suv.. it happen as soon as we got there. I thought somebody was holding a light of first. It was not a fash light it was a round light that float checking us out.
cooter

Glasgow, KY

#12 Jul 10, 2009
I have family buried at both cemeteries, Joppa and Mammoth Cave Church on Flint Ridge,(where Floyd Collins is). Actually he is kin, and that is my families old graveyard from before the government took over the land.
These are the the final resting places of real human beings and they have families that still visit. They can't protect themselves from vandals or people looking for fun. Please have respect and leave them alone.

Or you can look at it this way. Those graves are old and the caskets were made of wood and have rotted. Want to have one cave in on you while youre out there playing?

“small towns, small minds”

Since: Oct 08

Wonderland

#13 Jul 19, 2009
cooter wrote:
I have family buried at both cemeteries, Joppa and Mammoth Cave Church on Flint Ridge,(where Floyd Collins is). Actually he is kin, and that is my families old graveyard from before the government took over the land.
These are the the final resting places of real human beings and they have families that still visit. They can't protect themselves from vandals or people looking for fun. Please have respect and leave them alone.
Or you can look at it this way. Those graves are old and the caskets were made of wood and have rotted. Want to have one cave in on you while youre out there playing?
I have never and would never disrespect a person(s) final resting spot. When I have been to those churches... I do not visit the grave sites individually. I can stand in the parking lot and be greeted by vibes, not only that I don't even have to get out of the car and just drive by.

I have visited grave sites during the day, and I'm sorry if that offends you, I mean no harm. I just enjoy spiritual exploring.
cooter

Glasgow, KY

#14 Jul 23, 2009
konstance, no problem. I respect you for respecting my family cemetery. I know its fun to visit old cemeteries. I believe in haunted places too and actually have been visited but it was not scary. I had a problem and my greatgrandfather whom I'd never met or seen a picture of came to me one night and helped me with my problem. He was right.
I can assure you or anyone else reading this that I know alot of the history on the people in that cemetery and they were good people and even if they could come back they would not scare or harm anyone. They all attended that church. My 3rd greatgrandmother is there, 2nd great grandfather, lots of great great aunts, uncles, cousins. Nearly everyone there is related to eachother from years ago and related to me. Floyd is my 2nd cousin. I'm very fortunate that the cemetery is on park property and has not been grown up and lost through all these years.
Smile and wave the next time you're by there. I can assure you that if they could they would smile and wave back.

“small towns, small minds”

Since: Oct 08

Wonderland

#15 Jul 25, 2009
cooter wrote:
konstance, no problem. I respect you for respecting my family cemetery. I know its fun to visit old cemeteries. I believe in haunted places too and actually have been visited but it was not scary. I had a problem and my greatgrandfather whom I'd never met or seen a picture of came to me one night and helped me with my problem. He was right.
I can assure you or anyone else reading this that I know alot of the history on the people in that cemetery and they were good people and even if they could come back they would not scare or harm anyone. They all attended that church. My 3rd greatgrandmother is there, 2nd great grandfather, lots of great great aunts, uncles, cousins. Nearly everyone there is related to eachother from years ago and related to me. Floyd is my 2nd cousin. I'm very fortunate that the cemetery is on park property and has not been grown up and lost through all these years.
Smile and wave the next time you're by there. I can assure you that if they could they would smile and wave back.
I have felt a hostile presence, but that could be because the spirts feel disrespected by a bunch of people coming onto their resting place. That sounds pretty reasonable too me.

If you think about it, it doesn't make any sense for bad spirits to be burried beside a Chruch.
Cooter

Glasgow, KY

#16 Jul 25, 2009
The only time I felt anything hostile was when I was a kid playing around with a Quiga board. Not sure if I spelled that right. Those things are evil. I do believe there are "spirits" out there. I've seen them. Not as orbs, or lights, or dark figures, but as people just like me and you. But I knew these people when they were alive so I knew they were spirits. They've always been helpful, not scary. You have to be open to them. If you're scared you may hurt yourself. Spirits can't hurt you.
In Mammoth Cave Cemetery is the grave of Larkin Columbus Burnett. He preached at the church sometimes. His mother is nearby and her name was Annie Johnson Burnett Gray. All around them are sisters, brothers, nieces, nephews, and cousins. Larkins brother in law Clell Lee is buried there and he built the road from Cave City to Mammoth Cave when it became big on tourism. He was shot in the back at the old post office at Mammoth Cave. Larkin Burnett actually had a cave at the end of Flint Ridge Rd. called Salts Cave before the government took over the property. They used to give tours. Little lost Annie was found in his cave and is the original indian mummy before the one they have on display now. She toured the world in exibits. Lots of the indian artifacts that are on display actually came from his cave. But of course they are all connected so it doesn't matter. Floyd Collins discovered many caves but the one he died in was the one he was hoping to attract tourists to so he could help his family out financially. His being trapped was turned into a circus and they wanted him to stay trapped for as long as possible because it was bringing in money. He died from pneumonia and could have been rescued. He did not have a good or respectable family and his father was one of them trying to make money. The body was stolen and held for ransom once and they believe his father set it up. He was found hanging from a tree over Green River. His step mother and father are buried beside him.
At Joppa Cemetery is the grave of a woman who saved my grandfathers life when he was a baby. He was a twin and the twin died and is buried in Atwell Cemetery.
So there you have some of the history and hopefully those people will be more than graves and a scary place.

“small towns, small minds”

Since: Oct 08

Wonderland

#17 Jul 25, 2009
Cooter wrote:
The only time I felt anything hostile was when I was a kid playing around with a Quiga board. Not sure if I spelled that right. Those things are evil. I do believe there are "spirits" out there. I've seen them. Not as orbs, or lights, or dark figures, but as people just like me and you. But I knew these people when they were alive so I knew they were spirits. They've always been helpful, not scary. You have to be open to them. If you're scared you may hurt yourself. Spirits can't hurt you.
In Mammoth Cave Cemetery is the grave of Larkin Columbus Burnett. He preached at the church sometimes. His mother is nearby and her name was Annie Johnson Burnett Gray. All around them are sisters, brothers, nieces, nephews, and cousins. Larkins brother in law Clell Lee is buried there and he built the road from Cave City to Mammoth Cave when it became big on tourism. He was shot in the back at the old post office at Mammoth Cave. Larkin Burnett actually had a cave at the end of Flint Ridge Rd. called Salts Cave before the government took over the property. They used to give tours. Little lost Annie was found in his cave and is the original indian mummy before the one they have on display now. She toured the world in exibits. Lots of the indian artifacts that are on display actually came from his cave. But of course they are all connected so it doesn't matter. Floyd Collins discovered many caves but the one he died in was the one he was hoping to attract tourists to so he could help his family out financially. His being trapped was turned into a circus and they wanted him to stay trapped for as long as possible because it was bringing in money. He died from pneumonia and could have been rescued. He did not have a good or respectable family and his father was one of them trying to make money. The body was stolen and held for ransom once and they believe his father set it up. He was found hanging from a tree over Green River. His step mother and father are buried beside him.
At Joppa Cemetery is the grave of a woman who saved my grandfathers life when he was a baby. He was a twin and the twin died and is buried in Atwell Cemetery.
So there you have some of the history and hopefully those people will be more than graves and a scary place.
When I say hostile, I don't mean dangerous. I have felt a lot of different vibes from the property.

I love true stories of our anstors lives, I enjoy visiting the elderly because of their stories. I really resptect and enjoy your time briefly explain the history of your anstors.
Cooter

Glasgow, KY

#18 Jul 25, 2009
They immigrated from The Isle of Man and Wales in the early 17th century. First making their homes in Virginia and then KY., settling around Mammoth Cave because it resembled their home land. Annie Johnson Burnett Gray first married David Burnett, son of Robert and they homesteaded outside of Park City. Their farm was where the old lodge is now. David died up there of a heart attack and Annie took the kids and went to live with her family out at Mammoth Cave. Throughout the years the land was cleared and farmed. It looked nothing like it does now. There were little towns and communities all over. In one very sharp curve on Flint Ridge Rd. there was a saloon with dancing girls, liquor, and music. There were stores and houses all around where the old Mammoth Cave Church is now. One old man who happened to be a neighborhood drunk came into the full church one Sunday and peed on the hot wood stove. He was upset that his wife attended church. He belonged to the community but I'm not sure of his name right now.
A stone with the name of Permilia is a great great aunt. She died because she was smoking a corn cob pipe, tripped and shoved the pipe down her throat. She lived for a few days because they couldn't get the pipe out. Annie and many of her children still spoke with the English Irish accent. Larkin Burnett met his wife, Della Lee at the old country store there near the church. Dellas family was supposed to have ESP abilities and she was told that morning that she would met her husband that very day. Della or Dellar as some people called her, is buried at Northtown Cemetary with 2 of their sons. Much of her family is there and Larkins is at Mammoth Cave Cemetary. Lee Collins (Floyds father)was told to be a very mean man and greedy. He learned from his father. His father took all the family out to Oklahoma by wagon and then sneaked back to KY, leaving them there. Lee and most of the kids made their way back to KY. Pate and Clell Lee both fought in WW1. Larkin Burnett was a self taught lawyer and defended families in court when the government came in to take their farms away from them. Of course you can't fight the government so the farms were lost and people had to move away. The towns, houses, stores, farms were either dozed down or left to fall back into the earth. I wouldn't recommend it now, but you can walk around in the woods out there and come across old rock foundations and fallen chimneys. You'll get snake bit now. Or covered with ticks. There is a path near the corner at the end of Flint Ridge Road going toward Northtown. The path will lead you to Salts Cave. Its barred and you can't go in now but people do go there. Wait until it gets cold and the snakes are gone.
I hope this makes the people buried out there a little more real to you now. And it used to be a thriving community.

“small towns, small minds”

Since: Oct 08

Wonderland

#19 Jul 26, 2009
Cooter wrote:
They immigrated from The Isle of Man and Wales in the early 17th century. First making their homes in Virginia and then KY., settling around Mammoth Cave because it resembled their home land. Annie Johnson Burnett Gray first married David Burnett, son of Robert and they homesteaded outside of Park City. Their farm was where the old lodge is now. David died up there of a heart attack and Annie took the kids and went to live with her family out at Mammoth Cave. Throughout the years the land was cleared and farmed. It looked nothing like it does now. There were little towns and communities all over. In one very sharp curve on Flint Ridge Rd. there was a saloon with dancing girls, liquor, and music. There were stores and houses all around where the old Mammoth Cave Church is now. One old man who happened to be a neighborhood drunk came into the full church one Sunday and peed on the hot wood stove. He was upset that his wife attended church. He belonged to the community but I'm not sure of his name right now.
A stone with the name of Permilia is a great great aunt. She died because she was smoking a corn cob pipe, tripped and shoved the pipe down her throat. She lived for a few days because they couldn't get the pipe out. Annie and many of her children still spoke with the English Irish accent. Larkin Burnett met his wife, Della Lee at the old country store there near the church. Dellas family was supposed to have ESP abilities and she was told that morning that she would met her husband that very day. Della or Dellar as some people called her, is buried at Northtown Cemetary with 2 of their sons. Much of her family is there and Larkins is at Mammoth Cave Cemetary. Lee Collins (Floyds father)was told to be a very mean man and greedy. He learned from his father. His father took all the family out to Oklahoma by wagon and then sneaked back to KY, leaving them there. Lee and most of the kids made their way back to KY. Pate and Clell Lee both fought in WW1. Larkin Burnett was a self taught lawyer and defended families in court when the government came in to take their farms away from them. Of course you can't fight the government so the farms were lost and people had to move away. The towns, houses, stores, farms were either dozed down or left to fall back into the earth. I wouldn't recommend it now, but you can walk around in the woods out there and come across old rock foundations and fallen chimneys. You'll get snake bit now. Or covered with ticks. There is a path near the corner at the end of Flint Ridge Road going toward Northtown. The path will lead you to Salts Cave. Its barred and you can't go in now but people do go there. Wait until it gets cold and the snakes are gone.
I hope this makes the people buried out there a little more real to you now. And it used to be a thriving community.
Picturing that area as a cummunity is really amazing!! I hate that the government took things away from the people. I disagree with that to the core!!

I'm jealous that you know that much of your family's history... I wish I knew more of mine...
Cooter

Glasgow, KY

#20 Jul 26, 2009
Talk to the old people in the family. Talk to older people who knew your family. Keep a notebook. Then you can go to the library and court house and also search on the internet. We can all learn from our ancestors. Its interesting. You'll discover skeletons in the closet and things people are ashamed of and don't want to talk about. Just remember you are not responsible for other people or what they do.
Most people would be ashamed and keep quiet about one of our skeletons, but I think its funny. Anyone who would be hurt is long dead now. My great-great aunt used to be a madam at the old Owens Hotel in Horse Cave that they recently tore down. I went and got a brick before they hauled everything off. Supposedly she was very good and made good money. She dressed all in black. I barely remember seeing her when I was very young and she was old and died shortly after. To me this is a funny story. Every family has people that do things sort of against the normal.
Happy hunting.

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