Wise Lawmakers in Albany

Wise Lawmakers in Albany

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SafeSchools

Bedford, MA

#1 Jan 16, 2013
Any step toward control of guns and keeping them from people whom may harm others is a move in the right direction.
nra

New York, NY

#2 Jan 16, 2013
SafeSchools wrote:
Any step toward control of guns and keeping them from people whom may harm others is a move in the right direction.
YEAH RIGHT, TOO BAD THE CRIMINALS AND NUTCASES DONT FOLLOW THE LAWS..HENCE, THE LAW ABIDERS HAVE TO BE PENALIZED FOR THE ACTS OF THE MORONS
I DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE of this, but the city of chicago banned ALL guns five years ago, and guess what? last year chicago had 500 homicides by guns, and 22 so far since the 1st of this year, so only a fool thinks these laws will help..
SafeSchools

Boston, MA

#3 Jan 17, 2013
nra wrote:
<quoted text>
YEAH RIGHT, TOO BAD THE CRIMINALS AND NUTCASES DONT FOLLOW THE LAWS..HENCE, THE LAW ABIDERS HAVE TO BE PENALIZED FOR THE ACTS OF THE MORONS
I DONT KNOW IF YOU ARE AWARE of this, but the city of chicago banned ALL guns five years ago, and guess what? last year chicago had 500 homicides by guns, and 22 so far since the 1st of this year, so only a fool thinks these laws will help..
Just what is a logical and sensible solution then?
natural selection

New York, NY

#4 Jan 17, 2013
NO PLEA DEALS. stiffer penalties for convictions. there is a start. empower the ctizen. if everyone was armed criminals would think twice about commiting a crime. that is a proven fact. you can never defend againt a mentally ill person or terrorist. enacting new laws does nothing only law abiding citizens follow laws not shitbag criminals.
vet

New York, NY

#5 Jan 17, 2013
Welcome to the peoples republic of new york
Side Ling

Hudson, NY

#6 Jan 17, 2013
natural selection wrote:
NO PLEA DEALS. stiffer penalties for convictions. there is a start. empower the ctizen. if everyone was armed criminals would think twice about commiting a crime. that is a proven fact. you can never defend againt a mentally ill person or terrorist. enacting new laws does nothing only law abiding citizens follow laws not shitbag criminals.
I agree with your reasoning, and make the following comments.. this society is breaking down, broken families, kids on drugs ,legal and illegal. behavior problems in schools,parents that have children and then don't take care of them. Kids who are given everything early in life then become bored all the time, looking for some new kick. Schools that pass students no matter what they do academically because no one wants to fail them. This toxic mixture of a society breaking down coupled with guns.. and banning all guns and confiscation is not the answer because only law abiding people will obey new laws not criminals.. The problem is complex, but giving the government the right to disarm all citizens is not the answer, giving the government the power to punish severely criminal behavior with guns is a better way to accomplish it. Bad behaving people with guns are really bad..Law Abiding people with guns are really good.. making the Law abiding ones victims of new laws does nothing to affect the bad behavior of bad people.

Since: Sep 08

Woodbridge, VA

#7 Jan 17, 2013
What about forks, look at how many kids thy effect.
We should demand that thy come out with smaller forks or even a Smart fork to stop kids from over eating, we save all the fat kids. Put a end to child hood fatty is em.

xd
ny guy

New York, NY

#8 Jan 17, 2013
SafeSchools wrote:
<quoted text>Just what is a logical and sensible solution then?
logical solution? read up on how violence on television /movies/ and xbox games affects children... esspecially children with mental issues... ban x box videos games that are nothing but shooting people in the entire games.. and as far as television... parents are responsible to not let young children watch violence packed shows... 20 and thirty years ago, mass shootings were rare.. now, lately 20 something year olds are going crazy with guns... todays parents need to raise their children properly, many are plopping the poor kid in front of the tv so they can do their own thing.. then, the kid grows up watching extreme violence on tv and becomes desensitized to death and gore...
Real Reality

Raymond, NH

#9 Jan 17, 2013
SafeSchools wrote:
Any step toward control of guns and keeping them from people whom may harm others is a move in the right direction.
You know what else causes a lot of violence and even death... words! When people say the wrong thing to the wrong person bad things can and do happen. Maybe we should put restrictions and limitations on what people can say???? Yes... screw the 1st Amendment.... let's keep NYers safe!!

What an absolute joke!
NRA FOREVER

Hudson, NY

#10 Jan 17, 2013
From my cold, dead hands you liberal pieces of crap.
painful truth

New Britain, CT

#11 Jan 18, 2013
“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
&#8213; Adolf Hitler

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painful truth

New Britain, CT

#12 Jan 18, 2013
All of you who support more gun restrictions under the misguided belief that "it's better than doing nothing" or "If we save just one life, it's worth it!"

Chew on this

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cossell

New York, NY

#13 Jan 18, 2013
ny guy wrote:
<quoted text>
logical solution? read up on how violence on television /movies/ and xbox games affects children... esspecially children with mental issues... ban x box videos games that are nothing but shooting people in the entire games.. and as far as television... parents are responsible to not let young children watch violence packed shows... 20 and thirty years ago, mass shootings were rare.. now, lately 20 something year olds are going crazy with guns... todays parents need to raise their children properly, many are plopping the poor kid in front of the tv so they can do their own thing.. then, the kid grows up watching extreme violence on tv and becomes desensitized to death and gore...
are you trying to take away my 1st amendment right to play any game or watch any show i want. fricking hypocrite-choose what part of the constitution is important to you and ignore the rest. ypu say people who watch those shows and then get get their hands on auto guns kill people. you want to limit my constitutional rights by getting rid of the shows. why can't we just get rid of the guns? oh noooooooooo. I need my gun to enforce the law, just like a certain group of brown shirts did in the past. are you so clueless about what the nra really wants?
cossell

New York, NY

#14 Jan 18, 2013
NRA FOREVER wrote:
From my cold, dead hands you liberal pieces of crap.
only from my cold dead hands will you pry my remote and game controller you right wing, want to force me to watch only tv shows you approve of, national socialist. hypocrite.
cossell

New York, NY

#15 Jan 18, 2013
painful truth wrote:
“The receptivity of the masses is very limited, their intelligence is small, but their power of forgetting is enormous. In consequence of these facts, all effective propaganda must be limited to a very few points and must harp on these in slogans until the last member of the public understands what you want him to understand by your slogan.”
&#8213; Adolf Hitler
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how apt you quote hitler-he implemented a lot of things the nra and some of the posters here want. blame the mentally ill, control the media, arm an unthinking brain dead group of thugs.
ny guy

New York, NY

#16 Jan 18, 2013
cossell wrote:
<quoted text>are you trying to take away my 1st amendment right to play any game or watch any show i want. fricking hypocrite-choose what part of the constitution is important to you and ignore the rest. ypu say people who watch those shows and then get get their hands on auto guns kill people. you want to limit my constitutional rights by getting rid of the shows. why can't we just get rid of the guns? oh noooooooooo. I need my gun to enforce the law, just like a certain group of brown shirts did in the past. are you so clueless about what the nra really wants?
no, im saying that young developing minds of children pick up what they see on television and video games... this is the problem... some parents didnt bring up their kids properley by letting them witness violence at a young age, some of the kids become desensitized to blood and gore...by the time the average person reaches 18, they have witnessed 18,000 murders on television or movies.. the REAL problem is many of todays young people have no respect for other people...the past 3 or 4 mass shootings were done by 20 something year olds, think about it if you can.. forget it, this is over your head...
cossell

New York, NY

#17 Jan 18, 2013
no proof of your theories-but they fit the nra spiel: blame it on the video games and tv, especially if they're played or watched by crazy people. by your theory, if the only thing on tv was "touched by an angel" we'd all be perfect little angels. do you really believe that? you refuse to place blame where it belongs-speaking of over your head. maybe your head's been twisted watching all those shoot 'em up westerns that make people think you ain't a many without your m16. have another sip of nra kool-aid and enjoy their propaganda.
Real Reality

Needham, MA

#18 Jan 18, 2013
SafeSchools wrote:
Any step toward control of guns and keeping them from people whom may harm others is a move in the right direction.
Would you be in favor of warrantless and suspicionless searches of your or any other persons car, dwelling, or physical being to ensure you are not in possession of banned weapons??? Wouldn't that help ensure those who may harm others with guns won't have the chance???

Where do you draw the line??????????
Real Reality

Needham, MA

#19 Jan 18, 2013
cossell wrote:
no proof of your theories-but they fit the nra spiel: blame it on the video games and tv, especially if they're played or watched by crazy people. by your theory, if the only thing on tv was "touched by an angel" we'd all be perfect little angels. do you really believe that? you refuse to place blame where it belongs-speaking of over your head. maybe your head's been twisted watching all those shoot 'em up westerns that make people think you ain't a many without your m16. have another sip of nra kool-aid and enjoy their propaganda.
Are you serious??? I don't blame tv and video games 100%, but it has been proven many times that they do influence people. There was a study conducted a few years ago in regards to the game Grand Theft Auto and it showed a drastic increase of violent carjackings after the release of that game. Some people have a serious issue deciphering reality from tv.

Also where does the blame belong?? On the gun?? On the gun maker?? Or on the person who felt the need to use it to inflict terror and harm??

Please explain how any gun ban is going to prevent another school shooting or even lessen the blow of a school shooting. Please explain why FBI stats show that crime (especially violent crime) went down after the gun ban was lifted in 2004. These aren't NRA stats, these are your governments stats. You talk about drinking kool aid... it looks like you are drinking straight from Obama and Cuomo's zipper!

Trust me I am far from being a NRA fan and I hang up on them whenever they call, but I do not blame an inanimate object for the deed of an evil person.

Gun bans have been proven by virtually every study to do nothing but aid in increasing crime... in a couple of years I will be back on here to say "told ya so".
Real Reality

Needham, MA

#20 Jan 18, 2013
Now that I am off my soap box I am going to go clean my Bushmaster .223 and fondle myself while watching Roadhouse... that's what all of us pro-gun guys do right Cossell???
Do you even know what AK or AR stands for?? Do you know the difference between an AR15 and a mini 14??? Do you the difference between a M4 and an AR15?? Do you know what makes an "assault" weapon an "assualt" weapon?? How about a Remington Model 7400, you think that should be illegal?? Maybe a Ruger Scout??? You mention an M16... do you know the caliber of bullet that shoots??? Do you know the civilian equivilent???
My suggestion... know both sides of the debate before actually entering the debate. There is a reason there are going to be MAJOR ratifications done to this bill... some that are already taking place as we "type".

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