Safety in Malone's Schools

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Not From This Side

New York, NY

#1 Dec 15, 2012
What are people willing to do to make Malone's schools safer and protect against violence in Malone's schools?
Pawn During

Catskill, NY

#2 Dec 15, 2012
Not From This Side wrote:
What are people willing to do to make Malone's schools safer and protect against violence in Malone's schools?
Is there violence in Malone's schools?
Not From This Side

New York, NY

#3 Dec 15, 2012
Pawn During wrote:
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Is there violence in Malone's schools?
There is a certain level of "violence" in all types of organizations.

The elementary school in New London was just your normal rural school but yesterday changed it forever.

There are often people who come into a school that are very angry. In our area almost everyone has access to guns of one sort or another.
ny guy

New York, NY

#4 Dec 16, 2012
Not From This Side wrote:
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There is a certain level of "violence" in all types of organizations.
The elementary school in New London was just your normal rural school but yesterday changed it forever.
There are often people who come into a school that are very angry. In our area almost everyone has access to guns of one sort or another.
since society has changed drastically for the worst in recent years, sadly, to prevent such horrendous acts of violence such as the shooting spree in connecticut and elsewhere, the only solution may be to have undercover armed guards or perhaps a few trained and armed teachers in schools. a teacher could easily have a concealed handgun and no one would know. the same goes for shopping malls and movie theaters.. just like they have undercover air marshalls on air planes..
HCW8

Quincy, MA

#5 Dec 16, 2012
Those who favored the indiviual right to bear arms
Washington
Jefferson
Madison
The rest of our founding fathers because they know it prevents government tyranny

Those who opposed the individual right to bear arms
Hitler
Lenin
Stalin
Castro
Mao
Most current Democrats
Go Then

Schenectady, NY

#7 Dec 17, 2012
Malonian-the real one wrote:
Our little Troll friend from CA forgot to put in the first group the slimy troll who shot all those kids.
If you just move yourself from Malone.. to say, some totalitarian society like Russia where citizens can't have guns.. Open your mouth and see who is worse,, a sick kid with a gun or the entire government who have guns.. governments from Hitler to Stalin and more have killed millions of innocents, far more than insane kids with guns. Governments with guns, and citizens without,, guess who wins.
Flip Simonsen

Malone, NY

#8 Dec 17, 2012
I believe -- from my research -- that the way to make the school safe is to hire super heroes. I've seen them in action recently over the past many years. For example, recently, I saw that Spiderman beat the living daylights out of a lizard/man in a school.

If, for example, we could pay Spiderman, or if the tax burden is too great, one of the DC Comic heros like Rubber Man or Wonder Woman, ordinary mortals would not be interested in fooling with our schools. I am very confident that this will work.

Thank you for respecting my thoughts.

Since: Sep 09

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#9 Dec 17, 2012
Flip Simonsen wrote:
I believe -- from my research -- that the way to make the school safe is to hire super heroes. I've seen them in action recently over the past many years. For example, recently, I saw that Spiderman beat the living daylights out of a lizard/man in a school.
If, for example, we could pay Spiderman, or if the tax burden is too great, one of the DC Comic heros like Rubber Man or Wonder Woman, ordinary mortals would not be interested in fooling with our schools. I am very confident that this will work.
Thank you for respecting my thoughts.
From the series of replies you have posted, you have given us a view into the sober mind of Xdrunk. It's not much better than the inebriated one.
ummmmmm

New York, NY

#10 Dec 17, 2012
Flip Simonsen wrote:
I believe -- from my research -- that the way to make the school safe is to hire super heroes. I've seen them in action recently over the past many years. For example, recently, I saw that Spiderman beat the living daylights out of a lizard/man in a school.
If, for example, we could pay Spiderman, or if the tax burden is too great, one of the DC Comic heros like Rubber Man or Wonder Woman, ordinary mortals would not be interested in fooling with our schools. I am very confident that this will work.
Thank you for respecting my thoughts.
And here I thought the DC Comic heroes were Boehner, Pelosi, Cantor, McConnell, Reid, and Scalia. And who can forget the lovable Bush, Chaney, Rumsfeld, and Wolfowicz?
ummmmmm

New York, NY

#11 Dec 17, 2012
Now, can we return to topic. All doors but the outer doors of the front entrance should be shut and locked at all times. Possibly some kind of metal detectors at those doors. And I'm not sure I would oppose having one very highly trained and thoroughly vetted staff member in each school allowed to possess a handgun, though I'm not sure I really want to go down that road.

But, there's probably not much you really can do. You can block the doors, but what about the windows?

Controlling assault weapons is the right place to start, but the NRA will never allow that.

carydaway

New York, NY

#12 Dec 17, 2012
ummmmmm wrote:
Now, can we return to topic. All doors but the outer doors of the front entrance should be shut and locked at all times. Possibly some kind of metal detectors at those doors. And I'm not sure I would oppose having one very highly trained and thoroughly vetted staff member in each school allowed to possess a handgun, though I'm not sure I really want to go down that road.

But, there's probably not much you really can do. You can block the doors, but what about the windows?

Controlling assault weapons is the right place to start, but the NRA will never allow that.
All doors minus the front are locked. As for windows, they are what they are. And lets be honest if a person wants in, they are getting in.

As for your gun comment, just stop.

Walbridge contacted everyone today stating that MCSD and the police are working on a plan.
Not From This Side

New York, NY

#13 Dec 17, 2012
Our schools are glass houses. Look around at each school, usually entrances (locked or unlocked) are surrounded by glass panels.

Most of our schools were designed to allow in a maximimum amount of sunlight - to create a positive atmosphere for students. It would take a great deal to retrofit all of these buildings.

Could that same money be used to address mental health issues of students and staff and/or pay for a resource officer in each building?
ummmmmm

New York, NY

#14 Dec 17, 2012
I know the doors are supposed to be locked, except for the front. But I also know of a situation on Friday (since reported) of an open door at one of the schools.

I agree-windows are what they are and why they are what they are.

I hesitated to post my gun comment, but felt compelled to do so, especially since the president seems to think he needs lots of time to figure out how to do it (those 20 kids and 6 adults didn't have any time to figure out how to live, and that's how much time I give the Pres and the Congress to FIX IT! But, yes, I know, there are other forums for gun discussions.)

I like NFTS suggestion, but would it be possible to have a trained, vetted, and armed teacher who's paid extra money? If not, I'll pay the extra money for resource officers. I know of some retired cops who would be great resource officers.

What I'm wondering is why, this many years after Columbine, we don't already have a plan.
Flip Simonsen

Malone, NY

#15 Dec 18, 2012
I believe that we should allow all the teachers to own handguns just in case they have to shoot intruders. Oh wait, didn't the kid who murdered the children in Connecticut get the gun from his mother. Wait...

Ok. I've got it. I believe that we should allow all of the teachers AND students have loaded handguns at school. In addition, we should build schools with NO windows, LEAD doors, and allow no one in or out of the school at all, even teachers and students, we should do strip searchers and body cavity searches of everyone we don't let into the school and we should post one army, navy, air force and marine with each child. Then, we should all continually worry and fret and get our kids all jacked up by continually worrying and fretting about it. We should then ask everyone to guarantee that everyone at every time will be safe.

Then we should all go home and allow our children to play shoot them up video games, and watch shoot em up tv shows and movies, let our kids wander the streets of Malone without parental guidance and ask the President and Congress to make people stop being violent.
ummmmmm

New York, NY

#16 Dec 18, 2012
Flip, this topic touches parts of our hearts and souls that many of didn't know existed, and it appears you don't possess. There is no room for your rantings and and horribly and inhumanely bad humor in it. If you can't contribute with dignity, sympathy, and respect to the 20 children, the adults, and the many, many people who loved them and lost them, then take your contribution elsewhere. If you think this a subject that's open to your rantings, you area a very, very poor excuse for a human being. There is too much tragedy in this story and there is no tolerance for your crap. Take your contributions elsewhere, this story is sacred ground to those of us with a soul and heart.
Flip Simonsen

New York, NY

#17 Dec 18, 2012
I, too, will pay all the money it takes to make the world risk free. The point of the post was lost on you so you felt I was insulting the memory of those poor children. That was unkind. The part you do not seem to understand is that it is not a problem you can throw money at. Life cannot be made risk free by surrounding everyone with cops and removing windows and nailing shut doors. Media we give our kids are violent. Divorce and poverty cause violence too,
ummmmmmm

New York, NY

#18 Dec 18, 2012
No Flip, the point was not lost on me. You were being flippant about and trying to inject satire and humor into a subject for which there is no flippancy, humor, or satire. You were trying to be Mencken, Twain, Swift, or Kurtzman/Gaines and failed miserably and painfully. They would not see nor would they try to inject humor or satire into a subject as gut-wrenching as this one. Even SNL saw the tragedy and for the first time ever journeyed from its normal humorous opening by having a children's choir open the show with a heart rending a cappella version of "Silent Night" (Sleep in heavenly peace....)

If you want to express your opinion with dignity and intelligence, as you almost did in Post 17, I respect that. If you want to be a cruel, heartless excuse for a human being, take your show on the road. Those children, adults, and their loved ones deserve better-even from those of us who hide behind a keyboard.

My musings have once again taken us off topic. But, let me close by saying I do agree with you that systemic and cultural changes must be made or any legal or financial solutions are doomed to failure. The fact is, however, those solutions can be implemented much faster than the changes can occur, and they will yield some beneficial results while together we work on the things that truly need change. Will the solutions give a false sense of security and lead to complacency? Possibly, but I'm willing to take that risk since to do nothing is to invite another tragedy. And I'm not will to risk that.
NYGiants

New York, NY

#19 Dec 18, 2012
"Even SNL saw the tragedy and for the first time ever journeyed from its normal humorous opening"

That was FAR from the first time SNL has paid tribute after a tragedy. Get your facts straight, you fool.

Since: Sep 08

Woodbridge, VA

#20 Dec 19, 2012
That school were all the little kids wear killed, and some teacher.
I have ask to have it tore down as soon as the cops are done with it. I say this. I would not let my little ones back in that school becouse their is no way we could ever make the little kids feel safe.
It needs to come down and a new safe school built for them.
Would you want your little one to go back in to that school?

xd
ummmmmmm

New York, NY

#21 Dec 19, 2012
NYGiants wrote:
"Even SNL saw the tragedy and for the first time ever journeyed from its normal humorous opening"
That was FAR from the first time SNL has paid tribute after a tragedy. Get your facts straight, you fool.
Allow me to clarify-it was the first time SNL expressed no humor at all in its opening monologue.

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