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pmp727

Poughkeepsie, NY

#1 Feb 22, 2009
Does anyone on the school board deserve to keep their job?

It is very clear, with the defeat of the child warehouse/ fuel depot in December that the current school board is out of touch with the taxpayers, and that the same taxpayers are on to their wiley ways.

In addition, Malone Central is STILL NOT the district of choice in the area, as it once was.

Is there any reason that any of these people should keep their jobs?
North Country

Tully, NY

#2 Feb 22, 2009
First of all, the board members are not employed by the school district in any manner. They receive no compensation - not even health insurance or a small stipend - so being on the board is not their job.

These people misjudged the community and its support for improved facilities. We voted against it and it went down - hard. By the way, this is the only pseodo-governmental agency on which you and I get to vote on the budget. We don't like it - we vote it down.

The proposal for repairs will be up for a vote as well as the entire budget for the year.(Don't you wish you could vote on the county, town and village budgets?)

So they don't get paid. Any spending issues need to be voted on by the taxpayers. How much more power could we (the voters) want?

It sounds like from your post that you may have a specific situation you want addressed. Yes - No?

In the meantime, keep this in mind. The world and Malone have changed. Parents do not tell or teach their kids to behave in an appropriate manner and many families do not value education 'cause they never needed any schoolin' If people are connected to social services, they move to Malone to be close to the courthouse. If you look at the list of people who are in the adult GED program and who list their address as Malone you would be astounded to see that most of them never grew up in Malone or went to Malone schools. They just moved here to be close to the services they access.

I don't think it is the school board you want to beat on but you could take all that energy and use it to get parents to parent their kids. When you went to school and I went to school, if we screwed up, our fathers (or mothers) took care of it at home even if it was taken care of at school. Know what happens is the parent says "I don't know what to do with him but you are picking on him so I have contacted my lawyer."

If you want to change this community, it starts with the adults. When I look around, I know why some kids have difficulty getting along in school.

So - vote them out if you don't like them for some personal reason. Just be sure the candidate going in cares about kids and education.
CBONE

United States

#3 Feb 23, 2009
We have a good boasrd as it stands now. Lets give them all the respect they deserve, it is a thankless job.
momforyouth

Hudson, NY

#4 Feb 23, 2009
I agree with you 100%. I was a "room mother" for my child's class and the response I rec'd from the parents were nasty. I would call them to bring in an item that cost $1 and they could not afford it! I often was greated on the phone with "ya! or "What do you want" or "who are you" instead of "Hello" I decided then to just bring in everything the teacher needed because it caused me less stress. I can not believe how these children are living.

I am not sure a new school or better facilities will help these children but I do know that they will help my child. I am so sick of my children having to take a back seat to the children who need special help. Do not get me wrong I want them to get the best education they can get but not at the cost of my own children's education. We no longer have advanced classes (at the elementary level) actually they promote my child to "tutor" these special needs children (saying it is a privledgeto be chosen) instead of having an early morning program to promote my childs advance. My child has to be at school by 7-7:15 to tutor.

I believe as a school district we need to work just as hard to advance our "smart" students as we do to keep our other students in the loop. I can only wish that we can get grants or other monies to promote our children's future. I really could care less if we have a new school; I can only hope that we can provide a proper education for all students and our best and brightest are now the one that are being left behind!
pmp727

Poughkeepsie, NY

#5 Feb 24, 2009
CBONE wrote:
We have a good boasrd as it stands now. Lets give them all the respect they deserve, it is a thankless job.
They are working to enrich themselves and their friends. That is obvious. And NOBODY can say they have the best interests of the children at heart, when they've advocated tearing the youngest children in the district away from their homes and neighborhoods, and herding them into a massive, institutional, super school, where the youngest and most vulnerable among us could be subjected to a variety of bad situations and perhaps even neglect that would be far less likely to occur in a smaller school.

Instead of trying to make fuel supply easier and more profitable (not to mention the enrichment involved in the land deals and property transfers), how about plans to make the district energy self- suficient? Where are the winf turbines that could be sited at every school? Why are we not heating and cooling with geo- thermal systems, rather than keeping the fuel brokers well fed? Why are we not converting busses to run on biodiesel, or better yet, electricity?

How about a plan that saves money and DOESN'T cut services or oversight, while maintaining the status quo on the gravy train?

The school board members might not draw a salary but man are they ever doing a job on us. And if anyone thinks these people aren't compensated, in one way or another, for the decisions they make, think again. If all were equal and above board they would not be making such terrible decisions over and over again. It's time to shake the board up and get someone in there who gives a damn about education and the kids.
CBONE

United States

#6 Feb 24, 2009
Boy I hope when you grow up you will be able to put that sick brain of yours to some good. Find something constructive to do, you just aren't cutting it here.
momforyouth

Hudson, NY

#7 Feb 24, 2009
Wow. You are very dramatic. You act like they wanted to take these children and ship them oversees for the year. Many school districts have K-12 on the same campus. You know that the school board is voted on and anyone can run so maybe next time you should. I do not have as much a problem with the board as i do the useless administration. We could cut a lot of fat if we had more productive principles and administrators. I can not speak for the highschool (my children have yet to attend that school) but the rest of the schools have huge problems. I know I am off topic but....
pmp727

Poughkeepsie, NY

#8 Feb 25, 2009
momforyouth wrote:
Wow. You are very dramatic. You act like they wanted to take these children and ship them oversees for the year. Many school districts have K-12 on the same campus. You know that the school board is voted on and anyone can run so maybe next time you should. I do not have as much a problem with the board as i do the useless administration. We could cut a lot of fat if we had more productive principles and administrators. I can not speak for the highschool (my children have yet to attend that school) but the rest of the schools have huge problems. I know I am off topic but....
Not every school district was once one of the best in the state, and now, second of third rate in its own neighborhood. They are CHILDREN, not cattle. The education and rearing of them needs to be the priority, obviously from some of the postings on this site it hasn't been a priority for years. And thanks for responding to a point I raised, rather than the slam bashing that goes on in here routinely.
pmp727

Poughkeepsie, NY

#9 Feb 25, 2009
And we absolutely could cut a lot of fat without jeopardizing eduction. The administration serves by contract BUT they are placed at the recommendation of the school board. There is no incentive now to cut the fat because the current school board is overly invested in feeding themselves and their friends on that fat. Can't mess with that, now!
pmp727

Poughkeepsie, NY

#10 Feb 26, 2009
I heard the taxpayers took a million dollar hit on that shady land deal they tried to shove down our throats last fall... I don't know what anyone else thinks, but the district could sure use that money in other ways, and as a taxpayer in the district I would sure like to NOT make that up in my taxes.

I don't know about the Washington Post but I think the US Justice Department might want to investigate this. I think I can draw their attention to this... and if it turns out that there was collusion to defraud the taxpayers that paves the way for a class action lawsuit.

It just kills me that these greedy individuals thought it would be perfectly fine to sentence the children of Malone to a childhood of huffing diesel fumes on the playground. They ALL need to go, every one of them.
momforyouth

Albany, NY

#11 Feb 26, 2009
pmp - The whole sniffing deisel fumes on the playground is a bit of a stretch. You do seem to have a flair for sensationalism. I will say I get a kick out of your comments. Anyways, I am not sure what the solution is either but I do know it is very dangerous at Flanders and St. Joes also. Often the sidewalks are not properly clared and children are forced to walk on Main Street to get to the school. I have done this several times with my own children. I am absolutely shocked that no one has been hit. The walkers also must cross in front of the buses to get to the door in the morning. People are always in such a rush that they do not let cars out or even pay attention to parents and children trying to get to school. All I want is a safe environment that best promotes my childs education and I do not see that our school district provides that. As far as the class action lawsuit, I wish you the best of luck with that (I am serious). You may have a 20 year fight on your hands. Hell I can not even get any assistance with a major bullying situation I am dealing with. No one wants to stand up to the school district!
Roach

Poughkeepsie, NY

#12 Feb 26, 2009
See I don't think it IS a stretch... think about lines of busses being fueled constantly, all day long...

The whole thing is insane and reeks of child exploitation. One of them had the stones to come in here in a weepy child's voice, begging to be institutionalized. Talk about drama!

I agree that it's not the best situation for kids to cross in front of traffic. We do have crosing guards posted, to hopefully help with some of that.

It just kills me to see what this board is doing, apparently with little or no regard for anyone but themselves. I WILL be making the contact.

Sorry about the bully, that has to be tough. My friends who are educators point to practically a day in the 1980s when EVERYTHING changed... suddenly when Little Johny had an issue, instead of taking him to task on it the parents began arguing with teachers and principles. That's when this country started going to hell in a handbasket.

With a little foresight and the proper motivation, with these school properties we could be actually teaching our children something concrete, while saving the community a bundle. We MUST begin using sustainable energy in these schools, otherwise we are teaching children to waste and to serve oil companies. You might think I'm dramatic but hey, the soup we're in as a culture is going to take some dramatic effort to resolve.

I sure wouldn't expect sustainable energy systems overnight, but yikes the district can plan ahead for a change, and beginning a conversion process would serve as an education for us all in the years to come.

Not to mention that a wind turbine at each of those schools could end up powering half the town. This is truly a no- brainer, guess the board hasn't figured out how to make a bundle on all that, yet.
momforyouth

Ballston Spa, NY

#13 Feb 26, 2009
You have some valid points but we (as a district) are so behind that I believe we would have a hard time getting the public to pass a plan that included alternative energy sources. Who knows; I just want my child to have the best education and I do not see that happening.
It is so funny that you say "to hell in a handbasket" because my 11 year old just said that this morning regarding Flanders (ofcourse he said "Heck"). LOL!! Yes the whole Bully thing is really causing havok! We have a Zero tolerance policy but they refuse to follow through with that and the administration just keeps trying to cover each others butts. Little do they know that I am talking to multiple administrators everyday and they are making themselves look so STUPID!! Obviously they do not communicate with each other. I can not wait to have my meeting with all them present and watch them stumble over all the info I have that contradictes what they keep saying! I am sure it will be a circus!
As far as the crossing guards - He only crosses people in one spot in front of the school I am talking about walkers who are coming from the Congregational church to school. They have been forced (several times) to walk in Main Street because it was impossible to use the sidewalk. Oh well - Who knows!
Depot Rat

United States

#14 Feb 27, 2009
What do you really have problems with? I believe you are causing more problems as you can't face the reality that maybe your child is not perfect. Deciplin is a necessity of life.
Depot Rat

United States

#15 Mar 2, 2009
Another problem taken care of.
momforyouth

Albany, NY

#16 Mar 3, 2009
Depot Rat wrote:
What do you really have problems with? I believe you are causing more problems as you can't face the reality that maybe your child is not perfect. Deciplin is a necessity of life.
Wow I am talking about a bully not a discipline problem. The child has threatened many children and even staff members and the school and administration only wants to put a bandaid on the problem.

I am not causing any problems I am asking the school and the Board to do their JOB! I also never said my child was perfect. I have checked on anything he has said to me and all of the staff supports the abuse he is receiving.

Depot Rat maybe you should read all the posts before you decide to comment and guess what the problem is not solved!!!
Depot Rat

United States

#17 Mar 3, 2009
Sorry, think you have an ax to grind and will not score here.

Since: Oct 08

United States

#18 Mar 3, 2009
rat needs to go back to school for reading comprehension
Depot Rat

United States

#19 Mar 3, 2009
nickupnorth wrote:
rat needs to go back to school for reading comprehension
Don't worry about the old Rat, understand quite well and sometime even between the lines.
grid

United States

#20 Mar 3, 2009
Gee, it sounds like depot rat is related to a school official.
That might work against him when he runs for another political office. especially with an attitude like that.

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