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Police: Man gave beer to teens charged in Shenandoah slaying

There are 29 comments on the The Morning Call story from Aug 1, 2008, titled Police: Man gave beer to teens charged in Shenandoah slaying. In it, The Morning Call reports that:

Police have charged a 23-year-old man with supplying alcohol to a teen who was among those arrested in the beating death of an illegal immigrant in Schuylkill County .

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Yes

Harrisburg, PA

#1 Aug 1, 2008
If Ramirez was here legally, maybe none of this would have happened.
JoeB

San Diego, CA

#2 Aug 1, 2008
It is obvious that alcohol and even drugs impair judgement and actions, but in this case there is significant proof and history of hate in that community. When you harbor hate for someone and don't want them around, impairment of judgement by alcohol is absolutely no excuse for a hate crime and murder.

To my great expectation, this story has finally caught national attention and has outraged many. It brings me great joy that the FBI and Justice Department have stepped in and I sincerely look forward to prosecution and punishment to the extent of the law. These monsters are going away for a very, very long time and that town and corner of the world of bigotry will live in shame.
Hmmm

Allentown, PA

#3 Aug 1, 2008
Uhm, you obviously haven't been reading the articles. The press is fixating the publics opinion on his immigration status rather than what the suspects were yelling as they beat him to death- which had to do with his race. If he were a naturalized citizen what would you have to complain about? The fact is that were hurling as much racial slurs as they were fists and feet. Anyone who wasn't white that night would have been a target. They didn't ask "Are you legal?" Before they beat him. They, in fact, told him to go back to his own country.
Yes wrote:
If Ramirez was here legally, maybe none of this would have happened.
JoeB

San Diego, CA

#4 Aug 1, 2008
And for those who absurdly argue political and legal status of the immigrant, get a life and start thinking realistically. Legal status was the last thing on the minds of those monsters as they beat his body and kicked him on the head while he was outnumbered and convulsing on the ground. You make many people and myself sick and gag at your ignorance. Seriously, there is something wrong with you.

“Non illigitamus carborundum ”

Since: Apr 07

One Particular Harbor

#6 Aug 1, 2008
Yes wrote:
If Ramirez was here legally, maybe none of this would have happened.
or if those kids weren't racist idiots, it wouldn't have happenned either.
Oh Well

New York, NY

#7 Aug 1, 2008
Is that all people have to do up there in that small town? Drink themselves to a stupor and go and kill people?

“You call THIS civilization??”

Since: Mar 07

Orefield, PA

#8 Aug 1, 2008
Those kids behaved like animals -- racist animals. And the man that gave them alcohol that caused them to lose some of their inhibitions that increased the chance of trouble should be charged as an accessory to murder/manslaughter. You would think after all the press of teens doing dumb things when drunk the man would have the sense not to give alcohol to underage kids.
OMG

United States

#9 Aug 1, 2008
Yes wrote:
If Ramirez was here legally, maybe none of this would have happened.
True, these murderers would have got someone else one day instead. Maybe even a legal citizen - murder is murder who ever it is!
I know many people who like to have a drink, but don't end up needing to murder someone!
out there

AOL

#10 Aug 1, 2008
<<<Is that all people have to do up there in that small town? Drink themselves to a stupor and go and kill people?>>>

Yes that is what they do. If outside authorities hadn't gotten involve in this, these criminals would have had a parade in their honor and streets named after them. They clearly fit the description of Walt Whitman's words of "living quit desperate lives", It is the end of the road for souls with no future. They wear their desperation like a badge of honor where scoring the wining touchdown on Friday night football game can be you pass from a ghetto where angst is a virtue.
Kima

Gwynn Oak, MD

#11 Aug 1, 2008
That's why they call Shenandoah "ZooLoo-Land". They are animals and they fight. It's been like that for decades!!!

“You call THIS civilization??”

Since: Mar 07

Orefield, PA

#12 Aug 1, 2008
I had a friend that lived in "Shenandoe." I was only there once. It was there that I saw my one and only fist fight between two women on the sidewalk of the main street. Class act.
No Name

AOL

#13 Aug 1, 2008
Yes wrote:
If Ramirez was here legally, maybe none of this would have happened.
Agree with you, If he stayed in his own counrty, this would of never happened!!!!!
joe poli

AOL

#14 Aug 1, 2008
Kim said: "That's why they call Shenandoah "ZooLoo-Land". They are animals and they fight. It's been like that for decades!!!"

Kim, you are correct. When I was growing up there in the 1950s you had to be careful walking the streets. Otherwise, older teenage boys would grab you and beat up on you. There were parts of town that you avoided, especially the area on South Main Street where the pool halls were located.

Shenandoah is the only town in the area that has this extreme attitude toward beating up people. Each generation seems to think they have a reputation to uphold. There were, and still are, a lot of gentle people in the town.

We moved to another town when I was 14; I left the area when I was 17 and only went back to visit my parents and my aunts.

I was in town yesterday. There are many closed businesses, burned out and abandoned buildings and many single mothers. The town has two elements: a small group of troublemakers, some of whom are Mexicans and a large group of elderly who are on SSI. Also, there are younger people, white and Mexican, who work hard to feed their families. When I was growing up there, most of us were poor; we were just waiting to grow up so we could move out!

I have very few good memories, outside of my family, from growing up in ZOOO LOO Land
Mister462

Philadelphia, PA

#15 Aug 1, 2008
Everyone on here expects Shenandoah residents not to lash out and defend what happened... Why wouldn't we? Everyone seems to think the entire town is racist because of the actions of 3 high school kids... In my opinion, before you're allowed to comment on ANYTHING online, you should have to prove you're not a blithering idiot!

Grow up everyone!
ITS NOT THAT SIMPLE

Breinigsville, PA

#16 Aug 1, 2008
Oh Well wrote:
Is that all people have to do up there in that small town? Drink themselves to a stupor and go and kill people?
Yes
george orwell

Stroudsburg, PA

#17 Aug 1, 2008
Oh Well wrote:
Is that all people have to do up there in that small town? Drink themselves to a stupor and go and kill people?
yes, and in mexico, parts of nyc, most of russia,england, you name it.

the wild west was nothing but drunken idiots.

“Non illigitamus carborundum ”

Since: Apr 07

One Particular Harbor

#18 Aug 1, 2008
No Name wrote:
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Agree with you, If he stayed in his own counrty, this would of never happened!!!!!
And what country did you come from? IDIOT
Latin Flavor

New York, NY

#19 Aug 1, 2008
It's doesn't matter wheather he was illegal here from Mexico.
it's still doesn't give these teens the right to go around beating and killing this man he was a person no matter what color of his skin.
george orwell

Stroudsburg, PA

#20 Aug 1, 2008
Latin Flavor wrote:
It's doesn't matter wheather he was illegal here from Mexico.
it's still doesn't give these teens the right to go around beating and killing this man he was a person no matter what color of his skin.
it still doesn't give latino-african american teens the right to go around beating and killing white people.

1000 whites get killed by blacks/latinos, to every latino/black getting killed by some white every year????
Claire

Allentown, PA

#21 Aug 1, 2008
That's the difference. When my ancestors came here in the early 1900's, they came here to WORK. Not to deal drugs, steal, be in gangs, breed anchor babies, or get on welfare. THEY WORKED. Something the current wave of immigrants and implants should try.
Jim Chunk wrote:
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And what country did you come from? IDIOT

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