Shooting at Kroger Parking Lot...?

Shooting at Kroger Parking Lot...?

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from Waldo AR

United States

#1 Sep 19, 2008
Shots fired...Kroger parking lot, big group of kids...about 10:30PM September 19, 2008. What happened????! We were going to Subway to get a late supper....not going there after dark anymore! Good grief!
from Waldo AR

United States

#2 Sep 19, 2008
This was at the Magnolia, AR Kroger parking lot...any other people know what happened?
Jerry

Greenwood, MS

#3 Sep 20, 2008
Confirmed one 17 year old boy from Magnolia was shot by a 17 or 18 year old boy from Waldo. About 6 shots were fired. Some reports are that two people were shot, but I'm not sure. I also heard that the guy who was confirmed shot puled the weapon first. I heard that this has been ongoing for quite some time now and that this was the result of some type of gang violence.

About 3 fights popped up around the city after the shooting.
from Waldo AR

United States

#4 Sep 20, 2008
wow...when we pulled into the Kroger lot, there were a TON of kids there, and there was already a cop in the middle of the lot with his blue lights flashing. We heard about 7 shots, I think my husband said he counted. As soon as the shots were fired, the kids in cars scattered like cockroaches, and within a minute, there were more cop cars and blue lights. Needless to say, we skipped out on our Subway order...not really hungry after that, just wanted to get the hell home!

Thanks for the update...guess I'll wait to see if the local paper says anything else about it this week.
Jerry

Greenwood, MS

#5 Sep 20, 2008
Word is that the young man was on life support for a while and did not make it. Sunday News will be out in a couple of hours. I'll try to update
from Waldo AR

United States

#6 Sep 21, 2008
I was surprised, but there was nothing in the El Dorado Sunday edition about it...maybe in the Banner sometime this week. It's hard to imagine that the local media won't cover this at some point this week.
a person

United States

#7 Sep 21, 2008
You can give up on local media like region 10 lol they don't care about us up here so don't waste your time with them. sorry. i hate that kids think that shooting a gun solves problems. what happened to the old fashion a** kicking like kids did in the past. hmm My baby brother goes to SAU and i'm an Alumni there. man its getting where you can't trust people or go any where any more. soooo sad
from Waldo AR

United States

#8 Sep 21, 2008
Well here's my problem with the situation:

We drove into the parking lot, like I said, to stop at Subway. We saw all the kids parked near Subway, so we parked further toward the middle of the parking lot, closer to Kroger so we could avoid the 'herd,' so to speak. They were loud even just driving past them, before anything happened. In fact, there was already one cop there, lights flashing, even before the shooting happened.(Yes, the brilliant one who pulled the gun did so while a cop was already present in the parking lot...)

Before my husband had our truck fully into park, the shots were fired. It was hard to believe what we heard, but when we saw the kids in the cars start flying out of the parking lot, we knew it was real.

Then, just as my husband had a clear shot to get us out the parking lot too, more cop cars flooded the parking lot over by where the shooting happened. The cops HAD to literally be parked a block away, waiting for somthing to happen there --- several cop cars were there in under a minute.

Why didn't they try and get the kids out of there before something happened? It was after 10PM...there was no reason in the world for ANY of them to be loitering there.
Former Magnolia Resident

Foreman, AR

#9 Sep 28, 2008
I get the Banner News and somewhat keep up with Magnolia through this newspaper. From reading the newspaper, more and more crime is happening in Magnolia. Growing up in Magnolia, it was a very safe town where everyone felt safe day and nights. Now I read daily about shootings, stabings, places getting robbed etc. What has happened to my hometown? Is it the fault of the citizens or is law enforcement that lax or both? Do I really want to consider retiring back in Magnolia?
from Waldo AR

United States

#10 Sep 29, 2008
Jeez, I wouldn't think about retiring here. We're looking at moving north, toward Fayetteville or Harrison, as soon as we possibly can. The Banner barely touches on what all that happenes around here, probably so they don't insight more problems.

And I think it's really a problem with the citizens, rather than the law enforcement...I'll leave it at that.

A deputy with the sherrif's dept, who was on duty the night of the shooting, said that afterward, there were fights all over the place in Magnolia...they kept getting called out to break up kids fighting. There was also a gun confiscated from some other kid at the fair that same night. I don't know where these kids' parents are, but I'm pretty sure a good deal of the problem stems from lack of parental supervision. I'm not pro-gun control in the slightest --- I think parents need to control their kids.

Either way, I wouldn't recommend moving here, to be honest. Years ago this place may have been decent, but it's really going downhill, regardless of what the Banner News would like readers to believe. The local media tends to sugarcoat things. I've been to huge cities before, from NYC to LA to Moscow and London, and never have I actually heard gun shots out in public like that. Being in the parking lot while it happened was really something, let me tell you. I'll be quite happy when we're no longer tax payers in this county.(Best of luck, though, whatever you decide!)
for sure

United States

#11 Oct 20, 2008
Your so right no parental supervision.
Parents to busy parting theirselves.
kesha

Coronado Ntl Forest, AZ

#12 Oct 24, 2008
Jerry wrote:
Confirmed one 17 year old boy from Magnolia was shot by a 17 or 18 year old boy from Waldo. About 6 shots were fired. Some reports are that two people were shot, but I'm not sure. I also heard that the guy who was confirmed shot puled the weapon first. I heard that this has been ongoing for quite some time now and that this was the result of some type of gang violence.
About 3 fights popped up around the city after the shooting.
it did not have to do with any gang or any sort just stupid some of these guys around here don't know what being in a gang mean it's still safe to go out and about in magnolia after dark
kesha

Coronado Ntl Forest, AZ

#13 Oct 24, 2008
its reall sad to say magnolia is going. down but i still wouldnt want to raise my kids anywhere else but here, rather than in a city where they can get into more trouble, lets not forget about all the kidnapping,meth,sexual activites going on in the school with the teachers,also its still way more violence in the city than little magnolia kids shooting in schools now days forget about parking lots schools is where we should think our kids would be safe at i do think magnolia need a crewfew for teens 17 and under. me myself do not allow my kids out after dark but most parents don't care those are the ones that end up crying at night
Hometown Girl

United States

#14 Oct 30, 2008
I love to tell everyone about my hometown Magnolia AR. I now live in Califorina. One day I was watching the Food Network, the Blossom Festival& Cook Off was staring me in the face. I called all my friends and co-worker to see my hometown. Please, work together to end the violence before it spread. Magnolia is a wonderful quaint town and I hope it remains that way.
ashley

Richland, MS

#15 Mar 10, 2009
magnolia has fallen to shit....i grew up there and it was always not the best since i was in the wrong crowd anyways but it wasnt near this bad, my mom still lives there and all of my friends but when i called backhome the other night i found out one of my best friends growing up is facing life in prison!! all i can say is WTF. the drug use has sky-rocketed and i cant belive that living in shreveport/bossier is safer than in a town a fourth of its size
My thoughts

Saint Albans, WV

#16 Mar 10, 2009
Safer b/c there are less people like your friends???
baju

Little Rock, AR

#17 Mar 23, 2009
trying to make a large group of teens leave a parking lot can result in a riot - especially if there are no "no loitering", "no trespassing" signs posted. Cops end up getting complained on for harassing little darlings whose parents don't want them at their house - the merchants need to "man up" and get your council to pass some laws against this, or you'll end up like North Little Rock and Sherwood and LR - this becomes the norm and not the exception.
from Waldo AR wrote:
Well here's my problem with the situation:
We drove into the parking lot, like I said, to stop at Subway. We saw all the kids parked near Subway, so we parked further toward the middle of the parking lot, closer to Kroger so we could avoid the 'herd,' so to speak. They were loud even just driving past them, before anything happened. In fact, there was already one cop there, lights flashing, even before the shooting happened.(Yes, the brilliant one who pulled the gun did so while a cop was already present in the parking lot...)
Before my husband had our truck fully into park, the shots were fired. It was hard to believe what we heard, but when we saw the kids in the cars start flying out of the parking lot, we knew it was real.
Then, just as my husband had a clear shot to get us out the parking lot too, more cop cars flooded the parking lot over by where the shooting happened. The cops HAD to literally be parked a block away, waiting for somthing to happen there --- several cop cars were there in under a minute.
Why didn't they try and get the kids out of there before something happened? It was after 10PM...there was no reason in the world for ANY of them to be loitering there.
AMB

Lake Saint Louis, MO

#18 Mar 25, 2009
I too used to live in Magnolia. Recently I was down there for a visit. I was blown away at the condition of the town. It was run down and I saw a homeless person on the street. Before I ventured on my trip, I went to the Magnolia Chamber of Commerce website and watched a couple videos displaying what they thought of Magnolia. They described it as a beautiful place to live, work and play. After visiting, I found nothing they showed in the videos. They are very deceptive. I could never imagine growing up that Magnolia would turn out this way. It has gone completely downhill. I fear it might be too late for this town to survive. Its a shame, thats for sure.
James

Greenbrier, AR

#19 Apr 19, 2009
I am glad I came across this forum. I was considering moving to Magnolia.. now I'm thinking about not.*lol*

Anyone know if the Stamps area is any better? I drove through Stamps and Magnolia last week but that really doesn't tell me much about how the area is.
William Hill

Sarepta, LA

#20 Aug 13, 2009
James wrote:
I am glad I came across this forum. I was considering moving to Magnolia.. now I'm thinking about not.*lol*
Anyone know if the Stamps area is any better? I drove through Stamps and Magnolia last week but that really doesn't tell me much about how the area is.
Stamps is like Magnolia, but on a smaller scale. The criminals are running hogwild throughout the whole Ark-La-Tex area. The police, prosecutors, and judges are corrupt beyond anything you can imagine. Most children are growing up without their fathers. There is a succession of men in the house, and the man in bed with "moma" at any given time is probably someone's father, but not the father of the children in that house. When I am out of town on business and come home in the middle of the night, I see gangs of children out on the streets at all hours. The other day I almost hit a child with my pickup on HWY 371, and I wondered if anyone would have even claimed the body. But when something like that happens in Shreveport/Bossier, the parents are on TV blaming everybody but those responsible for keeping children safe--their own TWO parents.

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