PG&E DeSabla cabins may go public

PG&E DeSabla cabins may go public

There are 17 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from Jun 28, 2007, titled PG&E DeSabla cabins may go public. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

Ever wished you could spend the night in a cabin at DeSabla Reservoir? An organization called the Stewardship Council wants you to have the chance. via Chico Enterprise-Record

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DESABLA FISH SLAYOR

Sacramento, CA

#1 Jul 12, 2007
NO WAY1 THE PUBLIC WOULD RUIN THE CABINS. MOST FAMILIES TODAY HAVE CHILDREN WHO DO NOT RESPECT ANYTHING, THEMSEVLES, OTHERS, ADULTS, WILDLIFE, AND OTHER PEOPLE'S PROPERTY. AS IT IS, MANAGEMENT HAS ENOUGH PROBLEMS WITH PG&E FAMILIES KEEPING THE CABINS & BOATS, AS WELL AS THE GROUNDS NICE, AS YOUNG PEOPLE CONSTANTLY VANDALIZE THE PROPERTY. THE PROBLEM COMES FROM THEIR PARENT'S NOT MONITORING THEIR BEHAVIOR. ONE COULD ONLY IMAGINE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN LETTING NON MEMBERS USE THE FACILITY. THE FISH SLAYOR AND OTHER CLOSE FRIENDS AND FAMILY HAVE BEEN GOING UP TO THESE CABINS FOR YEARS, AND SOME MEMBER'S VOLUNTEER THEIR TIME EACH WINTER TO REPAIR ITEMS THAT HVE BROKEN DOWN OR WORN OUT, LIKE WINDOW SCREENS, CUT FIREWOOD, CLEAR BRUSH, PAINT CABINS, REPLACE APPLIANCES, REPAIRS TO STAIRS, ETC:: WHO THEN WOULDBE RESPONSIBLE FOR UPKEEP? yOU WOULD HAVE TO HIRE OUTSIDE AGENCIES, AND THUS, PRICES WOULD GO UP TO RENT THE CABINS. yOU KNOW WHAT,---THE HELL WITH OUTSIDE AGENIES WANTING TO LET THIS BEAUTIFUL AREA BE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC!! THIS IS ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THIS.
p-town cheesehead

San Clemente, CA

#2 Jul 15, 2007
in regard to the above comment, i agree with the problem of vandalizim and overall carelessness of the general public. however pg&e who seems to have a monopoly on the natural resourse of the northstate should share the bounty and extend access to facilities & areas that are gated and/or restricted to the public. outdoor enthusiests have a right to enviroment we are blessed to have all around us!
SUZIE

United States

#3 Jul 16, 2007
As a local resident, I often have been asked about DeSabla and the campggrounds. A few years back, I took a couple for a walk along the shoreline from the dam and encountered someone yelling at us about trespassing and calling the police on us. As a respected Realtor in the area, I was not about to destroy grounds or equipment but merely giving a couple a tour of our area. PG&E does not prohibit use along the skyway from Paradise, it is open to the public, which includes fishing. Only the cabins on the far side and that is only a small portion of this valuable resource in Magalia. Vandalism is occuring more often in paradise. As our population grows so does the problems growth brings. We can only hope that the ones who use this valuable resource will respect it.
smilely

Courtland, CA

#4 Jul 23, 2007
I think it is a wonderfull idea. As a parent I taught my kids to leave over campsites cleaner than when we arrived and as a grandparent; I teach my grandkids the same rule. We love the outdoors and respect it. Please dont label everyone by a few bad apples. It's a shame not to share our planet, and keeping such beauty to just an elite group is not the american way and to say not fair.
happy camper

Walnut Grove, CA

#5 Jul 25, 2007
As a life time camper I too was taught to leave a campsite as clean or cleaner for the next camper, not only because it is polite but it sets a good example for others who need to know good camping manners or when families arrive with children they can see that others leave campsites clean and that is just the way it should be done. Vandals should be court ordered to go back with responsible adult
supervision and repair the damage out of their own pocket and not their parents.
It's the same as writing on the wall with a crayon and having to scrub it off with
Comet.
smilely wrote:
I think it is a wonderfull idea. As a parent I taught my kids to leave over campsites cleaner than when we arrived and as a grandparent; I teach my grandkids the same rule. We love the outdoors and respect it. Please dont label everyone by a few bad apples. It's a shame not to share our planet, and keeping such beauty to just an elite group is not the american way and to say not fair.
GARY

Chico, CA

#6 Dec 10, 2007
AS FOR THE SESABLA FISH SLAYOR WELL I GUESS YOU DONT HAVE KIDS AND WELL IF YOU DO YOU DONT NO HOW TO RAIS THEM !!! I HAVE 3 KIDS 14,8,6 AND IF TEY DONT LISTE TO ME THEY GET THERE BUTT SPANKED AND I AND MY FAMILY WOULD LOVE TO STAY THE WEEKEND UP THERE SO I CAN TEACH THE YOUNGER ONES ABOUT THE WILD LIFE AND RE-SPECT THANK YOU THATS ALL I GOT TO SAY TO YOU
Tammy

Fair Oaks, CA

#7 Dec 12, 2007
Do you teach your kids to speak English too.I hope not.
Aimee

Gustine, CA

#9 Jul 12, 2009
no!!!! there are very few nonpublic camping areas here in CA.. leave it the way it is!! it will get ruined by having it open to the public!! that's a gaurantee!!
Desabla Veteran

Martinez, CA

#10 May 15, 2010
Are you kidding me? As a kid I use to go to this place. From about 78 to 85. I was just making a inquiry and found out it is opened to the public? No way the roads wont permit it. Besides its hardly a lake? Believe it or not I caught my first fish in Desabla. What is this state coming to?
-PG&E camp grown kid.
Vallejo Visitor

Sacramento, CA

#11 Jul 1, 2010
No, the camps should not be opened to the public. Employees, retirees and former employees of PG&E associated with these camps have worked very hard in their careers to use these camps and should continue to have the sole rights to them. Such folks have been stewards of these camping areas for generations.
mike

Walnut Creek, CA

#12 Jul 19, 2011
Those who cry that everyone should have access to everywhere are off base. First, there are literally thousands of places to camp in California that are open to the general public. Go there. Two, the reason there are PG&E camps is because of the vast hydroelectric system that it maintains. The company has already sold or given away scores of land to appease so-called environmentalist groups. Three, PG&E is an excellent steward of its land -- far better than your average "camper." Four, this is America. It wasn't based on letting everyone do whatever they want. We have something here that is revered called property rights. Or perhaps I could come and camp on your front lawn for a couple weeks?
Jim Cady

Morro Bay, CA

#13 Apr 15, 2016
I have worked for PG&E for 50 years and I am retired, Our family has been going to DeSabla from 1970, and our family is going again this year for my 75th birthday. If PG&E employs do not fill the camps the public should have the chance to apply 1 month before reservation.
Delusional ONE

United States

#14 Apr 15, 2016
Jim Cady wrote:
I have worked for PG&E for 50 years and I am retired, Our family has been going to DeSabla from 1970, and our family is going again this year for my 75th birthday. If PG&E employs do not fill the camps the public should have the chance to apply 1 month before reservation.
OK... so we are supposed to believe that this "Jim Cady" just happened upon this 6 year old thread and just happend to have an "issue" with PG&E about his "victimization" by this horrible inhuman corporate monster...?
Nice try Grandpa...!
Woodsy Owl

Chico, CA

#15 Apr 15, 2016
Children with hatchets and axes should be supervised. Please prohibit them from indiscriminately chopping away at live trees on your next camping trip. Thank you.
Woodsy Owl

Chico, CA

#16 Apr 15, 2016
mike wrote:
Those who cry that everyone should have access to everywhere are off base. First, there are literally thousands of places to camp in California that are open to the general public. Go there. Two, the reason there are PG&E camps is because of the vast hydroelectric system that it maintains. The company has already sold or given away scores of land to appease so-called environmentalist groups. Three, PG&E is an excellent steward of its land -- far better than your average "camper." Four, this is America. It wasn't based on letting everyone do whatever they want. We have something here that is revered called property rights. Or perhaps I could come and camp on your front lawn for a couple weeks?
Pacific Gas & Electric owns the now-vacant, 1.3-acre property on the 200 block of Riverside Drive along the Napa River south of downtown. It wants to cleanse the site of petroleum hydrocarbons, metals and other contaminates and sell it to a developer so apartments or townhouses can be constructed.
The state must certify the completed cleanup effort before apartments can be built. David Harnish of PG&E said in a letter to Napa Sanitation District that this could take until 2021.
http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/poll...
Woodsy Owl

Chico, CA

#17 Apr 15, 2016
mike wrote:
Those who cry that everyone should have access to everywhere are off base. First, there are literally thousands of places to camp in California that are open to the general public. Go there. Two, the reason there are PG&E camps is because of the vast hydroelectric system that it maintains. The company has already sold or given away scores of land to appease so-called environmentalist groups. Three, PG&E is an excellent steward of its land -- far better than your average "camper." Four, this is America. It wasn't based on letting everyone do whatever they want. We have something here that is revered called property rights. Or perhaps I could come and camp on your front lawn for a couple weeks?
Erin Brockovich is an American legal clerk and environmental activist, who, despite her lack of formal education in the law, was instrumental in building a case against the Pacific Gas and Electric Company of California in 1993.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Brockovich... (film)
Woodsy Owl

Chico, CA

#18 Apr 15, 2016
mike wrote:
Those who cry that everyone should have access to everywhere are off base. First, there are literally thousands of places to camp in California that are open to the general public. Go there. Two, the reason there are PG&E camps is because of the vast hydroelectric system that it maintains. The company has already sold or given away scores of land to appease so-called environmentalist groups. Three, PG&E is an excellent steward of its land -- far better than your average "camper." Four, this is America. It wasn't based on letting everyone do whatever they want. We have something here that is revered called property rights. Or perhaps I could come and camp on your front lawn for a couple weeks?
The 2010 San Bruno pipeline explosion occurred on September 9, 2010, in San Bruno, California, a suburb of San Francisco, when a 30-inch diameter steel natural gas pipeline owned by Pacific Gas & Electric exploded into flames.
As of September 29, 2010, the death toll was eight people. The United States Geological Survey registered the explosion and resulting shock wave as a magnitude 1.1 earthquake.
On January 13, 2012, an independent audit from the State of California issued a report stating that PG&E had illegally diverted over $100 million from a fund used for safety operations, and instead used it for executive compensation and bonuses.
On April 1, 2014, PG&E was indicted by a federal grand jury in U.S. District Court, San Francisco, for multiple violations of the Natural Gas Pipeline Safety Act of 1968 relating to its record keeping and pipeline "integrity management" practices. An additional indictment was issued by the grand jury on July 29, 2014, charging the company with obstruction of justice for lying to the NTSB regarding its pipeline testing policy, bringing the total number of counts in the indictment to 28. Under the new indictment, the company could be fined as much as $1.3 billion, based on profit associated with the alleged misconduct, in addition to $2.5 billion for state regulatory violations.

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