wtf____

United States

#21 Sep 10, 2011
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>and what experience do you have in the work force?
12 years union shop+
wtf____

United States

#22 Sep 10, 2011
Ape Linkon wrote:
GE doesn't need you. You could have agreed to contract, but like good little unions serving your masters, you go ahead and seal the fate of the company. GE is big enough to move on without having to deal with the union and they'll ship their jobs to Alabama, Mississippi, South Carolina, where they'll be appreciated. Sure, production will continue for the time being, not like they can close their doors instantly- just don't be surprised in a few years to see sections being moved out, and eventually your own line. You not only screwed yourselves, but also the other non-union employees as well. I understand you want more, but you're going to have to understand at times more is not being offered. They're opening new plants, they'll just make room for the jobs you voted to lose.

Everyone say thank you. Don't be silly and try to fool yourself that your jobs are going to be around much longer. They'll hire here and there, but eventually you'll be witnessing the fruits of your "labor". York moved out because they didn't want to put up with your crap, you're lucky that GE put up with it for this long.
Seems to me when the union dries up in madisonville so will the management positions. No work force, no support staff required.
wtf____

United States

#23 Sep 10, 2011
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>you idiot, York was on their way out way before the union. Borg warner dumped York and that was the start of the downfall get your facts straight before running your mouth.
Sorry, York was sold to boost a failing company.
Go play while the adults have a conversation
oh yeah

United States

#24 Sep 10, 2011
wtf____ wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, York was sold to boost a failing company.
Go play while the adults have a conversation
idiot I worked there and was friends with the the plant manager. Borg warner dumped the air conditioning business and even closed some non union plants. The closing of the plant was inevitable, regardless of union or non union. Now you go play until you get your facts right. People like you love to run their mouths on hearsay.
oh yeah

United States

#25 Sep 10, 2011
Ape Linkon wrote:
<quoted text>
No clue?
I did at one time give my money to union executives to provide them with a luxurious lifestyle, for the only benefit to hear people demand more, more, more, whine, bicker, complain...risking their jobs for a big-wig in some office that says protest and like good little sheep the members done so, and I held my head in shame as they were not working. I was embarrassed.
But I am corporate now (and love it), so I get to write people, who apparently have a clue, up and I get to sit back and watch you do that thing you call work.
just what I thought, a good ole boy that blames the American worker for everything

“Dont tell me my dress is black”

Since: Nov 09

Pig, KY

#26 Sep 10, 2011
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>wow we got a real winner here with ape man. What kind of experience do you have working with unions? It really shows how uneducated you are. I'm sure you have one of those poverty level paying jobs or you are a good ole boy who drops to his knees when the boss yells for you, or you dont have a job at all.
Uneducated? I have more parchment on the wall than you have teeth.

You're wrong about my job. I get a nice salary, can sometimes go home without having to put in the full eight and still be paid regardless, nice medical and 401K.

If you read anything I had posted prior. I was part of a union and had to listen to grown children complain, make rumors about their bosses, etc. I'm still around unions though, I just don't have to worry about them getting my job taken away though.

“Dont tell me my dress is black”

Since: Nov 09

Pig, KY

#27 Sep 10, 2011
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text> you idiot, York was on their way out way before the union. Borg warner dumped York and that was the start of the downfall get your facts straight before running your mouth.
I did get my facts straight. As anyone that served in management there. The union members will say it was Borg Warner. They were told to not vote union, but they didn't listen and more jobs were lost due to unions.
wtf____

United States

#28 Sep 10, 2011
oh yeah wrote:
<quoted text>idiot I worked there and was friends with the the plant manager. Borg warner dumped the air conditioning business and even closed some non union plants. The closing of the plant was inevitable, regardless of union or non union. Now you go play until you get your facts right. People like you love to run their mouths on hearsay.
Guess what? Those union brothers are now working somewhere else and the union bosses still got paid with your money to watch it happen.
Piss and moan all you want every time you drive by that empty building knowing YOU paid the folks who closed it and put you out of a job.
oh yeah

Philadelphia, PA

#29 Sep 10, 2011
wtf____ wrote:
<quoted text>
Guess what? Those union brothers are now working somewhere else and the union bosses still got paid with your money to watch it happen.
Piss and moan all you want every time you drive by that empty building knowing YOU paid the folks who closed it and put you out of a job.
once again your ignorant most of the company people straight up got canned. And a lot of the hourly workers went to another York plant. And guess what, its union and still I'm operation. And archaeology no union bosses, they were company. A company could care less if you are hourly or salary when it fed time to cut jobs everyone suffers yes even the good ole boys . And no ichave never looked back, had to work scab for awhile and it sucked, I will not be a good ole boy for anyone, now working in a union shop and couldn't be happier
oh yeah

Philadelphia, PA

#30 Sep 10, 2011
Ape Linkon wrote:
<quoted text>
I did get my facts straight. As anyone that served in management there. The union members will say it was Borg Warner. They were told to not vote union, but they didn't listen and more jobs were lost due to unions.
no you didn't you are a liar I was there you wasn't
oh yeah

Philadelphia, PA

#31 Sep 10, 2011
Ape Linkon wrote:
<quoted text>
Uneducated? I have more parchment on the wall than you have teeth.
You're wrong about my job. I get a nice salary, can sometimes go home without having to put in the full eight and still be paid regardless, nice medical and 401K.
If you read anything I had posted prior. I was part of a union and had to listen to grown children complain, make rumors about their bosses, etc. I'm still around unions though, I just don't have to worry about them getting my job taken away though.
but you are a good ole boy and we know what you good ole boys do to keep your jobs!
oh yeah

Philadelphia, PA

#32 Sep 10, 2011
Ape Linkon wrote:
<quoted text>
I did get my facts straight. As anyone that served in management there. The union members will say it was Borg Warner. They were told to not vote union, but they didn't listen and more jobs were lost due to unions.
once again you are a liar, Borg warner split from York long before the union. Borg warner got out of the air conditioning business because it was not profitable just that simple ape, once again BORG WARNER WAS OUT OF THE PICTURE LONG BEFORE SO NOBODY BLAMED BORG WARNER! LIKE I SAID GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE FLOPPING YOUR UNEDUCATED JAW
dumb15ass

Somerset, KY

#33 Sep 10, 2011
Ape Linkon wrote:
<quoted text>Your name serves you well. I'm actually happy where I am employed with my nice salary and sufficient savings and investments, also known as being able to quit my job tomorrow and live pretty good for at least four years. No debt. I call that broke.

I don't want to have to follow work to Alabama.
What's in Alabama big Dan?
GE man

Clarks Summit, PA

#34 Sep 10, 2011
A new GE aviation branch plant is going up in Auburn, Alabama. It will manufacture turbo fan blades and place anti corrosive coatings on internal sections of practically the same jet engine models that GE Madisonville produces.

That's one of the places where GE will be moving the Madisonville jobs to. They will probably piece it apart to various plants, assigning different lines to different plants. Their economy will probably boom with that plant opening. Not like it needed much booming though, look at where it's located- not too familiar with the area myself, but it's probably double the size at least of Madisonville with plenty of infrastructure already in place. Don't be surprised to receive notice that you do have the option to move and keep your position there.
it will

Madisonville, KY

#35 Sep 10, 2011
Time will tell
who gives a

Madisonville, KY

#36 Sep 10, 2011
really? really?....REALLY! factories bring the city folk in. Who cares bout them factories, they leave-u idiots leave. Maybe tear those ridiculously waste of space bulidings down and plant some trees! I dont need no factory to survive! The only small business tht will fail are the ones owned by outsiders. Us locals dont need your inflated prices anyway!
Weneedjobs

Owensboro, KY

#37 Sep 11, 2011
who gives a wrote:
really? really?....REALLY! factories bring the city folk in. Who cares bout them factories, they leave-u idiots leave. Maybe tear those ridiculously waste of space bulidings down and plant some trees! I dont need no factory to survive! The only small business tht will fail are the ones owned by outsiders. Us locals dont need your inflated prices anyway!
I realize the above is sarcasm, however, thought processes such as yours is the reason Madisonville has been at population of 19,000 for thirty years now - flat with zero grow. While places like elizabethtown Murray etc in ky continue to grow. I wish my kids and grandkids could come back and be closer to me, however, that is not going to happen. No jobs. When ge pulls out Madisonville will be a one step closer to one of many dying towns in ky like Dawson springs which was once a growing place many years ago. The sum of the ge wages/jobs in Madisonville equal nearly all the other factories combined. Madisonville with current union manufacturing mentality will never recover. If you follow a job to the south, good luck selling your house.

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#38 Sep 11, 2011
Dumbass been saying for over a year GE Madisonville is the most profitable plant in the system, our local union will not allow our jobs to shift out, our jobs are not going anywhere, baa, baa, baa. Well,ďAbeď, you are correct in that Dumb15ass name does serve him well. The reality of it is, the majority of the local GE workforce in Madisonville is aged and many like Dumbass have their time in for a buyout. Thus, they could give a rats ass about the younger workers that will get a pink slip in 2013, or long term employment opportunities the Madisonville plant could/has provided to their children or grandchildren or the trickle down from wages into Madisonville economy for jobs this plant currently provides to their grandchildren and children, or further the economic trickle down into the Church they attend or the United Way. When Lear/IAC shut down and laid off a few years ago, it hurt and many knew someone that worked at the facility. However, GE is on a whole new level and when Madisonville GE plant begins it phase out - Madisonville will suffer like it has never before due to the small population base of town in relation to the large scale of wages/jobs facility accounts for within this base.

Well over a year ago, I put up a few posts basically stating the writing is on the wall, to stir awareness/debate of this issue and a plea for the local Madisonville union to end the antagonistic management/labor relations that I continue to hear are ever present in the GE Madisonville facility, realizing that we are in the worst economic downturn since the great depression. Thus, do everything they can to end this antagonistic cycle thereby keeping GE Madisonville union jobs safe like the GE union jobs in Cincinnati and other facilities. What does the local Madisonville union do, one of only two facilities within the entire GE system to NOT vote for in accepting recent labor contract. Real smart. Concessions have to be made within current economic environment. I take my hat off the UAW union up the road in Louisville that made major concessions with Ford to keep jobs from shifting south. This union saw the writing on the wall, however, the UAW reacted in time and this new line of next generation Escape and 600 million dollar investment will stay in KY and be produced in Louisville thanks to Louisville UAW making very major concessions and working with not against management. Over 17,000 people recently put in applications for these new Ford Louisville jobs as an indication of how bad our economy is. How many people put in for the few jobs GE Madisonville announced it needed to replace a few that had retired? I guess the local Madisonville Union really does not understand how bad it is out there and how many skilled people with 4 year degrees want their job?

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#39 Sep 11, 2011
Over the past year or so GE aviation has announced publicly:

A large scale phase II expansion of the Greenville, SC blade facility, a large expansion adding 150,000 sq ft announced Sept 2009 . New technology and team driven labor at Greenville reduces production time of blades by 50% and employment will be increased to 250. http://www2.wspa.com/news/2009/sep/01/ge_avia...

Batesville, MS plant opened in 2008 and currently employs 100. On Dec 2009 GE announced a major expansion to increase employment from 100 to 450 and invest over 85 million in new technology equipment and to expand existing factory sq. ft.. This plant has partnership with Mississippi State University with training programs. http://www.aerospacealliance.com/pressroom/ge...

Ellisville, MS announced July 2011. GE aviation will invest 56 million is new technology, equipment and facility for a parts facility in a new state the art 300,000 sq ft factory. GE has a partnership with University of Southern Mississippi for this plant. GE will start out with 250 workers that will go online in 2013 at this new Ellisville plant. http://jobs.aol.com/articles/2011/07/28/ge-to...

Auburn, AL New 200,000 sq ft. GE aviation Parts factory located next to Auburn University which has one the top aerospace engineering programs in the nation and has produced more NASA astronauts than any university or area -Madisonville union may have a hard time competing with this. Not only is this area educated, the area will be free of antagonistic union/management relations. This new GE Aviation facility in Auburn is schedule to start production in 2013 and employ 400 at its beginning.
http://blog.al.com/businessnews/2010/11/ge_av...

These new recent aviation part plants and expansions represent over a quarter of billion dollars being spent from 2011-2013 by GE aviation for new parts facilities, and equipment in non union AL, MS, and SC. How much has GE spent in last few years for new equipment or upgrading old equipment at Madisonville facility? If Madisonville was the most efficient and profitable plant in the GE system as dumbass claims - why are they not investing money back into this facility or utilizes this most profitable Madisonville union workforce and build other GE plants like in Greenville, SC area? Follow the money folks. The writing has been on the wall many many years now long before these announcements and unlike the Ford union leaders the GE unions leaders have watched it happen for many years with their thumb up you know what and have done nothing to try to reverse this trend.
chlorine

United States

#40 Sep 11, 2011
I don't see that much of GE being such an economic force as it was. Alliance coal or Trover maybe.

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