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'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate

There are 289237 comments on the thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com story from Oct 1, 2010, titled 'Fox News Sunday' to Host Kentucky Senate Debate. In it, thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com reports that:

"Fox News Sunday" is heading to Louisville, Ky. Jack Conway, Kentucky's attorney general and the Democratic candidate for Senate , and Rand Paul, the Republican nominee and son of Representative Ron Paul, Republican of Texas, have agreed to a live debate on "Fox News Sunday" on Oct.3 at 9 a.m. (Eastern time).

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Reality

United States

#81942 Feb 20, 2013
Yes, you can get a free cell phone with government assistance. If you make very little money, or you're part of other federal programs such as public housing, food stamps, SSI, or Medicaid, you can get a free mobile phone paid for by a fee on everyone else's phone bills.

LifeLine is funded by the Universal Service Fund, which you see as a surcharge on your phone bill. Established by a 1996 law, the USF makes sure that people who live in rural and low-income areas, as well as schools and libraries can get phone service. It doesn't make a distinction between wired and wireless phones; you can get a subsidy for either, but you have to choose one.

For years, phone companies used LifeLine subsidies to provide discounted service—AT&T still does—but now low-cost wireless providers can take the same subsidy and provide totally free service.

Here's how it works: LifeLine typically provides a $10 per month subsidy for low-income Americans' phone lines, Fuentes said. TracFone and Virgin Mobile are able to turn that $10 into 250 minutes. The phones themselves aren't paid for by the government.
wtf

Edmonton, KY

#81943 Feb 20, 2013
Worse wrote:
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Ummm. He's the president. Usually more eating than your typical job application. I guess the burden of proof lies with you window licking republicants
Hey Hamburgler it's the LAW that the candidates must prove that they are eligible. But Obama got a free pass. Again.
OZombies

United States

#81944 Feb 20, 2013
obamatized wrote:
let me axe you a simple question, if bush lied us into war and obozo knows bush lied us into war why is it still going on why didnt he say this was a lie and we are bringing our troops home, and dont try and feed me the horsecrap about obozo ending the war he didnt , bush ended the war in iraq it took 2 years to pull everything out, gitmo is still open, obama is still using bush drone program. the rich still didnt pay taxes according to you leftwingwhackadoodles for the first 4 years of obama, you people are nutz
How else can Obama justify what he is doing? It's easy to blame on Bush oh that Bush! Obama makes alot of changes but live only those he can blame on Bush or Republicans. It's alot easier for a LIAR to blame on somebody else then to take responsibility ...OBAMA ~ NEW RULES!
dems are retards

Jackson, MI

#81945 Feb 20, 2013
Uncle Tab wrote:
I have to say its sad for everyone to be beating up the poor dems are retards poster. This poor woman is just like the American Crackhead..... Topix is all these 2 idiots have.
Please be a little easier on them. They can't help it that they just don't have an ounce of sense.
Have to admit it is funny when she has no rebuttal and just types one line replies.... Like she really is accomplishing something.
In closing, be nice to the special needs people here. They don't realize how ignorant and uneducated they are.
just a yes or no answer, have you stopped being a pedofile? yes or no,
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#81946 Feb 20, 2013
Worse wrote:
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Ummm. He's the president. Usually more eating than your typical job application. I guess the burden of proof lies with you window licking republicants
The proof is in the framers of the 14th, would you care to read them? I can give you everything that was discussed the floors of congress!

“We ain't GOT no problems”

Since: Feb 13

dilbertville USA

#81947 Feb 20, 2013
wtf wrote:
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Hey Hamburgler it's the LAW that the candidates must prove that they are eligible. But Obama got a free pass. Again.
Simply because he is BLACK!
dems are retards

Jackson, MI

#81948 Feb 20, 2013
Injudgement wrote:
<quoted text>And here's your world without unions--- Volkswagen opened a new manufacturing facility in Chattanooga TN two years ago. The workers make $14.50 per hour. Less than $30,000.00 per year. Tell us all how someone has a home, family, car and saves for retirement working what use to be a high paying job before the unions were gone. Wages of workers have gone down in the past 30 years.
too bad, if they don't liket the wages they can go somewhere else, hard working people with two jobs have no business providing them benefits and high pay, let them go to college and get edumakated and raise their own salary instead of striking for it,
OZombies

United States

#81949 Feb 20, 2013
new hammer time wrote:
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there is a fee for answering the questions you have/
Huh...right, Obama new rule...fee on top of fee...
dems are retards

Jackson, MI

#81950 Feb 20, 2013
did u know wrote:
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I took your advice and learned that you are v e r y uninformed...
Thousands of conservatives are telling jokes about the #ObamaPhone.
There is one problem with the Obama Phone: It doesn’t exist.
Since 2009, there has been an urban myth that Obama created a program to provide free phones to low-income Americans at taxpayer expense. There is, in fact, a government program that will provide low-income people with a free or low cost cell phone. It was started in 2008 under George W. Bush.
The idea of providing low-income individuals with subsidized phone service was originated in the Reagan administration following the break-up of AT&T in 1984.(It was expanded and formalized by the Telecommunications Act of 1996.) The program is paid for by telecommunications companies through an independent non-profit, not through tax revenue
the moon doesn't exist either, it is just a painting on a hot air balloon,
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#81951 Feb 20, 2013
did u know wrote:
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Can you prove he isn't?????
sure can!
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#81952 Feb 20, 2013
Worse wrote:
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Ummm. He's the president. Usually more eating than your typical job application. I guess the burden of proof lies with you window licking republicants
sure does and I have it!
did u know

United States

#81953 Feb 20, 2013
Reality wrote:
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Google: Lifeline free cell phones.No the cell phone for food stamp recipients is not paid by telecommunications companies---they transferred those charges to their customers or guess what, why is it on your bill?
You must be a food stamp recipient or a welfare recipient or low income in order to receive this.
This is an added charge on people's telephone bill and some, such as myself don't even own a cell phone but do work and pay for someone too lazy to work to have a cell phone free.
Reminder, Obama is president of the USA and he can discontinue this program, even though he did not start this program, he is still a condoner and author of this bill.
Instead, his Admin has added almost 20 MILLION more recipients to the free cell phones, so yes, this can be consider "The Obama Free Cell Phone."
It's no more "The Obama Free Cell Phone" than it was the Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, etc....etc....all the way back to Reagan Free Cell Phone.
Jay

Springville, TN

#81954 Feb 20, 2013
Reality wrote:
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I see you are having difficult reading the post.
I stated I don't have a cell phone but yet on my landline telephone bill is a charge: Lifeline or Universal fee that pays for someone else to get a cell phone free. This is called a fee, not taxes.
I never stated taxes and I plainly stated I do not have a cell phone.
Is this much easier to understand??
********

Hey R, I just looked at my ATT phone bill, landline. I did not see the word Lifeline, but what I did see was "Federal Universal Service Fee." I'd like to know what that is, for a fact, because any services I get, like inside, outside wiring, call waiting, caller ID or long distance is already listed separately. Interesting wording isn't it? Just call it something they won't understand or pay attention to and here we go!!!!!!
dems are retards

Jackson, MI

#81955 Feb 20, 2013
did u know wrote:
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It's no more "The Obama Free Cell Phone" than it was the Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, etc....etc....all the way back to Reagan Free Cell Phone.
looks like the libs have run out of 'it's Bushs fault', they gotta go all the way back to Reagan, baaaaaaaaaa
Worse

United States

#81956 Feb 20, 2013
Justice Dale wrote:
<quoted text>The proof is in the framers of the 14th, would you care to read them? I can give you everything that was discussed the floors of congress!
No need. It's not up to me to vet the applicants.

“We ain't GOT no problems”

Since: Feb 13

dilbertville USA

#81957 Feb 20, 2013
Woman Dumps Boyfriend After Finding Him with Another Woman in Online Map

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/trending-now/woma...

Talk about getting caught red-handed !
Justice Dale

Wichita, KS

#81958 Feb 20, 2013
Hey, all you liberals (useless breathers), I have some oceanfront property in Arizona! Would you care to invest?
OZombies

United States

#81959 Feb 20, 2013
did u know wrote:
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It's no more "The Obama Free Cell Phone" than it was the Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, etc....etc....all the way back to Reagan Free Cell Phone.
Stop going back! Obama can STOP and make changes like everything else. Why in the hell it's everyone else's fault but Obama's? Cut the crap dude!
wtf

Edmonton, KY

#81960 Feb 20, 2013
did u know wrote:
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It's no more "The Obama Free Cell Phone" than it was the Bush 1, Bush 2, Clinton, etc....etc....all the way back to Reagan Free Cell Phone.
The only difference between now and then is that Bush and Clinton didn't use the free phones and food stamps as voting bait. Obama did. He publicized the freebies and it worked. Free cell phones and free minutes and 20 million more on food stamps. Hell, Obama even advertised food stamps in Mexico to help the illegals figure out how to get food stamps when they got here. Pelosi even said more people on food stamps is great for our economy. Have you ever listened to a damn thing the democrats say? Have you ever watched how they do things? Oh, that's right...you are just a repeater. Never mind.
did u know

United States

#81961 Feb 20, 2013
dems are retards wrote:
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looks like the libs have run out of 'it's Bushs fault', they gotta go all the way back to Reagan, baaaaaaaaaa
But first, you have to go way, way back. The telephone business was once a regulated monopoly, which in practice meant the government could tell the phone companies to do things — like providing discount service for poor people or pay to string wires out to remote areas — in exchange for continuing to enjoy their monopoly. But over the course of the last 30 years, starting with the 1984 break-up of the AT&T monopoly of local telephone service into Baby Bells, regulations have eased as new telecommunication providers have emerged.

The creation of the Lifeline program -- which has now been dubbed the "Obama phone" -- during the Reagan administration was one of these attempts to ensure that the new fragmented and competitive telecom industry still provided the same public goods that the old monopoly did. Far from a government cheese handout, Lifeline was funded through a "universal service charge" on phone bills, and then administered by a private non-profit. While the distinction between a surcharge and a tax may seem technical, it was specifically selected to over a proposed welfare program — a straight-up handout referred to as "phone stamps." The Universal Service Fund was created to be a lean, nimble private sector beast.

The guys who came up with the idea for Lifeline were Republican Sen. Bob Packwood and Democratic Rep. John Dingell. The Reagan administration soon got on board, as The New York Times reported on December 27, 1983, in part because of "a growing recognition that the price of telephone service could become a 1984 campaign issue." Then other Republicans got on board -- Sens. John Heinz and John Chafee urged the Federal Communications Commission to "take concrete steps to ensure that local telephone companies offer lifeline programs designed to preserve affordable phone service," according to The Washington Post on September 15, 1985.

Initially, AT&T and MCI attacked the proposed legislation. Telecom executives wanted "phone stamps," and thought a government agency should "target a subsidy to the needy," as AT&T chairman Charles L. Brown told Congress in 1983. But Lifeline backers didn't "want to create a politically vulnerable and unwieldy government 'phone-stamp' program that would subsidize phone service for the poor through increases in state and federal taxes," The Washington Post reported July 30, 1983. Phone companies were already subsidizing local service through long-distance rates, and supporters wanted Lifeline funded in a similar way. Thus a new line appeared on phone bills.

1996

Lifeline was expanded in 1996 in yet another moment of pushing for small government. AT&T agreed to offer more plans to low-income people in exchange for an end to the FCC's last phone price controls, as The New York Times reported September 28, 1995. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 created the Universal Service Fund, which mobile phone carriers had to contribute to. The money collected by the universal service fee goes to the Universal Service Administrative Company, which gives the money back to companies to build cell towers in rural areas, offer service to poor people, get schools and libraries connected to the Internet, and get rural health care providers communications services.

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