Coal Miners & The Obama Administration.

Coal Miners & The Obama Administration.

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Old School Miner

Hawesville, KY

#1 Nov 12, 2012
Obama kept his promise and that was to shut down the coal industry by regulating it out of business and to over-regulating it to the point it would be extremely difficult to recover when the next republican president enters the oval office. Obama is pulling this country down the tubes and as a result will take all the coal producing states including Kentucky with him. Its time to show Obama that Kentucky isnt well pleased with his attack on the coal industry and the coal severance funds the industry provides and the working class Kentucky families the coal industry supports.

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Madvegas

#2 Nov 12, 2012
Amen
Blogger

Nortonville, KY

#3 Nov 12, 2012
Our state can't afford us now...you have no idea what taking federal funding from us would do. First you can say bye bye to our education, we'd have to pay to drive on interstates, heaven forbid all of the freeloaders may actually have to work...I'm not even going to waste my time going into more detail about how stupid this movement would be. I think common sense says this is all a joke. Some states may be able to survive at the state level but Ky is DEFINITELY not one if them! And before you ask about coal, yes coal pays my households bills and throughout Obamas first 4 years we never missed a check. As a matter of fact, we make more money now. That has nothing to do with Repub or Dem, just saying he wants the coal clean. We should be pissed at the coal owners when they don't succeed for not playing by the rules they were given, all in the name of making their pockets thicker.
Old School Miner

Hawesville, KY

#4 Nov 13, 2012
Blogger wrote:
Our state can't afford us now...you have no idea what taking federal funding from us would do. First you can say bye bye to our education, we'd have to pay to drive on interstates, heaven forbid all of the freeloaders may actually have to work...I'm not even going to waste my time going into more detail about how stupid this movement would be. I think common sense says this is all a joke. Some states may be able to survive at the state level but Ky is DEFINITELY not one if them! And before you ask about coal, yes coal pays my households bills and throughout Obamas first 4 years we never missed a check. As a matter of fact, we make more money now. That has nothing to do with Repub or Dem, just saying he wants the coal clean. We should be pissed at the coal owners when they don't succeed for not playing by the rules they were given, all in the name of making their pockets thicker.
Do you personally know a coal miner or are you related to one or do you live next door to a coal miner. If you do know a coal miner and you voted for Obama then you stabbed that coal miner in the back when you did the horrible thing that you did.
Blogger

Nortonville, KY

#5 Nov 13, 2012
My husband is a coal miner!!!!!!!!! We have not missed one single pay check and we are better off today than we were 4 years ago!!! Now do you know any coal miners? I think yes, we all do. See!! They're still employed! He said before his first election he was going to regulate coal burning power plant in an effort to keep the air clean. People are naive to believe Romney was going to be some big coal God, nothing was going to change with him in office. As a matter of fact the union mines would have suffered because he wanted to break down unions. There are more issues than coal. People of this are don't really know not care about the issues but we sure would have felt the wrath if the election had gone the other way. Reminder.. The answer to your question- yes!!! Coal supports my house!!
Edu

United States

#6 Nov 13, 2012
If you think you're going to lose your job, take the opportunity to prepare by getting an education so you won't have to worry about doing that type of work & losing it in the future. I'm thankful for our coal mining industry, but like any industry, things progress and you must progress with it.
Jesse

Dunmor, KY

#7 Nov 13, 2012
We need these democratic leaders, we need more liberals, we need Al Sharpton to reveal the trugh, we need Jesse Jackson to represent us, we need a government program..
ban coal

United States

#8 Nov 13, 2012
Plants. save a planet. Your days are numbered.
real world

Central City, KY

#10 Nov 13, 2012
Coal is not going anywhere. EPA know this, they just want the cleanest coal possible, and it is pretty darn clean these days...they want to figure out a way to recycle the carbon that comes from coal.We will always have coal.
Mudd

Hawesville, KY

#11 Nov 13, 2012
Blogger wrote:
My husband is a coal miner!!!!!!!!! We have not missed one single pay check and we are better off today than we were 4 years ago!!! Now do you know any coal miners? I think yes, we all do. See!! They're still employed! He said before his first election he was going to regulate coal burning power plant in an effort to keep the air clean. People are naive to believe Romney was going to be some big coal God, nothing was going to change with him in office. As a matter of fact the union mines would have suffered because he wanted to break down unions. There are more issues than coal. People of this are don't really know not care about the issues but we sure would have felt the wrath if the election had gone the other way. Reminder.. The answer to your question- yes!!! Coal supports my house!!
If your husband is a coal miner and you voted for the anti-coal obama ypur husband needs to divorce you for being hopelessly stupid enough to vote him out of a job.
coal_guy

Tucker, GA

#12 Nov 13, 2012
How come nobody is looking at the real reason the coal market has slowed down? The mild winter and record low price of natural gas last year and a predicted record low price of natural gas again this year is what's hurting the coal industry.
PunlZhR

Centertown, KY

#13 Nov 13, 2012
I am gay
Blogger

Nortonville, KY

#14 Nov 14, 2012
Mudd wrote:
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If your husband is a coal miner and you voted for the anti-coal obama ypur husband needs to divorce you for being hopelessly stupid enough to vote him out of a job.
My husband voted Obama also, thank you. He laughs at all of this and all of you. Where is coal going? Do you see any new gas plants going up? Do you see any other source of electricity being built in this part of the country? No...so are you so naive to believe they're going to just shut coal down?? Just turn the lights out? I was in Sureway the other day and listened to a couple people complain about the president and low and behold one of them pulled out their big ole government food stamp card. I wanted to laugh out loud. Talk about biting the hand that feeds them! Now there's a real issue for Obama- haters...coal is not.
royce

Madisonville, KY

#15 Jun 21, 2013
Well, Whitey re-elected Obama, yet we still have a bad economy, high unemployment, high gas prices as well as many other problems....
Coal

Owensboro, KY

#16 Jun 22, 2013
The wife that thinks coal is not under attack by whitehouse and EPA needs to look beyond the walls of her house. Just because her husband job with alliance has not been affected - alliance and Chris Cline in the IL basin are about the only two companies that have have major financial set backs and layoffs.

Coal pants are still closing in high numbers every year due EPA regs and nat gas prices are back. currently today much cheaper per kilowatt at a coal facility vs nat gas

Strip mining thing of the past due to EPA - no permits. Strip mining was still very common in places like east ky. Currently, there are 5000 unemployed coal miners in EKY. For the first time ever, wky recently produced more coal than EKY.

Not long ago Armstrong had issues with permission and EPA with surface operation and almost had to do a layoff like in EKY (issues delays on permits) Due to head ache on EPA and permits with Obama on surface - armstrong will be shifting underground 100% with time and they spent a fortune on 3 draglines

One has to wonder patriot made money first two years before Obama war on coal. It is all Peabody fault - the war on coal by Obama played 0% in this

Pick your poision the fracking of nat gas pollutes the ground water, rivers and wells. Coal when burned is dirtier than nat gas but new technology can be put in place to make it more level, we will not even go to nuclear with Japan closing all its nuclear plants and opening new coal plants

Bottom line coal stocks as a sector is not one to invest right now will most of the companies at 52 wk lows or near or in bankruptcy.
Fly

Tucker, GA

#17 Jun 22, 2013
Not everyone relies on coal?
Not everyone gives a shit?
Some were smart enough to know it
had no future!
China

Owensboro, KY

#18 Jun 22, 2013
Fly wrote:
Not everyone relies on coal?
Not everyone gives a shit?
Some were smart enough to know it
had no future!
Tell that to china who relies almost completely on coal for its industrial engine and has and continues to eat the welfare USA lunch and loans the USA money so we can send out more disability, food stamp, free cell phones and welfare checks. Instead of trying to get people off govt asst -- no a govt that has advertising campaigns to get people on.

Liberal and anti coal states like NY and CA have kilowatt electric prices that are more than double the Ohio river valley and Tennessee river valley. Once these liberal cap in trade, EPA type policy are in phased in places like KY it is happening - your power bill which has already gone up past few years will continue at an even higher rate. So when your now electric bill is say $100 month at your house in KY -- when your paying NY kilowatt rates and it is $225 +month -- you may care then.

World wide energy poverty is a leading cause a death in countries. Cheap reliable energy is the driving force of a healthy economy. The Tennessee valley was beyond poor prior to TVA. TVA was vital to the economic development of the area - just like energy from coal is the vital economic engine to china. China burns and mines more than double soon to be triple the amount of coal than the USA. When you will soon be paying $1,000 more year for your home electric bill and all the factories that rely on low cost kilowatt prices are gone and in china - you may care then. This country and its energy and wal fare policies are taking it down the tube. Hell, Obama and EPA will not even allow a pipeline to be built to get the oil out of North Dakota so now field is land lock with no river and has to be trucked. thus, field cannot be developed... Same thing happening with EPA in coal
Fly

Tucker, GA

#19 Jun 22, 2013
Why would I give a shit about china?
They don't buy my food or keep a roof
over my head?
You can politic all you want?
But the bottom line is they are not a part
of my life and if you weren't so dead set
On trying to sound in the "know" you'd
See the real issues that stand in front of you!
Fly

Tucker, GA

#20 Jun 22, 2013
All I see you doing is hunting for something
to bitch about or even sound educated on?
Coal is a dying resource so learn to
Roll with the changes you can't change!
China

Owensboro, KY

#21 Jun 22, 2013
Fly wrote:
Why would I give a shit about china?
They don't buy my food or keep a roof
over my head?
You can politic all you want?
But the bottom line is they are not a part
of my life and if you weren't so dead set
On trying to sound in the "know" you'd
See the real issues that stand in front of you!
Your right china plays no part in your life. I guess you do not shop at Walmart? Walmart has several ships larger than air craft carriers weekly unloading in ports in CA with goods from china and the ships are going back empty. it has no bearing that US govt is borrowing tens of billions monthly from china to float the usa economy. China just last week purchased smithland the Tyson's foods of pork in the USA. If china started selling off all the usa treasuries it owns on the open market - it would send our economy into a depression not recession and yes this would affect the roof over your head and the food on your table.

The fact is cheap reliable energy is the back bone for any strong economy. You may be the son of a wealthy doctor and not have to work. But the reality of it is working people need low power bills, they need gas for their car to stay low (pipeline from North Dakota and Canada to existing oil refiners along the gulf), they need manufacturing jobs here in the USA not exporting them to china, they need a govt that is strong not one borrowing money from Peter to pay Paul. I guess world events, energy prices, food prices, have no bearing in your bubble of a life. I am hear to tell you I was just a child in WWII and my father served and it was a scary time. China reminds me of Germany and the world came close to all speaking German in the 40's and this was not too long ago. USA doesn't want the usa coal or oil - china will take it and buy it. Armstrong just built a 50 million dollar dock in new orleans to sale its coal over seas. Canada has said the hell with Obama and EPA on pipeline issues from canada oil sands to the usa gulf refiners. Canada is now building an oil pipeline to the west to a Canada port on the pacific and china is going to buy the oil. No - the way things are going in the usa, china will have no future bearing on you or your kids life...

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