Wisconsin recall is high-stakes bet for unions

Apr 11, 2012 | Posted by: roboblogger | Full story: Daily Journal

MADISON, Wis. - Unions are facing a make-or-break moment in their campaign to drive Wisconsin's Republican governor from office.

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Stupid Teabaggers

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PSDinWI wrote:
The unions and their cry baby bitchy brats are going to lose big time.And I hope it cost them more and more Millions of $$$$ so they have to stop their lying and cheating ways.
And then maybe we can fire a bunch of the worthless cry babies.
Stupid teabagger. Good to see you were able to grunt out a couple bumper sticker slogans and offer no substance whatsoever. Who and what are they lying about? Who and what are they cheating on? Fire who?.....the teachers? Well if they did fire the teachers, your family would obviously NOT be affected in the least as its pretty obvious you operate at around a room temp IQ.
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Obskeptic wrote:
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What are you talking about? Every single thing you listed is a benefit that is provided because the business exists and manages to be profitable in spite of the union. Take away the business that provides the jobs, and the union has absolutely no foundation to exist. Unions do not create any wealth. They are a lampray that feeds on it's host until it gets sick and dies, unless the host is funded by the taxpayers. I see that one of your so called victories is the Equal Pay Act. Why is it that the President doesn't even practice what you preach amongst the White House staff?
Guess you never read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclaire.....didja? Stupid teabagger....bet you done graduated in the bottom 25% of your high school class in bumpkinville.
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Superfly wrote:
Private sector unions cost the tax payer nothing.
Union members promote a fair wage for non union workers, thats a fact, incluing managements pay scale.
ceo's pay is up 200 percent since the decline of unions would you like a pat on the head for all your hard work or do you think 60 hour a week labor is only worth pennys on the dollar as the corperation partys in there mansions and laugh at the low labor cost.
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These teabaggers can't compute percents. They only understand in terms of whats in the best interest for them only. They worry about what everyone else has or is doing instead of trying to better themselves. They're like crabs...when one tries to climb out of the pot...another one pulls it back in.

Put it this way teabaggers, back in the 1980's the CEO (thats the main "bossman" in your terms) made about 40 times what you the average worker did. Now, they make 420 times more than you do. They do this because retards like the teabaggers voted rich and live poor.
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Stupid Teabaggers wrote:
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Guess you never read "The Jungle" by Upton Sinclaire.....didja? Stupid teabagger....bet you done graduated in the bottom 25% of your high school class in bumpkinville.
I did, and I surely don't extend any credibility to your attempts to invalidate me. The fact that you are prepared to declare what the extent of my intellect is rather then respond to my argument with an intellectual response speaks volumes about you. Typical indoctrinated union bully.

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Ex Republican wrote:
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Weekends
All Breaks at Work, including your Lunch Breaks
Paid Vacation
Well let's start with the first 3.

Sorry to inform you of this but there is no law requiring you get a weekend, Wisconsin does have a 1 day in 7 law, that requires 24 hours of rest. So legally, they could work you till midnight saturday and but you back on sunday midnight.

there is no law requiring any employer to give you a break or lunch period, unless you are under the age of 18.

there is no law requiring that you be granted paid vacation or to even grant you vacation

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Superfly wrote:
Private sector unions cost the tax payer nothing.

Union members promote a fair wage for non union workers, thats a fact, incluing managements pay scale.

ceo's pay is up 200 percent since the decline of unions would you like a pat on the head for all your hard work or do you think 60 hour a week labor is only worth pennys on the dollar as the corperation partys in there mansions and laugh at the low labor cost.

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Private sector unions do cost the taxpayer money. The price of the services or goods they produce are inflated to cover the costs of running the unions and paying union officials. I'm pretty sure the union officials don't work for free?? The money comes from the inflated wages which in turn pay the unions dues. So yes the taxpayers who are the consumers do pay for private sector unions. Typical liberals have silly ideas but no sense of the cost or where the $$$$ comes from.

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HATE wrote:
This fight is WE THE PEOPLE againt them the rich scum who want us all working for peanuts why they live like kings......REVOLUTION IS COMING RICH NAZI SCUM!!!!!!!We will take back this nation
Just a question for you. How much do you consider being rich? What income per year do you consider to be rich?

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Ex Republican wrote:
republicans would rather support corporations instead of organized groups of workers working to secure a fair work environment A.K.A a union, I ask them to walk the walk as well. Give up every benefit and right that you use that unions are responsible for.

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Weekends
All Breaks at Work, including your Lunch Breaks
Paid Vacation
FMLA
Sick Leave
Social Security
Minimum Wage
Civil Rights Act/Title VII (Prohibits Employer Discrimination)
8-Hour Work Day
Overtime Pay
Child Labor Laws
Occupational Safety & Health Act (OSHA)
40 Hour Work Week
Worker's Compensation (Worker's Comp)
Unemployment Insurance
Pensions
Workplace Safety Standards and Regulations
Employer Health Care Insurance
Collective Bargaining Rights for Employees
Wrongful Termination Laws
Age Discrimination in Employment Act of 1967
Whistleblower Protection Laws
Employee Polygraph Protect Act (Prohibits Employer from using a lie detector test on an employee)
Veteran's Employment and Training Services (VETS)
Compensation increases and Evaluations (Raises)
Sexual Harassment Laws
Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA)
Holiday Pay
Employer Dental, Life, and Vision Insurance
Privacy Rights
Pregnancy and Parental Leave
Military Leave
The Right to Strike
Public Education for Children
Equal Pay Acts of 1963 & 2011 (Requires employers pay men and women equally for the same amount of work)
Laws Ending Sweatshops in the United States
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conservatives, please practice what you preach and give up all these rights and leave the umbrella of these laws for they were brought to you by unions .

Thank you unions keep up the good work.
Ok if the unions have accomplished all of that there should be nothing left so they can go away quietly now.
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Spalding wrote:
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Well let's start with the first 3.
Sorry to inform you of this but there is no law requiring you get a weekend, Wisconsin does have a 1 day in 7 law, that requires 24 hours of rest. So legally, they could work you till midnight saturday and but you back on sunday midnight.
there is no law requiring any employer to give you a break or lunch period, unless you are under the age of 18.
there is no law requiring that you be granted paid vacation or to even grant you vacation
No shyt sherlock, we found that out the hard way ,our union contract has won one weekend off a month,unions will continue to fight for the man being worked to death, especially vacation time for years of service.

Our union was voted in just as all unions have been.

All of you fools want to throw away the voice of labor.

Republicans are no friend of labor and are no friend of the middleclass

unions fight for fair labor practices and are very much needed.

thank you union.
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Ok if the unions have accomplished all of that there should be nothing left so they can go away quietly now.
Never, and walker is as good as goner and the unions will rule the world Mooooooo..hahahhahahahahahhaha hahaha
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Spalding wrote:
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Well let's start with the first 3.
Sorry to inform you of this but there is no law requiring you get a weekend, Wisconsin does have a 1 day in 7 law, that requires 24 hours of rest. So legally, they could work you till midnight saturday and but you back on sunday midnight.
there is no law requiring any employer to give you a break or lunch period, unless you are under the age of 18.
there is no law requiring that you be granted paid vacation or to even grant you vacation
no shyt dumbass, what this means is all of the union jobs have these in there contract when sweatshops foundrys and other manufactureing companys want to vie for employees they follow suit, I know of no manufactures in southern wisconsin that has a union shop that have no breaks, vacations or weekend time off.

A non unionshop will become unionized if workers are denied these very basic rights.// Take a look around at what the republicans are doing, they are not the working mans friend.
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It's those Nazi party unions that kill jobs...

and raise taxes...

collective bargaining = Nazi unions

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superffly wrote:
<quoted text>no shyt dumbass, what this means is all of the union jobs have these in there contract when sweatshops foundrys and other manufactureing companys want to vie for employees they follow suit, I know of no manufactures in southern wisconsin that has a union shop that have no breaks, vacations or weekend time off.
A non unionshop will become unionized if workers are denied these very basic rights.// Take a look around at what the republicans are doing, they are not the working mans friend.
So you claim that the unions have done all these things but the reality is they haven't accomplished any of it. Guess what, I'm not union, I get weekends off, breaks and 4 weeks of paid vacation. Yet there is no law forcing my company to do this for me, no union forcing my company to do this and yet it's not a sweatshop like you claim it will be if unions are gone. Companies that want to keep valued employees, take care of their employees. Companies that don't take care of their employees find out that good employees leave and word of mouth makes it extremely hard to find new help.
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This GSA scandal is chilling. It reminds us all that allowing Govt Empl Unions to buy politicians who pretend to be Democrats at election time is a clear act of civic suicide.

Governor Walker may be all that stands between the UnionCrat madness and the financial health and long term well being of the citizen families in Wisconsin.
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Spalding wrote:
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So you claim that the unions have done all these things but the reality is they haven't accomplished any of it. Guess what, I'm not union, I get weekends off, breaks and 4 weeks of paid vacation. Yet there is no law forcing my company to do this for me, no union forcing my company to do this and yet it's not a sweatshop like you claim it will be if unions are gone. Companies that want to keep valued employees, take care of their employees. Companies that don't take care of their employees find out that good employees leave and word of mouth makes it extremely hard to find new help.
quote. Companies that don't take care of their employees find out that good employees leave and word of mouth makes it extremely hard to find new help....

DUH,,

Thats why we voted in a union to bargin a labor agreement, our 30 year employees are not about to leave while a new company that bought us runs it into the ground, Im not going anywhere, but guess what the middle and upper management gets looked at and some where fired when the union sat down with upper corperate and opened there eyes on what really makes the company profitable.

Unions fightt for fair and just labor practices.

Our union is respected by our companys owners, they have been made aware on how valueable the older workers are.

you got shyt for a brain.
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superffly wrote:
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quote. Companies that don't take care of their employees find out that good employees leave and word of mouth makes it extremely hard to find new help....
DUH,,
Thats why we voted in a union to bargin a labor agreement, our 30 year employees are not about to leave while a new company that bought us runs it into the ground, Im not going anywhere, but guess what the middle and upper management gets looked at and some where fired when the union sat down with upper corperate and opened there eyes on what really makes the company profitable.
Unions fightt for fair and just labor practices.
Our union is respected by our companys owners, they have been made aware on how valueable the older workers are.
you got shyt for a brain.
WI problems aren't with the American Labor Unoins who function in the Private Sector. WI problems are with the public employee unions who don't have to negotiate their contracts if they can buy politicians who will sell out current and future generations of WI families.
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Who Rules?

•Business viewpoint: employers should have freedom to run businesses as they see fit, without undue interference from workers; labor is a commodity to be bought and sold at market price; this is the core of free enterprise.

•Union viewpoint: labor is not a mere commodity, but a special part of the human experience; workers deserve a say in the conditions of their labor; the right of workers to organize in their own self-interest is a basic human right.

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As someone who was called into the general managers office 30 years ago and asked to make there corperation my career, buy my home in there community, enroll my children in there schools, retire after 30 years of service.

I took them up on there offer, I kept my word, guess what, after 20 years into it they took away the retirement plan, cut wages and benifits, there ceo's bonaus went up 200 percent.
Dropped our health insurance provider and went self insured and fired a few old timers and replaced them with incompatent younger employees who didnt work out in the long run..

Guess what we organized and brought in a union.

We kicked some serious ass.

35 years now and going strong. What they promised me on the day I was hired in was put back into my terms of employment.

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it took a union to make the big corperation keep there word and still does, they still trie to work some of the men to death, And decree unfair labor practices, but we just have to keep winning fair labor contracts every time the contract is up and thats what we are still doing.

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unions fight for rights, stop unfair labor practices.

The right of workers to organize in their own self-interest is a basic human right.
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Dane Thorsen wrote:
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WI problems aren't with the American Labor Unoins who function in the Private Sector. WI problems are with the public employee unions who don't have to negotiate their contracts if they can buy politicians who will sell out current and future generations of WI families.
Dane it is a attack on all unions. public and private they have already started ads on wisconsin television they are going against the private sector .if the reacll dosnt win, and the wisconsin labor movement will be thrown back a 100 years.
I would not be surprised if the republicans in this state try to lower the minumin wage like the nevada republicans tried to.
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Who Rules?

•Business viewpoint: employers should have freedom to run businesses as they see fit, without undue interference from workers; labor is a commodity to be bought and sold at market price; this is the core of free enterprise.

•Union viewpoint: labor is not a mere commodity, but a special part of the human experience; workers deserve a say in the conditions of their labor; the right of workers to organize in their own self-interest is a basic human right.

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As someone who was called into the general managers office 30 years ago and asked to make there corperation my career, buy my home in there community, enroll my children in there schools, retire after 30 years of service.

I took them up on there offer, I kept my word, guess what, after 20 years into it they took away the retirement plan, cut wages and benifits, there ceo's bonaus went up 200 percent.
Dropped our health insurance provider and went self insured and fired a few old timers and replaced them with incompatent younger employees who didnt work out in the long run..

Guess what we organized and brought in a union.

We kicked some serious ass.

35 years now and going strong. What they promised me on the day I was hired in was put back into my terms of employment.

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it took a union to make the big corperation keep there word and still does, they still trie to work some of the men to death, And decree unfair labor practices, but we just have to keep winning fair labor contracts every time the contract is up and thats what we are still doing.

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unions fight for rights, stop unfair labor practices.

The right of workers to organize in their own self-interest is a basic human right

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superffly wrote:
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quote. Companies that don't take care of their employees find out that good employees leave and word of mouth makes it extremely hard to find new help....
DUH,,
Thats why we voted in a union to bargin a labor agreement, our 30 year employees are not about to leave while a new company that bought us runs it into the ground, Im not going anywhere, but guess what the middle and upper management gets looked at and some where fired when the union sat down with upper corperate and opened there eyes on what really makes the company profitable.
Unions fightt for fair and just labor practices.
Our union is respected by our companys owners, they have been made aware on how valueable the older workers are.
you got shyt for a brain.
I do love the insults, It's nice to see all these years have matured you into a stand up human being that any company might be glad to hire.

You seem to like to claim that since you are union and you have these benefits, that it is benefiting the rest of us in some way. It's not. Again, I'm non-union, non-public employee, I have great benefits and wages. So your theory that unions are required to get these things is out the window. Your theory that the world will be a sweatshop if unions don't exists is out the window. Ex-Republicans theory that we need unions because they gave us his big list is out the window. The only reason you want to make sure unions are kept around, is because you are union. Any one that has ever worked in a union has seen a darn good worker get laid off, well a total putz is kept on just because the union contract says so. In a union you don’t have to be good at your job, you just need to have been their longer then the guy next to you.

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