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Ex-gym teacher gets 3 months for child porn

There are 23 comments on the The Capital Times story from Sep 24, 2007, titled Ex-gym teacher gets 3 months for child porn. In it, The Capital Times reports that:

“One of the things he was trying to do is assure everybody that all the kids are safe”

Former Madison gymnastics teacher Patrick Okopinski was put on probation for seven years and ordered to spend three months in jail Monday for the possession of child pornography. via The Capital Times

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A Madison Parent

Madison, WI

#1 Sep 25, 2007
I happen to know this man. As reported, he doesn't need to go to jail since he has shown himself to be sorry etc. & "they" are surprised that no kids came forward to say they were molested etc.. But he will go to jail anyway. Well, if you knew him, you would know that, Yes, he made a mistake. He was on the internet & looked at things he shouldn't have. Doing it at his business was very irresponsible. He didn't buy any images or try to pursue what he saw. I'm not sure how he is supporting an industry without buying anything. His life is ruined because of his bad decisions. There are many upstanding parents out there who would tell you that this is a fine man who taught their children well. It is frightening to me that we can pass judgment so easily on someone for being naive. If he were going to do something to a child, He would have done that in the 17 years that he was in contact with children. It is scary to me that people are willing to jump on the bandwagon & pass judgment on someone they don't know. It is even more scary that a system can destroy a persons life for a mistake that a lot of people make even if they aren't willing to admit it.
With just the right slant we can all be criminals - What happened to individual freedom. I understand this sort of judgment if there is proof of damage towards a person, or proof of support of a disgusting industry, but I believe mistakes in judgment shouldn't be criminal.
disgusted in the system, A Madison Parent
-with 3 children coached by this criminal.
A Concerned Parent

Gardner, KS

#2 Nov 27, 2007
I have been told that there is a video that has been posted to the internet that has two girls preforming gymnastics in the nude that was filmed in his gym. The two girls in the video have dark hair and appear to be around 9 and 12 years old. In the opening of the video it shows a male subject that appears to be Mr. Okopinski working with the two girls in question as well as other children at the gym as he spins them on a rope, at this time all subjects are clothed. The next part of the video has the two girls preforming in the nude. One of the girls I am told actually refers to the other by their real name instead of the aliases of "Kasey" and "October". Both girls were also featured at one time on preteen modeling sites under the Kasey and October names. Mr. Okopinski may or may not have had any connections with these girls and the modeling sights in question. However, I am told that near the end of the video containing the nudity you can observe the reflection of a male subject holding the camcorder that resembles Mr. Okopinski.

If any of this is correct I would have to be more than a little worried about him being in contact with children. It also makes me wonder how thorough the investigation was in this case.
Former gymnast of Pat

Berlin, Germany

#3 Dec 6, 2007
I was shock when I learned what had happened...I have known pat for a long time as a child and as an adult ( i worked the irthday parties in college)...he NEVER touched or filmed anybody nude or otherwise, that accusation is rediculous and you should be asshamed at what your are spreading...you should be concerned about what kind of role you are setting for your kids etc...spreading lies like that...you have NO RIGHT...he did something really stupid...he looked at things that he should not have...we have all made mistakes in our lives and I am not justifying what he did...it was wrong even he knows that... But what you are doing is also wrong (concerned my ASS more like vicous and malicious)...I agree with A Madison Parent...we can't judge him for looking at stuff that should even be on the internet in the first place... He loved gymnastics, was an awesome coach, friend and mentor! and it is sad that more people will not able to benefit from his talents because of a stupid mistake!
Former gymnast of Pat

Berlin, Germany

#4 Dec 6, 2007
I meant to type SHOULD NOT BE ON THE INTERNET IN THE FIRST PLACE...german keyboards are different then english keyboards and I was typing too fast sorry
Former gymnast of Pat

Berlin, Germany

#5 Dec 6, 2007
IT IS A LIE!! In all the years that I was at All Stars i don't ever remeber a time when anybody was alone in the gym with Pat or anyother coach or emplyee... during Birthday parties or practice...even with private lesson for safety reasons there were always multiple people around. You need to be careful about what you "hear", what you choose to believe and what you then spread...especially when you don't have any concrete information yourself...that is slander not to mention rude!, you should consider talking to your mother because she obviously failed to teach you any manners!
A Concerned Parent wrote:
I have been told that there is a video that has been posted to the internet that has two girls preforming gymnastics in the nude that was filmed in his gym. The two girls in the video have dark hair and appear to be around 9 and 12 years old. In the opening of the video it shows a male subject that appears to be Mr. Okopinski working with the two girls in question as well as other children at the gym as he spins them on a rope, at this time all subjects are clothed. The next part of the video has the two girls preforming in the nude. One of the girls I am told actually refers to the other by their real name instead of the aliases of "Kasey" and "October". Both girls were also featured at one time on preteen modeling sites under the Kasey and October names. Mr. Okopinski may or may not have had any connections with these girls and the modeling sights in question. However, I am told that near the end of the video containing the nudity you can observe the reflection of a male subject holding the camcorder that resembles Mr. Okopinski.
If any of this is correct I would have to be more than a little worried about him being in contact with children. It also makes me wonder how thorough the investigation was in this case.
dhdhzdhd

Bayside, NY

#6 Dec 9, 2007
who reall ares if he came across some child porn on the internet its not like hes making it him self any ways its mostly made in other countrys where noone cares and the girls want it not forced in to it there is also alot worse things out there than that i dont aprove of this stuff my self but the only reason why people think its wrong is society we are all forced to beleive things are right or wrong but who is the judge the young girl that is willing to have sex on camera the person who comes across it on the internet or the people that dont have a voice of there own and let society speak for them honestly what did he do so wrong here yes its sick but who did he hurt how much money did he pay to see this stuff think about it people he didnt really do any thing wrong if everyone is so concerned go after the people making it not the one that viewed it off the internet also why dosnt anyone care about any of the other sick sex acts out there oh yea thats right society hasnt told you to yet
former hokie

Frederick, MD

#7 Apr 3, 2008
If there is a video of the girls performing gymnastics in the nude, the legality of the video may or may not be the issue. In most cases we are too quick to jump to the "erotic" conclusion, though it does seem a tad unusual in the US, in a vast majority of the rest of the world, this would not seem the least bit unusual. Americans can be so prudish sometimes. If it is anything other than innocent nudity, then we should be worried. Otherwise, without seeing the video, I couldn't say if it is porn or not. Just being nude doesn't make it pornography.
Tina from NJ

Sayreville, NJ

#8 Apr 4, 2008
well then post a picture of you right here on the boards in your birthday suit. No excuses for that type of behavior by saying "Americans can be so prudish". That is perverted to even think.
idiotsannoyme

Jackson, KY

#10 Jun 3, 2009
Tina from NJ wrote:
well then post a picture of you right here on the boards in your birthday suit. No excuses for that type of behavior by saying "Americans can be so prudish". That is perverted to even think.
Prudish is an understatement. Many other countries have a long track record of being far ahead of america. Sex and the desire of sex are so natural and prominent in our lives. But some of us suppress it through fear, shame, or to please others. Some of us accept the natural feelings and embrace them. Just because some people who embrace nature happen to also be psychos who force themselves on others doesn't prove that what is natural is also wrong.

There are predators in all walks of life. But most people who embrace the desires for sex use it in a safe and private way. They give themselves gratification through visual stimulation. Like using preteen modeling photos. it's just another brand of a fantasy. It's all pretend. Most people have no desire to investigate the identity of a young girl to go have sex with her. They simply get off and go back to what they were doing. There is no crime in doing what is natural. Why does this type of thing exist? Who cares why? It does exist. There's no harm in it. The harm comes when groups of people try to condemn it. You'll have a fight on your hands that you cannot win. For many, to be in touch with nature is such a spiritual experience. For others to take that away is like declaring war. Don't beother trying to rid the world of pretten modeling. Its here to stay like it or not. I predict 10 years from now it will become a more legitimate business. No different than women's rights decades ago.
whonameit

Anderson, IN

#11 Sep 12, 2009
[Quote]former hokie wrote:
If there is a video of the girls performing gymnastics in the nude,without seeing the video, I couldn't say if it is porn or not. Just being nude doesn't make it pornography.[/Quote]
there is a video out there called, "Kasey and October Nude Gymnasts / Кэ&#10 89;и и Ок&#10 90;об& #1077;р об&#10 85;аж& #1077;нн ая". It is 1.5GB, all though some people claim it could be cp, it is still out there with the thought that it is natureal simular to Nudist colony video's such as, "Nudist Junior Miss Pageant 2000". Yes, The usa laws are strict on cp criminalogy. but we also know that even if you had pictures or video's of nude children modeling but not re-inacting sexual suggestive behaviors but poseing for the camera. the usa justice system being drived by the media will find a way to condem the person as a crimanal against children. soon usa will comense the law that any all photo's and video's depicting children in the nude will be subject for criminal acts, so start destrroying those wonderful memory pics and videos of your children (as babies - preteen) bathing in the tub with bubbles. or that funny one when your baby took off his diaper and ran thru the house laughing. just saying.
In 4med

Eugene, OR

#13 Aug 2, 2010
The video referred to above had NOTHING to do with Mr. Okopinski. The producer of that video was the father of the girls and a gymnastics coach as well, in Indianapolis or thereabouts. He was sentenced this spring to 38 YEARS in federal prison for these and other images.
eurogringo

Prague, Czech Republic

#14 Oct 17, 2010
In 4med wrote:
The video referred to above had NOTHING to do with Mr. Okopinski. The producer of that video was the father of the girls and a gymnastics coach as well, in Indianapolis or thereabouts. He was sentenced this spring to 38 YEARS in federal prison for these and other images.
- if this is true, then all i can say is: God save America! It's nothing but witch hunt. Americans seem to hate everything that's natural and innocent, and worship guns and violence.
lol

Madison, WI

#15 Jan 4, 2011
A Concerned Parent wrote:
I have been told that there is a video that has been posted to the internet that has two girls preforming gymnastics in the nude that was filmed in his gym. The two girls in the video have dark hair and appear to be around 9 and 12 years old. In the opening of the video it shows a male subject that appears to be Mr. Okopinski working with the two girls in question as well as other children at the gym as he spins them on a rope, at this time all subjects are clothed. The next part of the video has the two girls preforming in the nude. One of the girls I am told actually refers to the other by their real name instead of the aliases of "Kasey" and "October". Both girls were also featured at one time on preteen modeling sites under the Kasey and October names. Mr. Okopinski may or may not have had any connections with these girls and the modeling sights in question. However, I am told that near the end of the video containing the nudity you can observe the reflection of a male subject holding the camcorder that resembles Mr. Okopinski.
If any of this is correct I would have to be more than a little worried about him being in contact with children. It also makes me wonder how thorough the investigation was in this case.
You've been told? by who? your pedophile friends?
Stegmar

Florence, AL

#17 Mar 12, 2011
This man should never have been in any trouble in the first place. He didn't abuse or harm any children so there should be no involvement by the authorities.
Jack

Honolulu, HI

#18 Dec 19, 2011
I've seen the videos in question - 2 young nude girls performing gymnastics - i saw nothing "dirty" since I don't see the human body as something ugly , but rather as beautiful. The coach never molested them. It amazes me that Americans think pictures of beautiful young girls is dirty, yet they have no problems going around the world killing people. War - that's the REAL pornography!!!
Jack

Honolulu, HI

#19 Dec 19, 2011
"Americans seem to hate everything that's natural and innocent, and worship guns and violence."

Sadly, that's true. Torturing people at Gitmo or Abu-Ghraib is OK,
proving your "manhood" by how many guns you own is OK, but the nude human body is "evil" and 'dirty". Too many Americans are really screwed up. Unfortunately, that's what you get with a nation founded by Puritans who think they're morally superior to everybody else.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us "for our own good" will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C.S. Lewis
Jack

Honolulu, HI

#20 Dec 19, 2011
"well then post a picture of you right here on the boards in your birthday suit. No excuses for that type of behavior by saying "Americans can be so prudish". That is perverted to even think."

Tina from NJ's attitude is so typical of many Americans - the nude human form is "evil". No, I would not post a pic here, but I would have no problem going to a nude beach. Look, so far as those "child porn" pics , there was no sex involved, just some girls doing gymnastics. You could see the same thing on any beach in Europe.
Grow up.
Remi

Hapert, Netherlands

#21 Jul 25, 2012
Stegmar wrote:
This man should never have been in any trouble in the first place. He didn't abuse or harm any children so there should be no involvement by the authorities.
I √°bsolutely agree.
By the way, these two little girls look só cute ;)
No wonder their dad loved shooting them naked, I would do the same.
The videos are awesome ;)
Ex Student

Temple, TX

#22 Aug 9, 2012
i've been following this case since it happened and have never seen or heard anything about this video. so it sounds like you got fooled by someone with an overactive imagination.
A Concerned Parent wrote:
I have been told that there is a video that has been posted to the internet that has two girls preforming gymnastics in the nude that was filmed in his gym. The two girls in the video have dark hair and appear to be around 9 and 12 years old. In the opening of the video it shows a male subject that appears to be Mr. Okopinski working with the two girls in question as well as other children at the gym as he spins them on a rope, at this time all subjects are clothed. The next part of the video has the two girls preforming in the nude. One of the girls I am told actually refers to the other by their real name instead of the aliases of "Kasey" and "October". Both girls were also featured at one time on preteen modeling sites under the Kasey and October names. Mr. Okopinski may or may not have had any connections with these girls and the modeling sights in question. However, I am told that near the end of the video containing the nudity you can observe the reflection of a male subject holding the camcorder that resembles Mr. Okopinski.
If any of this is correct I would have to be more than a little worried about him being in contact with children. It also makes me wonder how thorough the investigation was in this case.
The Internet

Temple, TX

#23 Aug 9, 2012
Obvious Troll is Obvious.
Girlover wrote:
I do not beleive Mr. Okopinski did anything wrong. The bodies of girls at all ages were meant to be enjoyed by everyone. A man should not be penalized for wanting to enjoy the female form regaurdless of the females age.

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