John Kasich, Tea or No Tea? Depends ...

John Kasich, Tea or No Tea? Depends on who he is talking to

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Lucretia

Elyria, OH

#1 Jun 17, 2010
On "Hardball" today former Ohio congressman and GOP gubernatorial candidate John Kasich was hawking his new book as well as his pro-Tea Party politics.

By modern standards, Kasich (at least during his House career) might be considered a moderate: He was a fiscal hawk, but he wasn't a demonizer.

He voted for President Clinton's assault rifle ban (and he's currently paying for it; the NRA has endorsed Gov. Ted Strickland in the race) and he was even known to collaborate with former Rep. Ron Dellums to cut Pentagon waste.

The 2010 Kasich likes to boast that he was "in the Tea Party before there was a Tea Party," has reversed his stand against assault rifles, and is of course running to his right to try to defeat Strickland.

On "Hardball" today, he was disowning the fringe, Birther element of the Tea Partiers and talking up the wholesome anti-tax, small government, energizing strain of the movement.

He claimed moderate GOP Sen. Scott Brown as a Tea Party victory, and he didn't like it when I noted that Brown has been running away from the right ever since he got elected.

But Kasich got to me when he started talking about the Tea Party's anti-elitism, that they're "blue collar Democrats" worried about the future. This is likewise Pat Buchanan's line, and of course I'm supposed to be the symbol of liberal elitism. So I thought it was fair to point out that Kasich left Congress and went to work at Lehman Brothers Holdings, hardly a bastion of anti-elitism.

It's become an issue in Kasich's race for governor, because the Ohio employees pension fund, like many, took a big hit when Lehman collapsed.

(The same thing happened in Florida, and will be a big reason why former Lehman guy Jeb Bush might find a comeback difficult.)

The Columbus Dispatch reported that Kasich himself pitched Lehman holdings to the pension fund board in 2002, although that conversation didn't directly result in Lehman business.

Only today, the Associated Press revealed that a Kasich operative advised a state pension fund executive on how to minimize Lehman's role in the fund's losses when talking to reporters.

So Kasich was understandably a little sensitive about the issue, accused me of a "smear" and complained that I was "picking on" him.

He also advised me to read his book "so you can learn how to control yourself." Yikes! It's called "Hardball," sir.

Also, in the "things I wish I'd said" department: TPM reported in January that Kasich was warning his fellow Republicans that the Tea Party movement was so angry, they would "hang" Republicans "from the nearest tree" if they didn't endorse their far-right agenda.

That doesn't make them sound like the reasonable folks Kasich was describing today.

I find it sad that once-reasonable Republicans like Kasich feel they have to court the fringe folks, or else they'll be hanged from trees. Here's hoping they're hanged -- figuratively, of course -- in November.

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/...
Interesting

Lexington, KY

#2 Jun 17, 2010
Thanks
Lucretia

Elyria, OH

#3 Jun 17, 2010
You are welcome.

Kasich obviously has two-faces. Neither of which says much about his veracity or his qualifications to serve as Governor.
Tea is best served hot

Akron, OH

#4 Jun 28, 2010
Lucretia wrote:
You are welcome.
Kasich obviously has two-faces. Neither of which says much about his veracity or his qualifications to serve as Governor.
Don't make me laugh! Like Strickland doesn't talk out of both sides of his mouth AND was qualified when he was elected??? REALITY CHECK.
Lucretia wrote:
I find it sad that once-reasonable Republicans like Kasich feel they have to court the fringe folks, or else they'll be hanged from trees. Here's hoping they're hanged -- figuratively, of course -- in November.
Oh yes, "figuratively", of course (snicker, snicker). The Democrats already control the White House, and both houses of Congress and are restructuring the Supreme Court, so what else do you want? And they're doing SUCH a wonderful job of running this country, aren't they?

Why don't you join you anarchist/commie pals protesting at the G20 meeting Lucretia? I think you and Joan Walsh would feel right at home there.
Lucretia

Akron, OH

#5 Jun 30, 2010
Tea is best served hot wrote:
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Don't make me laugh! Like Strickland doesn't talk out of both sides of his mouth AND was qualified when he was elected??? REALITY CHECK.
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Oh yes, "figuratively", of course (snicker, snicker). The Democrats already control the White House, and both houses of Congress and are restructuring the Supreme Court, so what else do you want? And they're doing SUCH a wonderful job of running this country, aren't they?
Why don't you join you anarchist/commie pals protesting at the G20 meeting Lucretia? I think you and Joan Walsh would feel right at home there.
CBO director: Stimulus and deficit-cutting measures don't clash
By Walter Alarkon - 06/30/10 12:22 PM ET

More government spending to boost a still-recovering economy doesn't clash with a long-term goal of cutting deficits, Congress' official budget scorekeeper said Wednesday.

"There is no intrinsic contradiction between providing additional fiscal stimulus today, when unemployment is high and many factories and offices are underused, and imposing fiscal restraint several years from now when output and employment will probably be closer to their potential," said Congressional Budget Office Director Douglas Elmendorf.

Elmendorf made his remarks during a public hearing of the White House fiscal commission.

He cautioned that he wasn't advising Congress on what approach to take, but he said it was "important to understand difference between the effects of government borrowing for a limited period when the economy is weak and [borrowing] for indefinite periods when the economy has recovered."

Elmendorf's remarks give credence to Democratic arguments for stimulus spending. President Barack Obama and Democratic leaders in Congress have said extensions of unemployment benefits and fiscal aid for states to retain public workers would help the economy even though they could add to the $13.1 trillion debt.

Their efforts to enact those extensions have been stymied by Republicans, especially in the Senate, who have insisted that those measures be paid for.

Though Elmendorf said that immediate moves to slash spending or raise taxes to cut deficits would likely slow the economy, putting a deficit-cutting plan in place now and acting on it in the future could provide support to a still-uncertain economy.

"Larger deficits for sustained periods have significant economic consequences," Elmendorf said. "Even temporary deficits produce increases in debt that have harmful consequences over the long run... unless government takes steps later to retire that debt."

Elmendorf was testifying before the commission on CBO's latest long-term budget outlook. The report suggested that the federal debt would hit a level equal to 62 percent of gross domestic product this year, which would be the highest level since the end of World War II.

Under current law, that level would grow to nearly 80 percent at the end of the decade, CBO said.

Under an alternative scenario in which expiring popular policies were extended, that debt would grow to 87 percent by 2020 and triple by 2035.

According to that scenario,(Republicans)will extend expiring Bush-era tax cuts and Medicare doctor payments, prevent the alternative minimum tax from hitting the middle class and block cost-saving measures in the Democrats' healthcare law.

Congress has extended those tax provisions and doctor payments in the past, and analysts have been skeptical that lawmakers would stick to the Democrats' health cost saving measures, Elmendorf said.

Source:
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/10...

Kasich was part of the problem that created the economic problems America and Ohio now faces. He's put personal profits and support for war and wall street profiteers above patriotism for the past 20 years, why do you think he would change now?
alrighty then

Akron, OH

#7 Oct 11, 2010
Please tell me what Strickland has done for this state....I like Kasich and we need someone who has ideas and the drive to make this state better...Strickland needs to go. He had his chance and failed.

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