Christie clarifies: 'Illegal' immigrants are in civil violation

The office of U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie yesterday is sued a statement addressing criticism of remarks he made regarding illegal immigration at a church forum in Dover Sunday.

[Richard]

So it's a crime to enter the country illegally, but not a crime to be here illegally. How can you do one without the other?

It's not hard, and millions of people have done it. People obtain legal visas to enter the U.S. for work, study or tourism and then simply remain in the coun try after the visa expires. Of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States, studies show about 40 percent to 50 percent came here legally but are now illegal immigrants.

[Brittanicus]

Everybody must speak up or we are condemned to massive immigration marches in the next couple of days. In their own countries they would be cleared from the streets with water cannon, or even worse.

Then you have goofballs like U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie, who opens up the front border door even wider, by citing immigration laws that make no real sense. Not to the American citizens, but surely to the the propgating special interest lobby.

Immigration has direct massive negative consequences on today's and yesterdays economy. It is all encompassing your Jobs and economic growth, energy independence, health care access, education and an overcrowded prison system. All these issues are impacted by the 12 to 30 million illegal immigration invasion. This issue is all encompassing because illegal aliens are no longer taking jobs Americans wont do. A case in point, is the arrest of 12 illegal aliens working at the Newport News shipyard in Virginia. They were earning above average wages of $28.00 an hour, which any of the thousands of US taxpayers enemployed, would be willing to work for?

A few states now are representing the American taxpayers, such as Arizona, Georgia, oklahoma and Rhode Island, instead of the special interest lobby. It's taken forty years of complete inattention or betrayal by Washington and timid Governors, Mayors and their lieutenants. Now they must face up to the fact that the majority of taxpayers are sick and tired, of being a welfare system for big business who hire cheap illegal labor.

Illegal immigration all encompassing your Jobs and economic growth, energy independence, health care access, education and an overcrowded prison system. All these issues are impacted by the 12 to 30 million illegal immigration invasion. Predator employers would rather hire an illegal worker, than YOU? No workers compensation to pay, no health care and a miserable low wage. Without any compunction, pariah employers will dump their hired charges on hospital steps; then you the taxpayer covers th cost.

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[cayla99]

Richard wrote:

So it's a crime to enter the country illegally, but not a crime to be here illegally. How can you do one without the other?

By entering the country on a visitors visa and not leaving. You ENTERED legally. This would not apply to those who sneak across our borders, they never were here legally to begin with.

[Anna]

Okay...here's a plan. Let's let the illegals in, let them have it all, let them suck it dry up here in the states.(Using the stunning success of Mexico as an example, these stupid-os will have this place run into the ground in a matter of years.) Meanwhile, let's all sneak down to Mexico and live it up down there. Then the illegals will scurry down there to suck off what they can from us.

Why can't Asians or Canadians or anyone else invade us besides these sawed-off stupid bastards!? Anything and anyone is preferable to this rotten mess we've allowed to happen.

[cudzuqueen]

The Chinese are sneaking in as well, but they aren't making the kind of noise that Hipsanic illegals do. They tend to keep a low profile, and truly do live in the shadows. The fact is there are various illegals of many different ethnicities here, but they must be wiser, seeing as they don't flaunt themselves in our faces, nor are they making demands for special dispensations.

[Tickedoffchick]

Christie needs to go.

[Fed up Vet]

I really don’t care whether you call it a criminal offense or not, the penalty for being in the United States is DEPORTATION. Enforce the Law. Recent efforts in the border states where the law is being enforced has been effective in slowing the invasion. Enforce the Law.

[cudzuqueen]

Fed up Vet wrote:

I really don’t care whether you call it a criminal offense or not, the penalty for being in the United States is DEPORTATION. Enforce the Law. Recent efforts in the border states where the law is being enforced has been effective in slowing the invasion. Enforce the Law.

True enough, I couldn't agree more, but what chance will we have if any of the current candidates get into office? I think this is merely a calm before the real storm. The future doesn't look too bright if Americans don't put their differences aside and band together as a united front demanding the stop of illegal entry, the end of birthright citizenship, the real impetus for their illegal crossing and the immediate deportation of those who have entered without following proper procedure. Without ONE unified voice, we are lost.

[Cricket 23]

Richard wrote:

Of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States, studies show about 40 percent to 50 percent came here legally but are now illegal immigrants.

[edit] Present-day countries of origin
In March of 2006 the Pew Hispanic Center (PHC) estimated the undocumented
population ranged from 11.5 to 12 million individuals[46], a number
supported by the US Government Accountability Office (GAO)[47]. Using data
from March of 2004, PHC estimated[48]
Country of Origin Percent of all illegal immigrants
Mexico 57%
Central America (and to a lesser extent, South America) 24%
Asia 9%
Europe and Canada 6%
Other 4%
According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security[49], the countries of
origin for the largest numbers of illegal immigrants are as follows:
Country of Origin Raw Number
Mexico 5,970,000
El Salvador 470,000
Guatamala 370,000
India 280,000
China 230,000
The Urban Institute, a research group in Washington, D.C., estimates
"between 65,000 and 75,000 undocumented Canadians currently live in the
United States." [50]
[edit] Modes of entry
Modes of Entry for the Unauthorized Migrant Population[51]
Category
Entered Legally with Inspection
a.. Non-Immigrant Visa Overstayers 4 to 5.5 Million
b.. Border Crossing Card Violators 250,000 to 500,000
Entered Illegally without Inspection
a.. Evaded the Immigration Inspectors and Border Patrol 6 to 7
Million
A border crossing card is a card that allows non-immigrants "to commute back
and forth each week from Canada and Mexico".[52]
[edit] Visa overstay
A traveler is considered a "visa overstay" once he or she remains in the
United States after the time of admission has expired. The time of admission
varies greatly from traveler to traveler depending on what visa class into
which they were admitted. Visa overstays tend to be somewhat more educated
and better off financially than those who crossed the border illegally.[53]
To help track visa overstayer the US-VISIT (United States Visitor and
Immigrant Status Indicator Technology) program collects and retains
biographic, travel, and biometric information, such as photographs and
fingerprints, of foreign nationals seeking entry into the United States. It
also requires electronic readable passports containing this information.
Visa overstays mostly enter with tourist or business visas[54]
Percent of Illegal Immigrants who are Visa Overstayers
Year Percent
1994 More than half[55]
2006 45%[56]
[edit] Fraudulent marriage
People have long used sham marriages as a way to enter the United
States.[57] One of the most prominent cases was that of Nada Nadim Prouty, a
Lebanese immigrant who gained entry into the US as a student, but then
married fraudulently to stay in the country, and even became a US citizen
and went on to become an employee of the FBI and the CIA, before pleading
guilty to conspiracy.[58][59] Engaging in a bogus marriage went hi-tech
with the case of a Russian woman and an American man arranging a marriage
over the Internet.[60]
[edit] Border crossing
Each year, an estimated 200,000 to 400,000 illegal immigrants try to make
the 15 to 30-mile (48 km) hike through the wilderness to reach cities in the
United States. "That works out to a city the size of Baton Rouge, La.,
living in the park without a sewage system, without garbage collection,
without a grid of dedicated roads or sidewalks. They move where they want in
four-wheel-drive cars, ATVs, motorcycles, bicycles and their own feet."[61]

[James B]

Christie's a friggin' IDIOT.

Typical American politician these days, I guess...

[Fed up Vet]

cudzuqueen wrote:

<quoted text>
True enough, I couldn't agree more, but what chance will we have if any of the current candidates get into office? I think this is merely a calm before the real storm. The future doesn't look too bright if Americans don't put their differences aside and band together as a united front demanding the stop of illegal entry, the end of birthright citizenship, the real impetus for their illegal crossing and the immediate deportation of those who have entered without following proper procedure. Without ONE unified voice, we are lost.

The way I see it, at this point, it makes no difference who is elected as president. The next president, just like Bush, will sign any amnesty bill which reaches him or her. The only difference, with regard to immigration, is weather the Democrats or the Republicans will enforce current law. With McCain’s current Hispanic advisor, I don’t see any real difference between the parties either.

Real reform will remain in the hands of congress for the next four years. With all the media attention on the presidential candidates, we need to elect congressional candidates who support our issues. This is where the issue will be decided.

[Fed Up]

Many letters are pouring in today as the May 1st march is on. Have you sent yours?

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/issuesact...

http://www.lframerica.com/wallofshame

[asian guy]

christopher christie in "CYA" mode. cover your ass. and he better...

underneath it all, we know he wants to help the illegals stay here...by rallying them to go to new jersey to live, he has pretty much placed his political career in jeopardy.

the big question that comes to my mind now is - are there any laws to address what to do to people who come in on legal visa, but overstay?

anyone?

[asian guy]

Anna wrote:

Okay...here's a plan. Let's let the illegals in, let them have it all, let them suck it dry up here in the states.(Using the stunning success of Mexico as an example, these stupid-os will have this place run into the ground in a matter of years.) Meanwhile, let's all sneak down to Mexico and live it up down there. Then the illegals will scurry down there to suck off what they can from us.
Why can't Asians or Canadians or anyone else invade us besides these sawed-off stupid bastards!? Anything and anyone is preferable to this rotten mess we've allowed to happen.

when you make a law, it must be fair. otherwise, one could construe that it is racist. and therefore, unconstitutional.

[asian guy]

asian guy wrote:

christopher christie in "CYA" mode. cover your ass. and he better...
underneath it all, we know he wants to help the illegals stay here...by rallying them to go to new jersey to live, he has pretty much placed his political career in jeopardy.
the big question that comes to my mind now is - are there any laws to address what to do to people who come in on legal visa, but overstay?
anyone?

since nobody bothered to answer my question, I did my own research and came up with the answer to - what happens if you overstay your usa visa.
http://lawblog.jpmlaw.net/2008/02/17/so-youve...

christopher christie is guilty of aiding and abetting as defined in the following document..
http://www.immigrationprocon.org/documents/im...

furthermore, while it may be true that just being here in the united states on an expired visa would not be a felony offense - just a civil one.

in most cases, if someone is here illegally, and they are working, then, the fact that they are working could be a felony offense. if an illegal wrongly uses a social security number to obtain work, that is a felony. it's called immigration fraud. refer to the above document for more info.

the exact violation is - INA,§1546 of the U.S. Criminal Code.

[south jersey]

Christie is looking to run for governor in '09 without Corzine.

[asian guy]

south jersey wrote:

Christie is looking to run for governor in '09 without Corzine.

the voters should seriously consider the question - why vote for someone who advocates breaking the law?

[PSL]

asian guy wrote:

<quoted text>
the voters should seriously consider the question - why vote for someone who advocates breaking the law?

Certainly, but its seems most politicians these days advocate breaking the law.
For instance, one politician started breaking the law at the start of his career and still doing it to this day.
Bet ya can't guess who it is!!!!!!!!

[asian guy]

the people of new jersey are very lucky.

they know the true character of christopher christie rather than have to make a guess on his integrity when casting their vote for governor.

now, it is up to them to make the right choice.

[Kulturkampf]

asian guy wrote:

the people of new jersey are very lucky.
they know the true character of christopher christie rather than have to make a guess on his integrity when casting their vote for governor.
now, it is up to them to make the right choice.

I choose to throw you off the roof at the Sears Tower