Life-at-fertilization initiative has ...

Life-at-fertilization initiative has hope in Miss.

There are 2671 comments on the Centre Daily Times story from Oct 17, 2011, titled Life-at-fertilization initiative has hope in Miss.. In it, Centre Daily Times reports that:

In this June 6, 2011 file photo, Ezekiel Sowell, 7, right,of Tupelo, Miss., sings during a prayer rally for the Personhood Amendment at the Capitol in Jackson, Miss.

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zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2492 Mar 23, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> So what you are saying is that you would be against a poor woman being provided a small amount for clinically safe termination BUT you are ok with forcing her to have the child and have the taxpayers raise it for TENS of thousands of dollars with welfare,WIC,food stamps,free lunches,and public housing and all the other freebies that YOU entitled them to when you denied her decision to terminate. You can't see the whole picture with mule blinders on!
You should be terminated, than society won't have to suffer your vile ageist bigotry. Our society has adaquate resouces to provide for its children, children whom without there would be no society. What our society doen't need is violent elitist bigots such as yourself.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2493 Mar 23, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> So what you are saying is that you would be against a poor woman being provided a small amount for clinically safe termination BUT you are ok with forcing her to have the child and have the taxpayers raise it for TENS of thousands of dollars with welfare,WIC,food stamps,free lunches,and public housing and all the other freebies that YOU entitled them to when you denied her decision to terminate. You can't see the whole picture with mule blinders on!
No I am for executing (by holding back free support) those that can not take car of themselves. Death is better than taking handouts.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2494 Mar 23, 2013
"So it's better to just kil them so they won't inconvience the ret of us? "
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You can take care of them yourself stop forcing tax on the rest that are responsible for their actions.

Since: Feb 07

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#2495 Mar 23, 2013
anon wrote:
"So it's better to just kil them so they won't inconvience the ret of us? "
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You can take care of them yourself stop forcing tax on the rest that are responsible for their actions.
If women were taking responsibility for their actions, most unwanted pregnancies wouldn't occur.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2496 Mar 23, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> It would be better if there were more widespread usage of birth control and the MAP but there are those among us who are against that because in their feeble little minds they believe providing birth control is giving the green light for sex. Prevent it before it happens but if a pregnacy occurs,that decision to terminate is up to the mother,not you,not me,not those glassy eyed freaks that hang around the PP clinics.
Support is also not up to you. Let nature take its course. The problem with left and right is they only see black and white. It has been trained in public school especially with multiple choice tests. Get the responsibility of life to those that create it and stop using beliefs forced on others. Death happens to all it is just a matter of when.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#2497 Mar 23, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> It would be better if there were more widespread usage of birth control and the MAP but there are those among us who are against that because in their feeble little minds they believe providing birth control is giving the green light for sex. Prevent it before it happens but if a pregnacy occurs,that decision to terminate is up to the mother,not you,not me,not those glassy eyed freaks that hang around the PP clinics.
"It would be better if there were more widespread usage of birth control and the MAP but there are those among us who are against that because in their feeble little minds they believe providing birth control is giving the green light for sex. Prevent it before it happens"

I agree.

"that decision to terminate is up to the mother,not you,not me,not those glassy eyed freaks that hang around the PP clinics."

Unfortunately it is the law of the land now, but I have, and will continue, to work to change that.

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#2498 Mar 23, 2013
anon wrote:
"So it's better to just kil them so they won't inconvience the ret of us? "
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You can take care of them yourself stop forcing tax on the rest that are responsible for their actions.
So, in other words, your money is more important that human lives.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2499 Mar 23, 2013
"So, in other words, your money is more important that human lives. "
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My working to survive is more important than your survival.

“Define Necessity”

Since: Mar 13

FOR YOURSELF

#2500 Mar 23, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Zygote isn't a species..
I never said 'zygote' was a species, although every member of Earthen animal species starts out that way
zef wrote:
<quoted text>Only humans have human rights. Since human rights are inherent, humans have rights no matter how young they might be...
Only born humans have rights. It says so quite clearly in our Constitution. There are reasons for this... chiefly, that until a human is born, he or she cannot EXERCISE those rights, that no fetus is guaranteed to be born alive, and that each fetus is dependent on a born person for its means of survival. Women are people. ZEF's are potential people. People are born.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>] Your crass ageist bigotry is vulgar and obtuse..
Your insistence that wads of goo have rights equal to that of born humans, is far more vulgar. Your insistence that women are nothing more than brood sows, is far more obtuse.
zef wrote:
<quoted text>] Your vile ageist slurs are offensive and insulting.
Good. That was kinda the point.
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#2501 Mar 23, 2013
Susanm wrote:
<quoted text>

Unfortunately it is the law of the land now, but I have, and will continue, to work to change that.
How many babies that you "save" are you willing to keep while their mothers are out trying to make a living or finish school? Oh yeah, I forgot, that's someone else's job,isn't it. How many babies that you "save" with health problems are you willing to take in? Oh, that's someone else's problem too, right?

Since: Feb 07

Location hidden

#2502 Mar 23, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> How many babies that you "save" are you willing to keep while their mothers are out trying to make a living or finish school? Oh yeah, I forgot, that's someone else's job,isn't it. How many babies that you "save" with health problems are you willing to take in? Oh, that's someone else's problem too, right?
How many have you taken in?
Rod Knox

Tupelo, MS

#2503 Mar 23, 2013
If an anti-abortion bill and an end Obama-care bill were on the same ballot here in Mississippi the self righteous would each vote twice. The self righteous take such pleasure in looking down there noses at those less fortunate as they suffer. And those self righteous are so quick to condemn the less fortunate for demanding what is theirs or going elsewhere to find ethical people to deal with.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2504 Mar 23, 2013
dedbebbies wrote:
<quoted text>I never said 'zygote' was a species, although every member of Earthen animal species starts out that way
<quoted text>Only born humans have rights. It says so quite clearly in our Constitution. There are reasons for this... chiefly, that until a human is born, he or she cannot EXERCISE those rights, that no fetus is guaranteed to be born alive, and that each fetus is dependent on a born person for its means of survival. Women are people. ZEF's are potential people. People are born.
<quoted text>Your insistence that wads of goo have rights equal to that of born humans, is far more vulgar. Your insistence that women are nothing more than brood sows, is far more obtuse.
<quoted text>Good. That was kinda the point.
No. Every species of mammal is called zygote when their life begains. Just like every species of mammal is called adult at physical maturity. Zygotes of a specific species are different from zygotes of other species. Just like adults of a specific species are different from adults of other species. Pregnant humans are always gestating humans. Pregnant pigs are always gestating pigs. Our age has absolutely nothing to do with what species we are. Your vile ageist bigotry is boring and obtuse. Your crass ageist slurs are vulgar and insulting.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2505 Mar 23, 2013
Nothing in life and death is fair it all depends on survival abilities. Those that make children that they can not support die plain and simple. It is called evolution. If someone wants to have emotions and keep others alive let them have at it but when you force a emotional attitude on life it back fires. Many will suffer and die due to lack of resources. It is called reality.

"Companies like the U.S.-based Monsanto claim that their genetically modified (GM) seeds offer the most effective solution to feeding the world's growing population, but on the ground, many small-scale farmers are losing their land. Nowhere is the situation more desperate than in India, where an epidemic of farmer suicides has claimed over a quarter million lives. Every 30 minutes one farmer in India, deep in debt and unable to provide for his family, commits suicide. "
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2506 Mar 23, 2013
anon wrote:
Nothing in life and death is fair it all depends on survival abilities. Those that make children that they can not support die plain and simple. It is called evolution. If someone wants to have emotions and keep others alive let them have at it but when you force a emotional attitude on life it back fires. Many will suffer and die due to lack of resources. It is called reality.
"Companies like the U.S.-based Monsanto claim that their genetically modified (GM) seeds offer the most effective solution to feeding the world's growing population, but on the ground, many small-scale farmers are losing their land. Nowhere is the situation more desperate than in India, where an epidemic of farmer suicides has claimed over a quarter million lives. Every 30 minutes one farmer in India, deep in debt and unable to provide for his family, commits suicide. "
American women are more than capable of providing for their children. American women have abortions because fullfilling their hedonistic desires is more important to them than the lives of their children. Side-stepping the truth with your lame sories about farmers in india is dispicable and reprehensible. Why cook dinner for your children when you can kill them with abortions and have fancy dinners at restaraunts?
ThomasA

Birmingham, AL

#2507 Mar 23, 2013
zef wrote:
<quoted text> Side-stepping the truth with your lame sories about farmers in india is dispicable and reprehensible. Why cook dinner for your children when you can kill them with abortions and have fancy dinners at restaraunts?
LAME???? This post is lame!
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2508 Mar 23, 2013
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> LAME???? This post is lame!
How so? American women kill their babies with abortion because they prefer having wild orgies with multiple partners to having children and raising a family. Every half hour an american woman fulfills her hedonistic lusts by participating in an orgy.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2509 Mar 24, 2013
"American women are more than capable of providing for their children. "
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Now you are a bigot? People are individuals not defined abilities by class. The idea is not to have sex in the first place if you can not afford the consequences. Getting pregnant is not the only result.

"The dangerous strain of bacterial meningitis appears to be spreading through sexual encounters between men who meet through websites or smartphone apps, or at bars or parties, according to the City’s health department. More than half of the infected men have had HIV, a virus that attacks the immune system making infections more likely and more severe."

I have nothing against correcting mistakes or prevention. I have big problems with the government forcing me a person that plans for risks paying for people that do not plan for risks. National health insurance is socialism and that does not work.
zef

Los Angeles, CA

#2510 Mar 24, 2013
anon wrote:
"American women are more than capable of providing for their children. "
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Now you are a bigot? People are individuals not defined abilities by class. The idea is not to have sex in the first place if you can not afford the consequences. Getting pregnant is not the only result.
"The dangerous strain of bacterial meningitis appears to be spreading through sexual encounters between men who meet through websites or smartphone apps, or at bars or parties, according to the City’s health department. More than half of the infected men have had HIV, a virus that attacks the immune system making infections more likely and more severe."
I have nothing against correcting mistakes or prevention. I have big problems with the government forcing me a person that plans for risks paying for people that do not plan for risks. National health insurance is socialism and that does not work.
God didn't provide you with a reproductive system just so you can have your own private little death camp. If you choose to put people in your reproductive system you have every obligation to provide a safe environment for them untill they are capable of leaving on their own. And they have every right to be there until they are capable of leaving on their own.
anon

Tupelo, MS

#2511 Mar 24, 2013
"God didn't provide you with a reproductive system"
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That is right there is no God that provides. You have no obligations at all, only the will to survive. You can pass your genes on but it is not a requirement for your own survival.

Survival is more tolerable when you do good things. It be forced to do them does not provide the happiness it only makes life hell. Rights are given and enforced by government you have no natural rights as stated b the government. The creator could just be your parents.

I once had a Political Science professor who proudly stood left of Lenin on most social issues. But after volunteering at a hospital to treat crack babies, she grew to despise the addicts who were having 5-6 children, and abandoning them with all their health ailments for someone else to take care of. She suggested a policy that would give repeat offenders a choice: if you abandon more than two crack babies, you either go to jail or have your tubes tied. Reasonable, or tyrannical?

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