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Steelworkers on strike at Rotek Inc. in Aurora

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About 120 members of United Steelworkers Local 8565 employed at Rotek Inc. went on strike Friday, January 18, according to a company spokesperson.

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truth

Louisville, KY

#1912 Mar 27, 2013
The Principles
PT 1

A fundamental human right

1. The right to organize a free trade union is a fundamental, human right recognized and respected in
a democracy.


No coercion, intimidation or threats

2. Employees must be free to exercise the right to join a union or refrain from joining a union in an atmosphere free of fear, coercion, intimidation or threats. There is no free choice if a worker is afraid of
losing a job or losing benefits as a result of his or her choice, or is intimidated into making a choice not of one’s own making.

No repercussions from management or the union

3. Management must clearly articulate that if workers choose to unionize, there will be no negative
repercussions from the company. The USW must clearly articulate that if workers choose not to unionize, there will be no negative repercussions from the union. Both the company and the union will negotiate in good faith, and any failure to reach agreement will not be caused by bad faith negotiations.

No wage or benefit promises from management or the union

4. Management will clearly articulate that it does not promise increases in pay or benefits if workers choose not to unionize. The USW will clearly articulate that it does not promise increases in pay or benefits if workers choose to unionize.
truth

Louisville, KY

#1913 Mar 27, 2013
The Principles
PT 2

Equal access to the electorate

5. During the course of a union representational campaign, employees will have the opportunity to hear equally from both the union and management regarding this issue. There will be no mandatory meetings of employees on the issue of unionization unless the USW is invited to participate in the meetings. Written and oral communications must be equal. The union must be granted the same ability as the employer to post campaign material.

Disavow any threats from community allies

6. Management will explicitly disavow, reject and discourage messages from corporate and community groups that send the message that a union would jeopardize jobs. Likewise, the USW will explicitly disavow, reject and discourage messages from community groups that send the message that the company is not operating in a socially responsible way.

No disparaging the other party

7. Both the USW and management should acknowledge that the other party is acting in good faith with good intentions. Negative and disparaging remarks about the union or the company are not appropriate and not conducive to a spirit of mutual respect and harmony, and will not be made by either party.

Immediate Resolution

8. Any disagreements between the USW and management about the conduct of the organizing campaign, including allegations of discriminatory treatment or discipline relating to the union campaign, will be resolved immediately through an impartial, third party.
truth

Louisville, KY

#1914 Mar 27, 2013
The Principles
PT 3

Secret ballot election

9. The democratic right of workers to freely and collectively choose if they want to form their USW local
union is the workers’ First Amendment right. A secret ballot election incorporating these principles
is an acceptable method of determining union representation if principles two through six have been adhered to, and if there is no history of anti-union activities. The parties may select an alternative method on a case-by-case basis that reflects the best process for demonstrating employee wishes. If the parties cannot agree on specifics of the procedure, an arbitrator may decide.

Bargaining

10. If employees choose to unionize, the employer and union will engage in collective bargaining to achieve an agreement as soon as possible. The goal will be an agreement that takes into account the employer’s need to remain competitive; the dignity, respect, and value of every employee; the importance and value of full employee engagement and creative problem solving; and that provides a fair compensation system. The employer and the USW commit to full information sharing and joint creative problem solving. The employees will vote on whether to accept the agreement. Disagreements
between the union and company will be discussed in a respectful manner. If no agreement is reached within six months of recognition, the parties may mutually agree to mediation and/or interest arbitration to resolve any outstanding issues.

Partnership in the mission of the employer

11. The USW pledges that if the workers choose union representation, the union as an institution will be committed to the success of the employer and will encourage our members to engage in the employer’s successful achievement of its mission. The USW and the employer will work together in fulfilling the mission of the employer. The USW embraces a performance-based and participatory culture where the
union contributes to continual improvement of processes and shared responsibility for quality, innovation, flexibility and value.
duh

Louisville, KY

#1915 Mar 27, 2013
truth wrote:
The Principles
PT 3
Secret ballot election
9. The democratic right of workers to freely and collectively choose if they want to form their USW local
union is the workers’ First Amendment right. A secret ballot election incorporating these principles
is an acceptable method of determining union representation if principles two through six have been adhered to, and if there is no history of anti-union activities. The parties may select an alternative method on a case-by-case basis that reflects the best process for demonstrating employee wishes. If the parties cannot agree on specifics of the procedure, an arbitrator may decide.
Bargaining
10. If employees choose to unionize, the employer and union will engage in collective bargaining to achieve an agreement as soon as possible. The goal will be an agreement that takes into account the employer’s need to remain competitive; the dignity, respect, and value of every employee; the importance and value of full employee engagement and creative problem solving; and that provides a fair compensation system. The employer and the USW commit to full information sharing and joint creative problem solving. The employees will vote on whether to accept the agreement. Disagreements
between the union and company will be discussed in a respectful manner. If no agreement is reached within six months of recognition, the parties may mutually agree to mediation and/or interest arbitration to resolve any outstanding issues.
Partnership in the mission of the employer
11. The USW pledges that if the workers choose union representation, the union as an institution will be committed to the success of the employer and will encourage our members to engage in the employer’s successful achievement of its mission. The USW and the employer will work together in fulfilling the mission of the employer. The USW embraces a performance-based and participatory culture where the
union contributes to continual improvement of processes and shared responsibility for quality, innovation, flexibility and value.
Be thankful you have a job
truth

Louisville, KY

#1916 Mar 27, 2013
duh wrote:
<quoted text>Be thankful you have a job
posted by Mike Belew
Wire horseman

Cincinnati, OH

#1917 Mar 27, 2013
No one wants this. Open your eyes. I hope they find out who is behind all this (we know, but does management?) and send you on your way. You don't deserve to work here. Go somewhere else and sweat for 10 dollars less on the hour and see how good you had it here. But i personally hope you get yours in the end for biting the hand that feeds you. When an arm or a leg becomes so infected, sometimes it needs cut off to save the rest of the body. You are that cancer, and you need cut off and thrown away, like a worthless piece of meat. Thats what you are.
THE UNION WILL NEVER BE IN FLORENCE. Wake up! Well let me tell you that my leg was infested and they were going to cut it off but thanks to the support I got from Jim and Kevin and Danny and my rotek family I will keep it for now this is not about them it is about what might or will happen so be careful who you wish bad things on sometimes it will bite you in the ass.As far as tater he can handle his own I respect him for what he is I have seen him handle himself fine as far as Chris Orth quit pissing on my tires
truth

Louisville, KY

#1918 Mar 27, 2013
Wire horseman wrote:
No one wants this. Open your eyes. I hope they find out who is behind all this (we know, but does management?) and send you on your way. You don't deserve to work here. Go somewhere else and sweat for 10 dollars less on the hour and see how good you had it here. But i personally hope you get yours in the end for biting the hand that feeds you. When an arm or a leg becomes so infected, sometimes it needs cut off to save the rest of the body. You are that cancer, and you need cut off and thrown away, like a worthless piece of meat. Thats what you are.
THE UNION WILL NEVER BE IN FLORENCE. Wake up! Well let me tell you that my leg was infested and they were going to cut it off but thanks to the support I got from Jim and Kevin and Danny and my rotek family I will keep it for now this is not about them it is about what might or will happen so be careful who you wish bad things on sometimes it will bite you in the ass.As far as tater he can handle his own I respect him for what he is I have seen him handle himself fine as far as Chris Orth quit pissing on my tires
sorry about your leg, Jason Belew. maybe you should keep your dog tide up!
Ladies

Louisville, KY

#1919 Mar 27, 2013
Messing with people's cars is a bitch move. Anyone messing with cars is a coward and a bitch. I hope someone catches you in the act and gives you what you have coming. Stay classy bitches. Way to win people over.
underdog

United States

#1920 Mar 27, 2013
Dr t please cut our wages the assembly would work for $15.00 HR./ vtl drill gearcut grind would work for $18.00 HR/ integrex and maintenance $20.00 HR. The economy is bad in northern Kentucky mazak mubea all took pay cuts.we have to do our part to keep Rotek going.
He said she said

Louisville, KY

#1921 Mar 27, 2013
All of the he said she said stuff needs to stop. Don't go blaming people for stuff when you don't have the facts or evidence. I know and a bunch of others know Chris Orth wouldn't ever do something like that to anyone. He is not that kind of person. People knows he drops his kids off at a sitter in the morning before he comes to work and gets there at 645 every morning. So don't blame him for anything if u don't have evidence or proof. Just like people blame him for all the union stuff going on. It wasn't just him is was a lot of us that talked him into calling for details that not just plant 40 wanted but plant 20 also. So I say if anything happens to Chris's car or anyone else's from now on the police will be involved and charges will be filed. So you might want to keep that in mind next time you go blaming people before you know anything. So thanks for reading this post...
man up

United States

#1922 Mar 27, 2013
Maybe the police should be called. For all the drugs pushed threw the shop. " methadones" we all know who you are. Union or no union Jim this shit must stop
Robtek

North Ridgeville, OH

#1923 Mar 27, 2013
"Duh" wrote "Be thankful you have a job".

If you are so grateful to Rotek for having a job, why don't you volunteer for a paycut ?

The union proposed a wage freeze, but personally if they can't show proof of losing money, I will definitely be voting "NO" for that bullshit. Actually I will vote "NO" on anything that is put out there. That's how loyal I am.

Its easy for these salary idiots to show their loyalty to the company, but how loyal would they be if they were asked to take a paycut ?!?!?
Robtek

North Ridgeville, OH

#1925 Mar 27, 2013
underdog wrote:
Dr t please cut our wages the assembly would work for $15.00 HR./ vtl drill gearcut grind would work for $18.00 HR/ integrex and maintenance $20.00 HR. The economy is bad in northern Kentucky mazak mubea all took pay cuts.we have to do our part to keep Rotek going.
The day every salary person is willing to take cuts to keep this company afloat, will be the day that I would consider doing the same. Until then I will be happy standing in front of a barrel. I will only begin to look for another job when my unemployment benefits run out.
Reality check

Fremont, OH

#1926 Mar 27, 2013
Are you all for real? Have you been living under a rock for the last decade? It's called being more productive and cost effective. Wanna make the big bucks, earn it like the rest of us that do, figure out how to do more, become better machine operators and produce more, reduce costs. Don't expect to just show up and get a check, and get a raise just "because". ThyssenKrupp does not owe you a job.
ThyssenKrupp is a global company, Rotek Aurora is one entity of that global company. TK has "more capacity" than orders to fill all the machines in all of their facilites, so guess what, your giving up your jobs by not going back to the table and getting back to work. They will take your work elsewhere. Do you speak chinese, cause that's where your job is going and if you want it back, then you'll have to move over there, cause it ain't coming back.
TK has what are called "shareholders". These are the people that want a return on the investment that they have in the company, and some of those investors back your 401K's.
Instead of sitting out front freezing your asses off, go out in the community and see what other simular jobs are paying out there, it won't be what you were making. If so, go for it. Also, go look at the machines and facilities for those other jobs, they most likely won't be as nice, or as new and as safe as what you have been working with.
I was SteelWorker member in the past, guess what, they did not protect my job. It's gone, and the regional got his feather in his cap. Who did it help? No one except the Chinese.
Something to Remember

United States

#1927 Mar 27, 2013
Reality check wrote:
Are you all for real? Have you been living under a rock for the last decade? It's called being more productive and cost effective. Wanna make the big bucks, earn it like the rest of us that do, figure out how to do more, become better machine operators and produce more, reduce costs. Don't expect to just show up and get a check, and get a raise just "because". ThyssenKrupp does not owe you a job.
ThyssenKrupp is a global company, Rotek Aurora is one entity of that global company. TK has "more capacity" than orders to fill all the machines in all of their facilites, so guess what, your giving up your jobs by not going back to the table and getting back to work. They will take your work elsewhere. Do you speak chinese, cause that's where your job is going and if you want it back, then you'll have to move over there, cause it ain't coming back.
TK has what are called "shareholders". These are the people that want a return on the investment that they have in the company, and some of those investors back your 401K's.
Instead of sitting out front freezing your asses off, go out in the community and see what other simular jobs are paying out there, it won't be what you were making. If so, go for it. Also, go look at the machines and facilities for those other jobs, they most likely won't be as nice, or as new and as safe as what you have been working with.
I was SteelWorker member in the past, guess what, they did not protect my job. It's gone, and the regional got his feather in his cap. Who did it help? No one except the Chinese.
Management
reality checker

New York, NY

#1928 Mar 27, 2013
Reality check wrote:
Are you all for real? Have you been living under a rock for the last decade? It's called being more productive and cost effective. Wanna make the big bucks, earn it like the rest of us that do, figure out how to do more, become better machine operators and produce more, reduce costs. Don't expect to just show up and get a check, and get a raise just "because". ThyssenKrupp does not owe you a job.
ThyssenKrupp is a global company, Rotek Aurora is one entity of that global company. TK has "more capacity" than orders to fill all the machines in all of their facilites, so guess what, your giving up your jobs by not going back to the table and getting back to work. They will take your work elsewhere. Do you speak chinese, cause that's where your job is going and if you want it back, then you'll have to move over there, cause it ain't coming back.
TK has what are called "shareholders". These are the people that want a return on the investment that they have in the company, and some of those investors back your 401K's.
Instead of sitting out front freezing your asses off, go out in the community and see what other simular jobs are paying out there, it won't be what you were making. If so, go for it. Also, go look at the machines and facilities for those other jobs, they most likely won't be as nice, or as new and as safe as what you have been working with.
I was SteelWorker member in the past, guess what, they did not protect my job. It's gone, and the regional got his feather in his cap. Who did it help? No one except the Chinese.
Is that a threat? Or facts?
Say what

Uniontown, OH

#1929 Mar 27, 2013
Reality check wrote:
Are you all for real? Have you been living under a rock for the last decade? It's called being more productive and cost effective. Wanna make the big bucks, earn it like the rest of us that do, figure out how to do more, become better machine operators and produce more, reduce costs. Don't expect to just show up and get a check, and get a raise just "because". ThyssenKrupp does not owe you a job.
ThyssenKrupp is a global company, Rotek Aurora is one entity of that global company. TK has "more capacity" than orders to fill all the machines in all of their facilites, so guess what, your giving up your jobs by not going back to the table and getting back to work. They will take your work elsewhere. Do you speak chinese, cause that's where your job is going and if you want it back, then you'll have to move over there, cause it ain't coming back.
TK has what are called "shareholders". These are the people that want a return on the investment that they have in the company, and some of those investors back your 401K's.
Instead of sitting out front freezing your asses off, go out in the community and see what other simular jobs are paying out there, it won't be what you were making. If so, go for it. Also, go look at the machines and facilities for those other jobs, they most likely won't be as nice, or as new and as safe as what you have been working with.
I was SteelWorker member in the past, guess what, they did not protect my job. It's gone, and the regional got his feather in his cap. Who did it help? No one except the Chinese.
Cost reduction. Most of you in salary idea of cost reduction is eliminating a worthy step in the process that ends up f$cking the product up in the end. I have some cost reduction for you. How about taking away the coffee,tea hot chocolate they give you people for free. We're talking saving money to save jobs then every bit counts. Why is it rotek has a almost 1-1 ratio for salary to hourly employee. Any money making corporation will tell you this is a no no. Should be at least 1-5. I will start doing more than just my job when you f-cks start doing your jobs. How many prints that hit the floor that are not correct and the parts would be scrap if it was not for operators pointing out that yes once again you have done it wrong. if they send out our jobs to china guess what that's where your job is going too. Do you think there are not engineers,plant managers foremen there. And guess what they work for less than you too. I would like to see any one of you take a pay cut and say what else can I do to make the company money. Not one of you would do it. So shut your mouth. Get back to your computer and act like you have something to do.
Reality check

Fremont, OH

#1930 Mar 28, 2013
Say what wrote:
<quoted text>
Cost reduction. Most of you in salary idea of cost reduction is eliminating a worthy step in the process that ends up f$cking the product up in the end. I have some cost reduction for you. How about taking away the coffee,tea hot chocolate they give you people for free. We're talking saving money to save jobs then every bit counts. Why is it rotek has a almost 1-1 ratio for salary to hourly employee. Any money making corporation will tell you this is a no no. Should be at least 1-5. I will start doing more than just my job when you f-cks start doing your jobs. How many prints that hit the floor that are not correct and the parts would be scrap if it was not for operators pointing out that yes once again you have done it wrong. if they send out our jobs to china guess what that's where your job is going too. Do you think there are not engineers,plant managers foremen there. And guess what they work for less than you too. I would like to see any one of you take a pay cut and say what else can I do to make the company money. Not one of you would do it. So shut your mouth. Get back to your computer and act like you have something to do.
I can not attest to what the salary and management are like, cause I'm not part of the organization. Also, are you trying to tell me that their are 100+ management for this operation. You full of shit on that matter. I drove by for the last few weeks and saw your sorry asses out there on your picket line.
I've read through this blog and can not see where there is any solid reason for your cause. Let me ask this question, did you not have a raise over the last contract? Have you had to pay more for insurance every year since your last contract, I'm sure you did. TK had a management salary freeze for the last couple of years, and guess what, eveyone had had to pay more for insurance over the last couple of decades. Don't blame the company, blame the insurance companies. Again, your living under a rock to think that your the only one who has had to give more and work for the same wage or less or has to pay more for insurance.

This sounds more like you belong to the other USW -(United Sniveling Whiners), not the United Steel Workers. Haven't enough jobs been lost? Be part of the solution, not more of the problem.
truth

Louisville, KY

#1931 Mar 28, 2013
Reality check wrote:
<quoted text>
I can not attest to what the salary and management are like, cause I'm not part of the organization. Also, are you trying to tell me that their are 100+ management for this operation. You full of shit on that matter. I drove by for the last few weeks and saw your sorry asses out there on your picket line.
I've read through this blog and can not see where there is any solid reason for your cause. Let me ask this question, did you not have a raise over the last contract? Have you had to pay more for insurance every year since your last contract, I'm sure you did. TK had a management salary freeze for the last couple of years, and guess what, eveyone had had to pay more for insurance over the last couple of decades. Don't blame the company, blame the insurance companies. Again, your living under a rock to think that your the only one who has had to give more and work for the same wage or less or has to pay more for insurance.
This sounds more like you belong to the other USW -(United Sniveling Whiners), not the United Steel Workers. Haven't enough jobs been lost? Be part of the solution, not more of the problem.
Dr T, Haven't enough jobs been lost? Be part of the solution, not more of the problem.
Say what

Uniontown, OH

#1932 Mar 28, 2013
Reality check wrote:
<quoted text>
I can not attest to what the salary and management are like, cause I'm not part of the organization. Also, are you trying to tell me that their are 100+ management for this operation. You full of shit on that matter. I drove by for the last few weeks and saw your sorry asses out there on your picket line.
I've read through this blog and can not see where there is any solid reason for your cause. Let me ask this question, did you not have a raise over the last contract? Have you had to pay more for insurance every year since your last contract, I'm sure you did. TK had a management salary freeze for the last couple of years, and guess what, eveyone had had to pay more for insurance over the last couple of decades. Don't blame the company, blame the insurance companies. Again, your living under a rock to think that your the only one who has had to give more and work for the same wage or less or has to pay more for insurance.
This sounds more like you belong to the other USW -(United Sniveling Whiners), not the United Steel Workers. Haven't enough jobs been lost? Be part of the solution, not more of the problem.
So if your not part of the organization your some blow hole rattling off his opinion. Again shut your mouth. No there is not 100 salary people here there is 81 at aurora plant to 113 hourly. You think your intelligent on the matter is that good business management? I am part of the problem because I manufactor the product for this company and am not willing to take a pay cut. What's wrong with this picture? So we are whiners because we won't give back what we have earned over many years of hard work and long hours. Your right shame on us. Your an idiot. Learn the facks before you run your mouth. We're not asking for raises. They want to take everything that we have worked for over the last 5 years and then some. Yes i have got a raise over the last 5 years but only enough to cover the insurance premiums. So is it really a raise? Its a cost of living raise that gets absorbed by the company to cover what there increase will be. Greed is killing jobs in America not the workers. Not all salary have been on wage freezes. And many recieved raise this year. Your just another union basher. You don't know the facts or what's really going on in this situation. It would be best for you to drive by don't wave and carry on. We will do just that with our fight against this greedy organization.

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