stop the georgia ebt program/credit to poor

[lighteredknot]

Reality wrote:

We need to raise taxes AND cut entitlement programs drastically.
Might as well piss everyone off doing the exact opposite of what we have done for the last 12+ years

I would be inclined to support this if obama would stop his wild spending on his pet projects like Solyndra, and offer his plan to pay off the debt he has incurred, plus make everyone living in America share the tax increase, not just a few of us. The problem we have now is so many pay no taxes, from GM to those making below certain income levels. Everyone should pay for the privilege of living in America.

[lighteredknot]

60 Minutes reported Illinois is a broken state. The state most in debt other than California. Illinois state troopers can't even charge gas for their cars anymore, medicaid is so deep in debt it will probably never be able to pay their way out of it, they are currently spending twice the amount they are taking in, some state legislators have no offices because the state can't even pay the rent for their state offices. The obama type spending in Illinois has caught up with them, providing freebees for his supporters will cause the same problems with the rest of America. Stop the spending, pay off the debts before it is to late.

[Mr Sunshine]

lighteredknot wrote:

60 Minutes reported Illinois is a broken state. The state most in debt other than California. Illinois state troopers can't even charge gas for their cars anymore, medicaid is so deep in debt it will probably never be able to pay their way out of it, they are currently spending twice the amount they are taking in, some state legislators have no offices because the state can't even pay the rent for their state offices. The obama type spending in Illinois has caught up with them, providing freebees for his supporters will cause the same problems with the rest of America. Stop the spending, pay off the debts before it is to late.

Happy Thanksgiving!

You vicious, racist pig.

[lighteredknot]

Ford Dealer's Report - From Tom Selkis'(Latham Ford) Facebook - True story yesterday at the dealership.

"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.

One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit application with her he noticed she was on social security disability.

He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work.
She said well I'm really not. I could work if I wanted to, but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).
She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check. And she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent.
Oh yeah, and 250 minutes free on her phone.
That is just south of $3500.00 a month.
When she was working, she was taking home about $330.00 per week.

Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work.
If you multiply that by millions of people, you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country.
Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario, we are finished.

The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.

She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00/month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

[Ashley W]

You should really check out this site and look at the true statistics. There are about twice as many african americans on food stamps as there are hispanics, and there about 3x as many hispanics on it as whites, and about 10x as many whites as asians. And looking at the stats about 70% of all african americans in the US receive benefits. So get your facts right!!!

PROTOTYPE1925 wrote:

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WELL I HOPE YOU HAVE MOR KNOWLEDGE IN THE FIELD OF BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION THAN THIS SUBJECT. IGNORANCE AND STUPIDITY IS WHY THE WORLD IS SO MESSED UP. THERE ARE MORE WHITES ON WELFARE. AS FOR THE STATISTICS FOR GEORGIA WHITES AND HISPANICS USE THE FOOD STAMP PROGRAM SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN BLACKS, EVEN IN AREAS WHERE THE BLACK COMMUNITY DOUBLES AND EVEN TRIPLES THAT OF OTHER COMMUNITIES. SO BEFORE YOU SPREAD YOUR IGNORANCE, KNOW THE FACTS AND TRY NOT TO BE SUCH AN IDIOT.

[Grob Hahn]

lighteredknot wrote:

Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario, we are finished.

In most cases where something close to real socialism or communism is gains control in a capitalist society, they put their family and cronies into high places then drive the economy into the ground fast. Their ideals can't exist without a conservative infrastructure for very long. I'm not saying it's impossible, but they don't talk much about making money, so how will they pay for all the stuff they want to give away?
Grobbbbbbbbb

[lighteredknot]

Grob Hahn wrote:

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In most cases where something close to real socialism or communism is gains control in a capitalist society, they put their family and cronies into high places then drive the economy into the ground fast. Their ideals can't exist without a conservative infrastructure for very long. I'm not saying it's impossible, but they don't talk much about making money, so how will they pay for all the stuff they want to give away?
Grobbbbbbbbb

This is the fallacy of the current occupier of the WH's economic policy. He fails to see how the direction of his leadership is taking us into a 2nd rate country or he does and this is his goal. His failed leadership plus his demented spending policy will develop such a poor country so in debt our grandchildren will never be able to pay their way debt clear. Economist predict soon most citizens now working will throw up their hands in disgust and surrender to the overwhelming debt and join the "Get a government check obama socialist bandwagon", there by increasing the national debt ex-potently at a rate even hard core socialist deem unbelievable. Bless his little heart.

[Jules]

East point ga wrote:

Its not only African Americans. The hispanics get more than enough. Not all people who get food stamps have a mercedes or a car at all. There are really more people who are own food stamps that don't want to be. Sometimes in order to get ahead on somethings you have to take advantage of your resources. I can say maybe if these companies start paying more. The average job in georgia pays 8hr for 13hr work. I'm glad to say that I had to pay most of my way through college and yes I got on Food stamps to help me. I had a child in college. Lets face it things happen. My son was a blessing. I am proud to say that I'm 25 years old with a good job and I'm about to purchase a house. Things come easier for other communities. I went through all types of things. There are some people that just abuse the system. The truth id though the system has abused us and still do. Does that make it right ? No. So before we come down on a group think about everything. I'm sorry your store is going through that. Just make sure you don't own a store that is over priced because it's in a African American Neighborhood. The gas prices has nothing to do with us. Go talk to the people who is spending BILLIONS of dollars a year on War.

SO not an exclusive racial thing. But I am annoyed that the food stamp allowance is more than my grocery budget.

[Jules]

lighteredknot wrote:

Ford Dealer's Report - From Tom Selkis'(Latham Ford) Facebook - True story yesterday at the dealership.
"I'll try to make this as short and to the point as I can.
One of my salesmen here had a woman in his office yesterday wanting to lease a brand new Focus. As he was reviewing her credit application with her he noticed she was on social security disability.
He said to her you don't look like you're disabled and unable to work.
She said well I'm really not. I could work if I wanted to, but I make more now than I did when I was working and got hurt (non-disabling injury).
She said the gov't sends her $1500.00 a month in 1 check. And she gets $700.00 a month on an EBT card (food stamps), and $800.00 a month for rent.
Oh yeah, and 250 minutes free on her phone.
That is just south of $3500.00 a month.
When she was working, she was taking home about $330.00 per week.
Do the math and then ask yourself why the hell should she go back to work.
If you multiply that by millions of people, you start to realize the scope of the problem we face as a country.
Once the socialists have 51% of the population in that same scenario, we are finished.
The question is when do we cross that threshold if we haven't already, and there are not enough people working to pay enough taxes to support the non-working people? Riots?? Be prepared to protect your homes.
She didn't lease the Focus here because the dealer down the road beat our deal by $10.00/month. Glad to know she is so frugal with her hard earned money."

Disabity fraud is rampant. It is the goal of many people to "get on the draw". My favorite was a 30 something chronic back issues man(no surgeries) with 4 little kids.....your low back works well enough to get it on to make 4 kids( now also dependent because their dad is dependent.). Generation after generation endoctrinated into this lifestyle.

[lighteredknot]

A guy I know went to sign up for his SS last week, and he said half the people in the waiting room were under 40 years of age signing up for SS disability. The number of people now getting SS disability is alarming, and is criminal.

[Jules]

This was Clinton's "welfare reform". He got people off welfare onto disability. Disability gets paid out of social security. Then they get Medicare and Medicaid on top of it! When will people learn the government is not a bottomless pit of money. It's math, not magic. I guess it will have to go the way of telecommunications bubble(burst) and real estate(burst) social programs will have to burst to get anyone's attention.

[Ms Manners]

Jules wrote:

This was Clinton's "welfare reform". He got people off welfare onto disability. Disability gets paid out of social security. Then they get Medicare and Medicaid on top of it! When will people learn the government is not a bottomless pit of money. It's math, not magic. I guess it will have to go the way of telecommunications bubble(burst) and real estate(burst) social programs will have to burst to get anyone's attention.

The states with the highest rate of smokers are in the south.

[Jules]

Ms Manners wrote:

<quoted text>
The states with the highest rate of smokers are in the south.

Great random fact, thanks.

[Grob Hahn]

Jules wrote:

This was Clinton's "welfare reform". He got people off welfare onto disability. Disability gets paid out of social security. Then they get Medicare and Medicaid on top of it! When will people learn the government is not a bottomless pit of money. It's math, not magic. I guess it will have to go the way of telecommunications bubble(burst) and real estate(burst) social programs will have to burst to get anyone's attention.

I find it hard to blame people like this. They wouldn't exist if not for the system. That kernel fact seems to fly by with little notice these days. I blame the politicians who use these people for votes. Not the stupid people who vote for them. Attracting a following of stupid people is easy.
Grobbbbbb

[BS IS Called]

Grob Hahn wrote:

<quoted text>
I find it hard to blame people like this. They wouldn't exist if not for the system. That kernel fact seems to fly by with little notice these days. I blame the politicians who use these people for votes. Not the stupid people who vote for them. Attracting a following of stupid people is easy.
Grobbbbbb

Take the "nut" from California as an example. He follows some of you guys to no end.

[Filistyne]

Jules wrote:

<quoted text>
Great random fact, thanks.

Off topic of course, but that's what we keep the sofa trawler here for. Without him we'd be stuck with discussing the issue that the thread was created to deal with. He's our absurdity relief.

[Smarter than crackers]

Filistyne wrote:

<quoted text>Off topic of course, but that's what we keep the sofa trawler here for. Without him we'd be stuck with discussing the issue that the thread was created to deal with. He's our absurdity relief.

Actually, I'm the "let's trash black people and slobber our hatred all over the internet and pat each on the back" relief.

[lighteredknot]

BS IS Called wrote:

<quoted text>
Take the "nut" from California as an example. He follows some of you guys to no end.

Spot on, there are leaders and followers. Some are followers because they believe in the cause of their leader, but the nut is a follower because of his mental condition. Bless his little heart.

[icouldusesomehel p]

lighteredknot wrote:

<quoted text>
Spot on, there are leaders and followers. Some are followers because they believe in the cause of their leader, but the nut is a follower because of his mental condition. Bless his little heart.

Actually, no. I follow you because I hate the way you think. You're a racist, slobbering fool and no matter what you and your foul hillbilly friends may say, your words need to be attacked at every turn. I'm here to disrupt, expose your hatred and make you give up. There is no place for you in the modern world you sick, racist POS.

[pancho gracious]

and there are slaves to government like 90% of blacks and alot of whites. we need to raise cotton again to get these maggots off the porch and out of the bed.