lyons, il politics
Clear the air guy

Chicago, IL

#3346 Apr 19, 2011
Elizabeth Swann wrote:
How inconvenient for Orland Park. No convenient adjacent hole to dump the contaminated soil into. And this site has just one of the 29 chemicals of concern found in the TIF 4 site. Of course IEPA assigned Stan Black, one of their high rent district personnel to this site. Remember him well from Timber Trails. World of difference from what we have in Lyons letting the volatile chemicals - including this one - evaporate just north of the ball field until they reach levels "safe" to dump next door. Being somewhat heavier than normal air, you do the odds on possible exposures to children, their folks and anyone parking north of the Village Hall.

http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/4833804-522...

The plan for the Lyons dump - oops, cleanup - was set in motion long before UCP came on the scene.
Here is a link to some interesting information from the National Cancer Institute.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/...

Swann, how does this list of chemicals compare to the 29 chemicals in the TIF 4 site you are supposedly so worried about?

Does tobacco smoke contain harmful chemicals?
Yes. Tobacco smoke contains chemicals that are harmful to both smokers and nonsmokers. Breathing even a little tobacco smoke can be harmful (1–3).

Of the more than 7,000 chemicals in tobacco smoke, at least 250 are known to be harmful, including hydrogen cyanide, carbon monoxide, and ammonia (1, 4).

Among the 250 known harmful chemicals in tobacco smoke, at least 69 can cause cancer. These cancer-causing chemicals include the following (1, 4):

Arsenic
Benzene
Beryllium (a toxic metal)
1,3–Butadiene (a hazardous gas)
Cadmium (a toxic metal)
Chromium (a metallic element)
Ethylene oxide
Nickel (a metallic element)
Polonium-210 (a radioactive chemical element)
Vinyl chloride
Other toxic chemicals in tobacco smoke are suspected to cause cancer, including the following (3):

Formaldehyde
Benzo[α]pyrene
Toluene

How can you possibly expect anyone to take your concerns about environmental pollution seriously when you routinely pay money to pollute your own body?

How about the real cost to our healthcare system caused by the effects of smoking and also second hand smoke? Do you have a metric for that? Here is a link to a CDC article that should be of interest to you. Why don't you put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Clear the air guy

Chicago, IL

#3347 Apr 19, 2011
Swann here is the link promised in the last posting.

http://www.cdc.gov/chronicdisease/resources/p...

Give it some serious thought before it's too late.
anonymous

Forest Park, IL

#3348 Apr 19, 2011
There are a number of us who read this regularly and appreciate the time and effort Ms Swann takes to keep us informed--thank you, Ms Swann. Don't let these overgrown schoolyard bullies bother you!
Concerned Resident

Berwyn, IL

#3349 Apr 19, 2011
Well now that the UCP will be in charge of Village Government we won't have to worry because they will do the right thing with the pile of cancer causing dirt.

What's the plan UCP? What's the plan?

I'll take a seat over here with my box of popcorn and watch this one?

Don't forget ladies and gentlemen... Some of our current and past trustees, along with Visk were rediculed for that pile of cancer causing fumes. Were they right all along?

Are we going to dump it in the hole Mr. Getty? Are you going to allow that to happen?
lizard lover

Chicago, IL

#3350 Apr 19, 2011
anonymous wrote:
There are a number of us who read this regularly and appreciate the time and effort Ms Swann takes to keep us informed--thank you, Ms Swann. Don't let these overgrown schoolyard bullies bother you!
WOW! Anonymous, that's quite an imaginative title for a message board where everyone is using a pseudonym. As I said before you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all the time.
Elizabeth Swann

United States

#3351 Apr 20, 2011
Information on new CPS chief courtesy of Eric Zorn. Reference to his being a Borad graduate by last commenter is explained in previous post of "Got Dough" article published in Dissent.

http://blogs.chicagotribune.com/news_columnis...
Elizabeth Swann

United States

#3352 Apr 20, 2011
Concerned Resident wrote:
Well now that the UCP will be in charge of Village Government we won't have to worry because they will do the right thing with the pile of cancer causing dirt.
What's the plan UCP? What's the plan?
I'll take a seat over here with my box of popcorn and watch this one?
Don't forget ladies and gentlemen... Some of our current and past trustees, along with Visk were rediculed for that pile of cancer causing fumes. Were they right all along?
Are we going to dump it in the hole Mr. Getty? Are you going to allow that to happen?
Deal was already cut between our attorney and the low rent section of the IEPA BOL. Long before UCP had any info. Only info available to public is that submitted to IEPA. Hard to get info that hasn't been submitted to IEPA or other govt agencies when the lawyer has designated it "Attorney Work Product" to shield it from discovery under FOIA, inserted himself & his firm as the conduit between the IEPA and environmental consultant and the VOL, and conducted all discussion in Exec Session without regard to OMA.

But in the interest of Sunshine, will see if I can post pdf files obtained under FOIA from IEPA, whose lawyers know FOIA & attorney conduct/civil procedure laws and when privilege can and can not be invoked, on blog so you can see for yourself what BB&J, Ancel Glink and the low rent reps of the IEPA cooked up.

Do not forget that the State of Illinois had ~$9 million of skin in the game outstanding from the $12 million dollar Illinois Pollution Prevention money advanced to Vondra to purchase the quarry. It's bigger than all of us, UCP included, to quote a wise individual.
Elizabeth Swann

United States

#3353 Apr 20, 2011
Thank you Phil Kadner and today's Southtown Star for this article that explains the Prohibited Acts law in context. Certain parties might be well advised to take note of the section about interest in work and contracts; others, the OMA agenda requirements.

http://southtownstar.suntimes.com/news/kadner...

BTW, leaving the mics on after the meeting, after the Village President had signalled you to cut them off, MR. IT Guy, could be interpreted by some as insubordination. We all heard it who stayed tuned to Channel 6. Sorry, Those Who Love Open Mics, be they in police cruisers or conference rooms, curses, foiled again. Maybe the Pres & Clerk should have their offices swept as well.
Itsallintheopenn ow

Berwyn, IL

#3354 Apr 20, 2011
Elizabeth Swann wrote:
BTW, leaving the mics on after the meeting, after the Village President had signalled you to cut them off, MR. IT Guy, could be interpreted by some as insubordination. We all heard it who stayed tuned to Channel 6. Sorry, Those Who Love Open Mics, be they in police cruisers or conference rooms, curses, foiled again. Maybe the Pres & Clerk should have their offices swept as well.
In the transparent and open government installed by ucp the fear of open mikes or listening devices, should not be a factor,unless the resident driven party is only for chosen residents.
we hear you

Forest Park, IL

#3355 Apr 20, 2011
Believe it or Not

Forest Park, IL

#3356 Apr 20, 2011
Phantom

Forest Park, IL

#3357 Apr 21, 2011
lizard lover wrote:
<quoted text>
WOW! Anonymous, that's quite an imaginative title for a message board where everyone is using a pseudonym. As I said before you can fool some of the people some of the time, but not all of the people all the time.
Lizard you should step away from the keyboerd and go back to the rock you crawled out from under. You are nothing but an antaginist that has no positive input. I think that you are lower than pond scumb.
Elizabeth Swann

United States

#3358 Apr 21, 2011
Not really politics, but not good news - and maybe explanation of sorts - as to why some of us now experience flooding during heavy storms, from today's Trib:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-m...
Elizabeth Swann

United States

#3359 Apr 21, 2011
For those who would give out contracts, an example of lawyers finding the "fight side" of any situation, from the Sun Times:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/4935709-418/new-...

The people of Lyons should be able to say "Not so fast; we are entitled to be informed" before any back door, executive session contract deals for positions like manager, attorney, director of public works, etc., are considered. This article shows "mistakes" probably will be costly for taxpayers.

We already understand from over a decade of past history that expecting fair play for a new incoming administration is futile. Hopefully, the lame ducks will not have an opportunity to advance their agenda of scorched earth in the few days left to them.
TRIPOD

Berwyn, IL

#3360 Apr 21, 2011
Question wrote...How much does ALEX make?
TRIPOD

Berwyn, IL

#3361 Apr 21, 2011
HAPPY GOOD FRIDAY and HAPPY EASTER to all of the LAID-OFF MEN at the PUBLIC WORKS DEPT.
Concerned Resident

Berwyn, IL

#3362 Apr 21, 2011
Since so many were against the Village layoffs, is Getty going to be hiring these people back?
Elizabeth Swann

Benton Harbor, MI

#3363 Apr 22, 2011
Sad commentary from today's Sun Times. Should be no surprise, though, to Lyons citizens that the State is asleep at the switch when it comes to keeping track of state grant money. Years ago it told a Lyons citizen who inquired about the grants in triplicate for the GWMS playing field, that it didn't keep tabs on where the money went and how it was used. Similar to the judge in Florida who stated in open court: "Surely you don't expect me to READ the orders I sign?"

http://www.suntimes.com/4956275-417/state-rec...

(The answer to the judge's question was: "For the $100,000+ you are being paid, yes I do."

Perhaps we need a freeze on all state grants until the tracking and accountability problems have been resolved. Might even help with balancing the state budget. Just saying...
Elizabeth Swann

Benton Harbor, MI

#3364 Apr 22, 2011
Link to thought-provoking article furnished by commenter to Sun Times editorial on new CPS chief. Thank you, Rosaleee.

http://seattleducation2010.wordpress.com/2011...

I especially wondered if the part about superintendent engrossed in blackberry apps during meetings also applies to other government officials?
Elizabeth Swann

Benton Harbor, MI

#3365 Apr 22, 2011
Lyons residents wondering why there is plastic sheeting along the cyclone fence on the north end of the old McCook Metals/Reynolds site might want to ask former VOL Trustee liason for the Environmental Commission or the IEAP about the elevated levels of lead found in the soil along 47thStreet from 1st Ave to Custer and in soil on the southern portions of the 1st Ave Frontage, Warsaw, Cracow & Pulaski.

IEPA testing occurred after several days of "dustout" conditions during Centerpoint construction activities severely reduced visibilty on 47th and resulted in a complaint by former VOL President Petrucci.

Results of elevated lead levels - up to 270+ ppm - were never made public. Note the article stating that there is no safe level of exposure for children. One time silence was not golden, at least for those living there.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/ct-met-p...

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