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Chelmsford driver turns heads with one Smart car

There are 34 comments on the Lowell Sun story from May 10, 2008, titled Chelmsford driver turns heads with one Smart car. In it, Lowell Sun reports that:

Bruce Cumming is getting used to gawkers everywhere he goes. And name calling. Roller skate.

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Tony Toolbag

Glenmoore, PA

#21 May 28, 2008
Angry Libertarian.
I agree 110%
Sun Reader

Hudson, NH

#22 May 28, 2008
Angry Libertarian wrote:
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I used to do that too. Know what? After years of buying GM and Ford cars and having them all die at 90k miles, I pulled my head out of my a$$ and did some research, rather than relying on gut feelings, jingoistic patriotic BS and philistine pig ignorance. I ended up buying a Honda. It's still driving great at 120k!*And* it was assembled at a plant in the US.
Besides, in this globalized economy, even if there's an American brand name, it's most likely all or partially foreign produced.
But, cross your arms, stamp your feet, spot your GOD BLESS AMERICA mantra, clap louder, and shop at Wal Mart. It's what your corporate whore masters want.
Fantastic post, and every word of it true.
hammerhead

Lexington, MA

#23 May 28, 2008
Yeah and what about those toyota tacomas, the frames are breaking in half and rotting away!
toyota is silently buying back 800,000 of them!
wow what a truck!! it's my ford that plows the interstate so all those smart-cars can get to work, a 1999 ford truck
hammerhead

Lexington, MA

#24 May 28, 2008
i like the car owner who get all giddy and say " ASSEMBLED" yes from 99% non us made parts- just think of the thousand and thousands of jobs lost!
Sun Reader

Hudson, NH

#25 May 28, 2008
hammerhead wrote:
i like the car owner who get all giddy and say " ASSEMBLED" yes from 99% non us made parts- just think of the thousand and thousands of jobs lost!
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Jobs lost because the product was inferior. Dont just post part of the truth, post it all or its a lie.
Japanese cars are better than American cars, which is why they outsell American cars. Its not because everyone suddenly decided to screw over American car makers, its because American car makers have been screwing over the public for years.
hmmmmm

Lowell, MA

#26 May 28, 2008
Sun Reader wrote:
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Your tag is "I drive a real car" and your bragging about a Ford Focus? The Focus is one of the absolute worst cars ever built. Its such a piece of crap that most of the people who build them didnt take advantage of Ford's offer to provide them to its workers at a huge discount, opting instead to pay full price for their Toyotas and their Hondas. Broken ignition switches, wheel bearings that seize up at highway speeds, and crappy starters. Those are the legacy of Fords latest debacle. Imagine buying a new car and having the rear wheel bearing seize up on TWICE in the first year? There's are a couple of thousand Focus owners who know what thats like. There's even more Focus owners who know what its like to have to replace the ignition switches in their new cars, a 600 dollar repair that Ford doesnt even cover. And of course, the tow will be another 100.
lol
Hey, dont bag on your lemon here. I have had my focus for 7 years now, bought new for 15,800. No problems, just do the oil change and maintenance. Any car you buy is likely to have issues. BTW, fords workers took part in the xplan pricing, but on more prefferred vehicles of the day (think loaded F150 / Explorer vs loaded focus.
hmmmmm

Lowell, MA

#27 May 28, 2008
Sun Reader wrote:
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Jobs lost because the product was inferior. Dont just post part of the truth, post it all or its a lie.
Japanese cars are better than American cars, which is why they outsell American cars. Its not because everyone suddenly decided to screw over American car makers, its because American car makers have been screwing over the public for years.
Do your research better, and get your head out of your, well, you know where I am going. Globally, auto makers are about the same, with a few exceptions (US still rules full size trucks (Tundra is a joke that toyota played on itself, oops), toyota still has the camry) otherwise it is a tie (over about the last 5 years.)
hmmmmm

Lowell, MA

#28 May 28, 2008
One other thought, what will happen to an 8ft smart when it gets tboned by a 19.5ft Ram, because a smart cant accelerate out of its own way (13 seconds to 60, what do you do in an emergency?) And, yes, I have seen the "controlled" crash tests and results. I have also seen the Volvo ones, and inthe real world, weird things happen.....
I would take a civic or focus over a smart any day of the week. Besides, where do I put my kids, dog and how do I tow my camper with a smart????

Since: May 08

Hometown: Lowell, Ma

#29 May 29, 2008
I actually almost took one out on rt.3 the other morning! the dude came up the onramp and shot out into the middle lane doing 50 and if I reacted any slower we would be reading about a horrible accident :(

To small for highway riding and the mileage does not warrant the 15k pricetag. I would just purchase a Corolla or Civic. If they were 8-10k I would consider for city travel only.
Sun Reader

Hudson, NH

#30 May 29, 2008
hmmmmm wrote:
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Do your research better, and get your head out of your, well, you know where I am going. Globally, auto makers are about the same, with a few exceptions (US still rules full size trucks (Tundra is a joke that toyota played on itself, oops), toyota still has the camry) otherwise it is a tie (over about the last 5 years.)
My head is not up my asss, but yours obviously is.
You can buy a new Toyota and drive it for 10 years without a repair, there isnt an American car in history that would do that.
You can hang your hat on the Tundra example, but American vehicles have hundreds of examples like that, not just a few. Remember the Ford Fairmont? Every Chrysler product from the 80's? The Lincoln Versailles? What an absolute joke the Versialle was. A Granada with stickers, fake chrome GLUED on, and better seats for another 12 grand !! That example alone should have been enough to get the Ford Motor Co executives executed on the spot. What a complete INTENTIONAL rip off.
Where are the Japanese examples of intentional "mistakes"? What was the Japanese version of the Mercury Monarch, another intentional P.O.S. How about the all the Fords that rusted out so bad in the 70s and 80s that the Fords made Ford fix them?

Did you ever ride in a K-car? When was the last time you even saw one? How many full size Ford wagons are left? These cars fell apart so fast that they completely disappeared.
On the other hand, whats the percentage of Camrys that are still on the road? I think its 80. And I think that of all Nissan models sold since 1985, about 70 percent are still on the road.
How many Ford Areostar vans are left now? A dozen?

Please pal, pull YOUR head out of your asss and look around. Maybe they can fudge their numbers "globally" and tell us that American cars are keeping up, but they are getting their assses kicked here at home, and for good reason.
hmmmmm

Lowell, MA

#31 May 29, 2008
Sun Reader wrote:
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My head is not up my asss, but yours obviously is.
You can buy a new Toyota and drive it for 10 years without a repair, there isnt an American car in history that would do that.
You can hang your hat on the Tundra example, but American vehicles have hundreds of examples like that, not just a few. Remember the Ford Fairmont? Every Chrysler product from the 80's? The Lincoln Versailles? What an absolute joke the Versialle was. A Granada with stickers, fake chrome GLUED on, and better seats for another 12 grand !! That example alone should have been enough to get the Ford Motor Co executives executed on the spot. What a complete INTENTIONAL rip off.
Where are the Japanese examples of intentional "mistakes"? What was the Japanese version of the Mercury Monarch, another intentional P.O.S. How about the all the Fords that rusted out so bad in the 70s and 80s that the Fords made Ford fix them?
Did you ever ride in a K-car? When was the last time you even saw one? How many full size Ford wagons are left? These cars fell apart so fast that they completely disappeared.
On the other hand, whats the percentage of Camrys that are still on the road? I think its 80. And I think that of all Nissan models sold since 1985, about 70 percent are still on the road.
How many Ford Areostar vans are left now? A dozen?
Please pal, pull YOUR head out of your asss and look around. Maybe they can fudge their numbers "globally" and tell us that American cars are keeping up, but they are getting their assses kicked here at home, and for good reason.
Yes, I know these examples and many, many more. That is why the time table is listed. Over the past 5 years. Trying to do a recent example. Cars that have not been produced for x number of years, while they leave a bad taste, are no longer produced, because you are right, they sucked. Read the post, then reply, I had this covered.
Sun Reader

Hudson, NH

#32 May 29, 2008
hmmmmm wrote:
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Yes, I know these examples and many, many more. That is why the time table is listed. Over the past 5 years. Trying to do a recent example. Cars that have not been produced for x number of years, while they leave a bad taste, are no longer produced, because you are right, they sucked. Read the post, then reply, I had this covered.
Ford Focus' are still being made, so they count, and they suck.
The there is the Ford 500 that was discontinued almost immediately because they had nothing but problems.
Then you had the new Thunderbird that was plagued with issues and was discontinued.
And, lets not forget the Dodge/Plymouth Neon, a masterpiece of disgusting quality from the get go.
Ford Explorers have so many issues with their transmissions that there are entire websites devoted to it. Rear axle problem, tie rod problems. American car compnaies have been giving us the "our cars are better over the last 5 years " story for about 20 years now.
I remember the Ford Aerostar van was the first vehicle to be in the NADA used car guide that had ALL ZEROES across every category for resale value in just 6 years. Used car dealers didnt want them, Ford dealers didnt want them. And remember Fords advertising campaign for that gem? It was all about how Ford was "catching up" to Toyota and Honda, and how people didnt have to worry about their products anymore. Well, its 20 years later, and their STILL saying that. But, they havent really caught up yet. They are not even close.

Bought my Toyota brand new in 92, and I bought a brand new top of the line GMC conversion van the next year. I still use the Toyota to commute, but the van is long gone. And, it didnt go to another owner, it went to the junkyard. I paid 30 grand for it, and probably spent another 10 grand on repairs over 20 years. All to no avail. I have spent about 2 grand on the Toyota, and it still runs awesome.
No "hmmmm", all you have in your corner is the dishonest hype from the American car companies. All the real evidence, like maintenance histories and resale values tell the real tale. And it aint good for our guys, I can tell you.

“Thank a Veteran”

Since: Jan 08

You owe them your FREEDOM

#33 May 29, 2008
How smart is a overpriced under gas mileage car?
By the way my 97 Wrangler just hit 192,000 miles and the only I have had to replace besides Brakes/tuneups/oil changes was the clutch and I could drive over a Smart Car.
hmmmmm

Lowell, MA

#34 May 29, 2008
Sun Reader wrote:
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Ford Focus' are still being made, so they count, and they suck.
The there is the Ford 500 that was discontinued almost immediately because they had nothing but problems.
Then you had the new Thunderbird that was plagued with issues and was discontinued.
And, lets not forget the Dodge/Plymouth Neon, a masterpiece of disgusting quality from the get go.
Ford Explorers have so many issues with their transmissions that there are entire websites devoted to it. Rear axle problem, tie rod problems. American car compnaies have been giving us the "our cars are better over the last 5 years " story for about 20 years now.
I remember the Ford Aerostar van was the first vehicle to be in the NADA used car guide that had ALL ZEROES across every category for resale value in just 6 years. Used car dealers didnt want them, Ford dealers didnt want them. And remember Fords advertising campaign for that gem? It was all about how Ford was "catching up" to Toyota and Honda, and how people didnt have to worry about their products anymore. Well, its 20 years later, and their STILL saying that. But, they havent really caught up yet. They are not even close.
Bought my Toyota brand new in 92, and I bought a brand new top of the line GMC conversion van the next year. I still use the Toyota to commute, but the van is long gone. And, it didnt go to another owner, it went to the junkyard. I paid 30 grand for it, and probably spent another 10 grand on repairs over 20 years. All to no avail. I have spent about 2 grand on the Toyota, and it still runs awesome.
No "hmmmm", all you have in your corner is the dishonest hype from the American car companies. All the real evidence, like maintenance histories and resale values tell the real tale. And it aint good for our guys, I can tell you.
Ford Focus still one of the top selling small cars. Ford 500 was rebadged the Taurus (biggest issue was being under powered. The Neon was a top seller and a fan favorite due to performance.
The Aerostar has not been made in years (and yes, it did suck) Ford and Toyota are equal in quality (As per JD Powers) and that includes the Focus.

Comparing a conversion van (read as a good box chopped and refitted by a contracted company) to a sedan is, well, like trying to compare a Smart car and a semi truck, well, umm, they have wheels...

Past history (25+ years) does not speak well for US auto companies, however inthe last 10 years, they are all about equal. Yes, equal. And Toyota, Honda did not go down, they forced everyone else up. Be fair, and do some recent research. I can find you bad news and lemons on almost any vehicle out there, as there are always bad experiences (Mercedes is amongst the worst right now) As I know several Corolla owners that have dumped them because they are too cheap and are not what they once where.(dont buy any 15k car and expect top of the line quality)

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