Independent

Paducah, KY

#45 Jan 19, 2013
Annoying Keyboard Tapper wrote:
http://www.reagancoalition.com /articles/2013/20130116001-def y-ocare.html
You know Reagan was in favor of limiting what weapons an individual could own, don't you?
Anon

Florence, KY

#46 Jan 20, 2013
Independent wrote:
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You know Reagan was in favor of limiting what weapons an individual could own, don't you?
He could also predict the future. He somehow started the Lifeline "Obamaphone" program 25 years years before the Kenyan took office.
Oldman

Murray, KY

#47 Jan 21, 2013
Independent wrote:
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The title should be "Classroom Communism." Those who cannot tell the difference should study up before posting.(while we are copy/pasting)
The articles you are labeling as "communism" or "socialism" is the exact opposite of socialism and communism. It is pointing out what happens under them. You take from those that produce and give to them that don't. You are misrepersenting or mis-reading these articles.
Independent

Owensboro, KY

#48 Jan 21, 2013
Oldman wrote:
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The articles you are labeling as "communism" or "socialism" is the exact opposite of socialism and communism. It is pointing out what happens under them. You take from those that produce and give to them that don't. You are misrepersenting or mis-reading these articles.
Socialism is the taking of some resources (taxes) from its members and pooling those resources to use for the common good of all (roads, bridges, police, regulating agencies, military, etc.). Communism is when government runs everything and owns everything. Communism has never worked for long. When done well, socialism works very well, but you need government officials who actually care about the citizens, rather than catering to those who would bribe them to vote in the other direction.
Bilbo

Murray, KY

#49 Jan 22, 2013
Independent wrote:
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Socialism is the taking of some resources (taxes) from its members and pooling those resources to use for the common good of all (roads, bridges, police, regulating agencies, military, etc.). Communism is when government runs everything and owns everything. Communism has never worked for long. When done well, socialism works very well, but you need government officials who actually care about the citizens, rather than catering to those who would bribe them to vote in the other direction.
Worked real well for Greece, Spain, France, to name a few. What you post is partial true, however when you have to many takers and not enough producers, which always seems to happen, there with in
lies the problem. Please be so good as to post one country that has suceeded under scialism.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#50 Jan 22, 2013
Bilbo wrote:
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Worked real well for Greece, Spain, France, to name a few. What you post is partial true, however when you have to many takers and not enough producers, which always seems to happen, there with in
lies the problem. Please be so good as to post one country that has suceeded under scialism.
France? Why France? France has 1/3 the percentage of people living below the poverty line that the US has. France has less public debt as a percentage of GDP than the US. France has the same credit rating as the US.

The French probably don't think they are the failure that you do.
Bonnie

Murray, KY

#51 Jan 22, 2013
I don't really care about other countries. I do care that my husband and I both work to make a living and between the increase in ss ,health care, medicare and payroll tax my family of 4 will have to live on less. When will it stop? The company I used to work for went overseas to avoid taxes and regulations that were put on them by our gov. and the one I work for now is struggling. OUR LEADER CAN"T LEAD
Independent

Owensboro, KY

#52 Jan 22, 2013
Bonnie wrote:
I don't really care about other countries. I do care that my husband and I both work to make a living and between the increase in ss ,health care, medicare and payroll tax my family of 4 will have to live on less. When will it stop? The company I used to work for went overseas to avoid taxes and regulations that were put on them by our gov. and the one I work for now is struggling. OUR LEADER CAN"T LEAD
The company you used to work for probably moved to take advantage of cheap labor. Corporate taxes are at an all time low. Many of them pay none at all and some of them pay none and get subsidies from the government. Subsidies might make some sense for industries who are doing something special for the country, but General Electric? Personal taxes for your income bracket are at an modern all-time lows. The temporary reduction in social security taxes were meant as a stimulus for lower income people. Rates are now back to normal.

I appreciate the fact that you are struggling and I agree that we have a lot of people in Washington who are not leading. I am no fan of Obama, but considering the opposition and the mess he inherited, he's doing OK with the nations finances, most of which he has no control over. The military eats up well over $2000 per capita, meaning about $9000 for your family of four. That will never go down until enough people like you demand it. Mitch McConnell will not be interested in hearing from you, and Obama probably won't either. He doesn't dare change that outflow.

Since: Nov 12

Murray, KY

#53 Jan 23, 2013

Since: Oct 09

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#54 Jan 23, 2013
Annoying Keyboard Tapper wrote:
http://www.reagancoalition.com /articles/2013/20130122001-tx- dem-o.html
http://www.theonion.com/articles/62yearold-wi...

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#55 Jan 23, 2013
Annoying Keyboard Tapper wrote:
http://www.reagancoalition.com /articles/2013/20130116001-def y-ocare.html
http://www.theonion.com/articles/obama-help-u...
Independent

Owensboro, KY

#56 Jan 24, 2013
Anonymous Keyboard Tapper wrote:
I knew it all along! It's time that the truth came out.
Bonnie

Murray, KY

#57 Jan 24, 2013
I work for 11.26 an hr. You can cite and quote any so called economy experts you want but it still don't change the fact that there is considerably more taken out of my wages. I don't have any stocks, bonds, IRAs, nor do I expect to inherit anything. I have 1 child my wife also works to help make ends meet. I was lead to belive that taxs would not go up on people in my income bracket, and yes I know it's payroll tax. So I guess it's fine for it to go up on folks that can least afford it. I also know I'll probably get most of it back at the end of the year, but when you need it now to pay your bills that means little. The so called president lied!

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#58 Jan 24, 2013
Bonnie wrote:
I work for 11.26 an hr. You can cite and quote any so called economy experts you want but it still don't change the fact that there is considerably more taken out of my wages. I don't have any stocks, bonds, IRAs, nor do I expect to inherit anything.
Nine dollars a week (assuming you work 40 hours) is "considerable"? How much do you pay for your cell phone? Cable TV?

So open yourself an IRA. It's not hard, you don't even have to get up off your seat, you can just do it online. Open a traditional IRA and you can get a tax break now. Open a Roth IRA and you won't owe taxes on it when you retire.
Bonnie wrote:
I have 1 child my wife also works to help make ends meet. I was lead to believe that taxes would not go up on people in my income bracket, and yes I know it's payroll tax.
If you were led to believe the income tax and payroll tax is the same thing, then you certainly were deceived by whoever did that.

It was the end of a payroll tax break, you should have known not to rely on it. Do you complain at the store when things are no longer on sale? You got a break on paying social security for a year or two because the economy was bad and now you are mad why? You already said you don't have an IRA, savings or inheritance, how do you expect to avoid poverty in your old age if you don't pay into Social Security now?
Bonnie wrote:
So I guess it's fine for it to go up on folks that can least afford it.
You are probably right about that, but you aren't going to get much sympathy from those who have to pay in the 25, 28, 33, 35, & 39.6% range on their income tax rates and don't get the Earned Income Credit.
Bonnie wrote:
I also know I'll probably get most of it back at the end of the year, but when you need it now to pay your bills that means little. The so called president lied!
If your going to get "most of it back", adjust your withholding and get more of it back now. Unless you are a fan of loaning the government money interest free. Personally, I'd rather pay at the end of the year than do that.
Independent

Owensboro, KY

#59 Jan 24, 2013
Anonymous Keyboard Tapper wrote:
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Nine dollars a week (assuming you work 40 hours) is "considerable"? How much do you pay for your cell phone? Cable TV?
So open yourself an IRA. It's not hard, you don't even have to get up off your seat, you can just do it online. Open a traditional IRA and you can get a tax break now. Open a Roth IRA and you won't owe taxes on it when you retire.
<quoted text>
If you were led to believe the income tax and payroll tax is the same thing, then you certainly were deceived by whoever did that.
It was the end of a payroll tax break, you should have known not to rely on it. Do you complain at the store when things are no longer on sale? You got a break on paying social security for a year or two because the economy was bad and now you are mad why? You already said you don't have an IRA, savings or inheritance, how do you expect to avoid poverty in your old age if you don't pay into Social Security now?
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You are probably right about that, but you aren't going to get much sympathy from those who have to pay in the 25, 28, 33, 35, & 39.6% range on their income tax rates and don't get the Earned Income Credit.
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If your going to get "most of it back", adjust your withholding and get more of it back now. Unless you are a fan of loaning the government money interest free. Personally, I'd rather pay at the end of the year than do that.
That's more than I would have replied, but I agree.

Since: Nov 12

United States

#60 Jan 24, 2013

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#61 Jan 25, 2013
Annoying Keyboard Tapper wrote:
http://www.theblaze.com/storie s/2013/01/24/woman-arrested-wh ile-refusing-smart-meter-insta llation-on-her-property-tells- us-her-story/
Aaah, are the boogie-liberals going to install wun of vose scary wittle wireless electric meters on wittle snookums house. It's alright you crazy paranoid wittle thing. It won't hurt chu no matter what that crazy, magic underwear wearing psycho says.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/uhoh-photo-o...
sawyer

Clifty, KY

#62 Jan 25, 2013
And thalidomide doesn't cause birth defects---or so said the powers that were at the time. All those women birthing babies without limbs were just crazy.
The US government doesn't do experiments on the population---unless the people they want to experiment on are in prison, or in school, or....
Come on, get real or better still---get an education. People who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. This country has a long history of using citizens like lab rats with absolutely no regard for the long term effects.

Since: Oct 09

Location hidden

#63 Jan 25, 2013
sawyer wrote:
And thalidomide doesn't cause birth defects---or so said the powers that were at the time. All those women birthing babies without limbs were just crazy.
The US government doesn't do experiments on the population---unless the people they want to experiment on are in prison, or in school, or....
Come on, get real or better still---get an education. People who do not know history are doomed to repeat it. This country has a long history of using citizens like lab rats with absolutely no regard for the long term effects.
So you are saying that this drive to install wireless electric meters is not driven by reducing the labor costs and reducing human error but is actually a secret government experiment on unknowing citizens for some nefarious unnamed purpose widely coordinated and involving the secret cooperation and complacency of various electric providers across the nation?

Sure. That is much more likely for sure. Yep, this is just like the Tuskegee syphilis experiments in the early 20th century or MK-ULTRA in the 60s. Just like it.

Since: Nov 12

Murray, KY

#64 Jan 25, 2013
Anonymous Keyboard Tapper wrote:
<quoted text>
Aaah, are the boogie-liberals going to install wun of vose scary wittle wireless electric meters on wittle snookums house. It's alright you crazy paranoid wittle thing. It won't hurt chu no matter what that crazy, magic underwear wearing psycho says.
http://www.theonion.com/articles/uhoh-photo-o...
Wait! I thought I was the annoying one?

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