Warner Explains Change of Mind on Same-Sex Marriage

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Wednesday night at the Greater Augusta Regional Chamber of Commerce awards ceremony and fundraiser, he explained why his position has changed.
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huck

Charlottesville, VA

#21 Mar 28, 2013
kcuh wrote:
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huck cannot answer right now-- he has a hondacivic in his throat!!
i know you want to join in the fun libtard
seems like that's all you can think about
STAND FAST

Waynesboro, VA

#22 Mar 28, 2013
....any way the wind blooooooows!

This clown has flipped and flopped on so many issues, we need to start mailing him waffles.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#23 Mar 28, 2013
not a libtard wrote:
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just for the record --- you do have a rainbow flag in your closet dont you?
just for the record!!
just for the record, i find homosexual acts repulsive, however unlike you, i don't hold it against them since they aren't hurting me
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you should try live and let live, it might lower your blood pressure
hondacivic

Charlottesville, VA

#24 Mar 28, 2013
kcuh wrote:
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huck cannot answer right now-- he has a hondacivic in his throat!!
Your name is perfect since you like to think backwards!!
central va marine

Moneta, VA

#25 Mar 28, 2013
Senator, good choice. Those of us who evolved on women's rights to vote, own land, get a mortgage in their name, buy a car without their father's or husband's permission. Those of us who have evolved on race issues after having been raised in a segregated society. Now we are endorsing and applauding same sex marriage.

I use the term "evolve", because if I use the term "maturing and becoming more tolerant", it reflects on others who are stuck in their own hate.

more to come,
Edwin

Lexington, VA

#26 Mar 28, 2013
Warner "changed his mind" for votes. It's that simple. He continues to search for his backbone.
Boodreau

Waynesboro, VA

#27 Mar 28, 2013
huck wrote:
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just for the record, i find homosexual acts repulsive, however unlike you, i don't hold it against them since they aren't hurting me
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you should try live and let live, it might lower your blood pressure
Huck I don't always agree with you but I always respect your right to have your opinion. I hope to attack your position not your person when we disagree. Have a good day. I to do not agree with homosexuality but I am not the morality police. Live and let live is a point we agree on. Now do we make them get photo ids (lmao had to throw that in)
CT in VA

Charleston, WV

#28 Mar 28, 2013
This article confuses me greatly. I was AT that dinner last night and not ONCE in his speech did he mention or even hint at his position on marriage, same-sex or otherwise. This article makes it sound like that's all he talked about. He actually gave a pretty decent speech on Dems and Repubs working together to make real change and being Americans first and foremost.
Boodreau

Waynesboro, VA

#29 Mar 28, 2013
CT in VA wrote:
This article confuses me greatly. I was AT that dinner last night and not ONCE in his speech did he mention or even hint at his position on marriage, same-sex or otherwise. This article makes it sound like that's all he talked about. He actually gave a pretty decent speech on Dems and Repubs working together to make real change and being Americans first and foremost.
They all make that canned speech about working together to make America first. THEN they go back to business as usual and screw America
Just amused

Charlottesville, VA

#30 Mar 28, 2013
too bad ignorance , bigotry and racism are not painful to those who practice these views, and the hatespeech and ignorance expressed in Central Virginia is appalling, Wow, are you all really this devoid of humanity? What I see here is not opinion or belief, it is just pure ignorance, bigotry and racism...
Boodreau

Waynesboro, VA

#31 Mar 28, 2013
central va marine wrote:
Senator, good choice. Those of us who evolved on women's rights to vote, own land, get a mortgage in their name, buy a car without their father's or husband's permission. Those of us who have evolved on race issues after having been raised in a segregated society. Now we are endorsing and applauding same sex marriage.
I use the term "evolve", because if I use the term "maturing and becoming more tolerant", it reflects on others who are stuck in their own hate.
more to come,
Like most middle age people I was brought up to believe homosexuality was wrong. It is not the lifestyle I choose BUT as I have grown older and interacted with members of the gay community my view has evolved and I judge people on their actions rather than their sexual preference. I have stated in other post that I feel this is a civil rights issue. Gay people being married does not infringe on my life, liberty or pursuit of happiness. Besides, lol, divorce lawyers can always use the extra business
Hmmmmm

Harrisonburg, VA

#32 Mar 28, 2013
On the subject of things like "flip-flops" and changing positions for votes and all of that stuff. Obviously I get the critique. Its a common one for all sorts of reasons, many of which are good ones.

But I'd like to open the alternative interpretation for responses/reactions to it. This is a representative system where the charge of politicians is to represent the will of the people. So if someone can get more votes with position X, isn't that rightfully the position the politician should take? It would indicate that a majority actually takes that position.

In other words, if Warner had a position that maybe represented his own preferences / take as a citizen (and some of his constituents), but then realized that more citizens disagreed with him than agreed, wouldn't he be worthy of praise as someone who actually changed to represent the will of his constituents? So one might say that admitting you are wrong to represent your constituents better is actually a show of good judgment and character.

As I say, I can see it either way, so I'm just opening that thought for discussion.
Boodreau

Waynesboro, VA

#33 Mar 28, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
On the subject of things like "flip-flops" and changing positions for votes and all of that stuff. Obviously I get the critique. Its a common one for all sorts of reasons, many of which are good ones.
But I'd like to open the alternative interpretation for responses/reactions to it. This is a representative system where the charge of politicians is to represent the will of the people. So if someone can get more votes with position X, isn't that rightfully the position the politician should take? It would indicate that a majority actually takes that position.
In other words, if Warner had a position that maybe represented his own preferences / take as a citizen (and some of his constituents), but then realized that more citizens disagreed with him than agreed, wouldn't he be worthy of praise as someone who actually changed to represent the will of his constituents? So one might say that admitting you are wrong to represent your constituents better is actually a show of good judgment and character.
As I say, I can see it either way, so I'm just opening that thought for discussion.
I like the concept of a politician representing the will of the people.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#34 Mar 28, 2013
Hmmmmm wrote:
As I say, I can see it either way, so I'm just opening that thought for discussion.
a reverse case in point
reid and assault weapons
voters swaying his otherwise opposite opinion
US of Reckless A

Charlottesville, VA

#35 Mar 28, 2013
Morality does not evolve. Government wants to replace moral 'norms' only to the extent that it benefits the government; i.e., control over you, and money back to them.
Beware of leaders who bend.
Ibattp

Charlottesville, VA

#36 Mar 28, 2013
The reason for the flip flop is shown at
http://www.newsplex.com/home/headlines/US-Sen...

Obama has shown his hand on this matter so Warner has to jump on that band wagon to be a good little democrat

NBC 29 has not reported this yet.
French Dip

Charlottesville, VA

#37 Mar 29, 2013
He will be coming up for re-election SO what ever is expedient to help his campaign he will do. You can't trust a politian at what they say. Just look at Obama, the biggest liar ever.
huck

Charlottesville, VA

#38 Mar 30, 2013
French Dip wrote:
He will be coming up for re-election SO what ever is expedient to help his campaign he will do. You can't trust a politian at what they say. Just look at Obama, the biggest liar ever.
What about that wmd thing? Cost a few lives and $4 trillion of debt.

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